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05-16-08, 05:33 PM
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Aftermarket air intake filter system? folks who have one please enter....
i was satisfied with the magnaflow exhaust saving drastically on fuel costs... i was researching and found weapon r has 2 products on the market one is a dragon intake the other is sw intake system, they said just by slapping one of these on can drastically improve gas mileage, and the goody bonus of more torque and hp, now i was wondering ifi slap one of these on will my muffler also change sound or get louder because all the good free flow air coming? whats difference from dragon intake vs. sw intake any folks got pics of there aftermarket intake, i figure why not save more fuel by adding another thing? but want advise from folks who own an after market one, supposably weapn r says the cotton filters don't clean as good as foam filters because the pores are more in foam plus less restriction on flow.... i think weapon r was only aftermarket besides a k&n filter dropin? i think i might buy one? i think this would be another good investment in saving gas and it will pay itself back and somemore, fuel cost are fluctuating and i am out looking for products to maintain fuel costs and enjoy my ride more, someone on forum had a product i think it was tunnedrx300 but it was a product you put on your battery and there was a benifit i can't remember but if you remember let me know and pics and where to research on product i might consider? thanks
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05-16-08, 08:39 PM
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You're thinking of the Sun Hypervoltage as far as something going on top of the battery. I love that device, but would favor getting an Optima or something like a lightweight Braille battery before I would go for the Hypervoltage.
I don't like the Dragon intake from weapon-r (I had it). The secret weapon intake is a better option, but I can't remember offhand if it ever got CARB approval (since you are in California).
I don't like the Dragon intake from weapon-r (I had it). The secret weapon intake is a better option, but I can't remember offhand if it ever got CARB approval (since you are in California).
05-16-08, 08:57 PM
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You're thinking of the Sun Hypervoltage as far as something going on top of the battery. I love that device, but would favor getting an Optima or something like a lightweight Braille battery before I would go for the Hypervoltage.
I don't like the Dragon intake from weapon-r (I had it). The secret weapon intake is a better option, but I can't remember offhand if it ever got CARB approval (since you are in California).
I don't like the Dragon intake from weapon-r (I had it). The secret weapon intake is a better option, but I can't remember offhand if it ever got CARB approval (since you are in California).
what should i expct better gas mileage louder muffs and sounds and different tones, yeah the sun hyper voltage product did you notice anything with it? thanks lexmex oh also did the sw intake have two tubes like they advertised have you used the ram kit it comes with for cold air kinda excited can't wait.... also what does optima battery do vs hyper volts thanks
05-17-08, 06:49 AM
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There's not much as far as aftermarket intakes for the RX300. There is at least one for the Solara, but very expensive. I still think for what is out there for the $$$, the SW intake is the best of the lot. Only issue I have with it is that it should be covered by a heat shield (take a look at page 6 of my homepage below on what I have done) and really should have an extension for ram air from the lower part of the vehicle (of course as you noticed weapon-r sells such a kit, but I am not a huge fan because it uses some baffles, but still I am glad they considered the idea). You might be able to make your own with PVC, but again, should any people with red/blue lights pop your hood, you might have a dickens of a time...at least in California.
Let's just say this on the Optima versus hypervoltage, Optima is cheaper than getting the full fledged hypervoltage. Both are great, but getting the 34/78 Red Top is the real trick (I have experimented with my cousin's Golf on this).
What is noticeable about the hypervoltage is that the low end torque when you take off from a dead stop is a bit more pronounced not as much lag.
For the Optima as far as performance, I noticed a bit better pickup on the high end (less power loss under acceleration and especially if you are using things like AC, radio and even headlights). I have done it all on the track and seen all the little quirks and came to the conclusion the high end battery is what you want first. These batteries here, http://www.brailleauto.com are also very nice, but more expensive but extremely lightweight. My buddy Michael who has a Z06 Vette went down to Sarasota and picked one of these up and immediately noticed the difference (his battery goes in the rear of the vehicle).
Thus for me, the high end battery would go first and then the hypervoltage followed by the hyperground. Everything eeks out a gain, but keep in mind this coming from the brain of someone who does like to eek out every last gain and will go to great lengths to do it.
Let's just say this on the Optima versus hypervoltage, Optima is cheaper than getting the full fledged hypervoltage. Both are great, but getting the 34/78 Red Top is the real trick (I have experimented with my cousin's Golf on this).
What is noticeable about the hypervoltage is that the low end torque when you take off from a dead stop is a bit more pronounced not as much lag.
For the Optima as far as performance, I noticed a bit better pickup on the high end (less power loss under acceleration and especially if you are using things like AC, radio and even headlights). I have done it all on the track and seen all the little quirks and came to the conclusion the high end battery is what you want first. These batteries here, http://www.brailleauto.com are also very nice, but more expensive but extremely lightweight. My buddy Michael who has a Z06 Vette went down to Sarasota and picked one of these up and immediately noticed the difference (his battery goes in the rear of the vehicle).
Thus for me, the high end battery would go first and then the hypervoltage followed by the hyperground. Everything eeks out a gain, but keep in mind this coming from the brain of someone who does like to eek out every last gain and will go to great lengths to do it.
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There's not much as far as aftermarket intakes for the RX300. There is at least one for the Solara, but very expensive. I still think for what is out there for the $$$, the SW intake is the best of the lot. Only issue I have with it is that it should be covered by a heat shield (take a look at page 6 of my homepage below on what I have done) and really should have an extension for ram air from the lower part of the vehicle (of course as you noticed weapon-r sells such a kit, but I am not a huge fan because it uses some baffles, but still I am glad they considered the idea). You might be able to make your own with PVC, but again, should any people with red/blue lights pop your hood, you might have a dickens of a time...at least in California.
Let's just say this on the Optima versus hypervoltage, Optima is cheaper than getting the full fledged hypervoltage. Both are great, but getting the 34/78 Red Top is the real trick (I have experimented with my cousin's Golf on this).
What is noticeable about the hypervoltage is that the low end torque when you take off from a dead stop is a bit more pronounced not as much lag.
For the Optima as far as performance, I noticed a bit better pickup on the high end (less power loss under acceleration and especially if you are using things like AC, radio and even headlights). I have done it all on the track and seen all the little quirks and came to the conclusion the high end battery is what you want first. These batteries here, http://www.brailleauto.com are also very nice, but more expensive but extremely lightweight. My buddy Michael who has a Z06 Vette went down to Sarasota and picked one of these up and immediately noticed the difference (his battery goes in the rear of the vehicle).
Thus for me, the high end battery would go first and then the hypervoltage followed by the hyperground. Everything eeks out a gain, but keep in mind this coming from the brain of someone who does like to eek out every last gain and will go to great lengths to do it.
Let's just say this on the Optima versus hypervoltage, Optima is cheaper than getting the full fledged hypervoltage. Both are great, but getting the 34/78 Red Top is the real trick (I have experimented with my cousin's Golf on this).
What is noticeable about the hypervoltage is that the low end torque when you take off from a dead stop is a bit more pronounced not as much lag.
For the Optima as far as performance, I noticed a bit better pickup on the high end (less power loss under acceleration and especially if you are using things like AC, radio and even headlights). I have done it all on the track and seen all the little quirks and came to the conclusion the high end battery is what you want first. These batteries here, http://www.brailleauto.com are also very nice, but more expensive but extremely lightweight. My buddy Michael who has a Z06 Vette went down to Sarasota and picked one of these up and immediately noticed the difference (his battery goes in the rear of the vehicle).
Thus for me, the high end battery would go first and then the hypervoltage followed by the hyperground. Everything eeks out a gain, but keep in mind this coming from the brain of someone who does like to eek out every last gain and will go to great lengths to do it.
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05-17-08, 01:04 PM
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As far as the braille products, any should fit, as my friend had the largest of the batteries and it could easily fit in our RX, but might need some mounts to make them work. I had have to check with them the next time I go by their place, they are not too far from the Lexus dealer in Sarasota. I was considering either the 11 or 15 pound version for my RX300 in the near future.
Hold off on hypervoltage.
Forget the dragon intake and its filter. Only use I found of the dragon intake is as a placeholder for my current MAF and modifications, that much I will give it and as far as the filter my cousin uses it on his Golf for car shows where it gets him some points, because weapon-r doesn't have a distributor south of the border. The secret weapon intake is the better one to get.
No baffles, only good for sound reduction and not much else. However, a lot of the material you could make a ram air intake out of is available at an AutoZone or other auto parts store.
You ideally need a heat shield, because the hot air of the engine will negate short ram air gains.
I have been messing around with my current silver y-pipe intake in some different formations to try to get the ideal acceleration (I am close) for sea level, but it takes some experimentation.
Hold off on hypervoltage.
Forget the dragon intake and its filter. Only use I found of the dragon intake is as a placeholder for my current MAF and modifications, that much I will give it and as far as the filter my cousin uses it on his Golf for car shows where it gets him some points, because weapon-r doesn't have a distributor south of the border. The secret weapon intake is the better one to get.
No baffles, only good for sound reduction and not much else. However, a lot of the material you could make a ram air intake out of is available at an AutoZone or other auto parts store.
You ideally need a heat shield, because the hot air of the engine will negate short ram air gains.
I have been messing around with my current silver y-pipe intake in some different formations to try to get the ideal acceleration (I am close) for sea level, but it takes some experimentation.
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As far as the braille products, any should fit, as my friend had the largest of the batteries and it could easily fit in our RX, but might need some mounts to make them work. I had have to check with them the next time I go by their place, they are not too far from the Lexus dealer in Sarasota. I was considering either the 11 or 15 pound version for my RX300 in the near future.
Hold off on hypervoltage.
Forget the dragon intake and its filter. Only use I found of the dragon intake is as a placeholder for my current MAF and modifications, that much I will give it and as far as the filter my cousin uses it on his Golf for car shows where it gets him some points, because weapon-r doesn't have a distributor south of the border. The secret weapon intake is the better one to get.
No baffles, only good for sound reduction and not much else. However, a lot of the material you could make a ram air intake out of is available at an AutoZone or other auto parts store.
You ideally need a heat shield, because the hot air of the engine will negate short ram air gains.
I have been messing around with my current silver y-pipe intake in some different formations to try to get the ideal acceleration (I am close) for sea level, but it takes some experimentation.
Hold off on hypervoltage.
Forget the dragon intake and its filter. Only use I found of the dragon intake is as a placeholder for my current MAF and modifications, that much I will give it and as far as the filter my cousin uses it on his Golf for car shows where it gets him some points, because weapon-r doesn't have a distributor south of the border. The secret weapon intake is the better one to get.
No baffles, only good for sound reduction and not much else. However, a lot of the material you could make a ram air intake out of is available at an AutoZone or other auto parts store.
You ideally need a heat shield, because the hot air of the engine will negate short ram air gains.
I have been messing around with my current silver y-pipe intake in some different formations to try to get the ideal acceleration (I am close) for sea level, but it takes some experimentation.
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05-18-08, 06:21 AM
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Lexus dealer in Sarasota seemed like a good group there, knew their stuff when I popped off some questions.
I am not sure if ram air will fit down all the way to the front. Saw no need to buy it for my dragon intake at the time, since PVC was readily available back in Mexico (early 2005).
Now, in addition, you will have to remove and air resonator that goes behind the bumper (look in the air hole on the driver's side) and you will see what I mean and also a plastic piece that goes under the fusebox. You could get some string and measure it out and check with weapon-r if it would be long enough.
I am not sure if ram air will fit down all the way to the front. Saw no need to buy it for my dragon intake at the time, since PVC was readily available back in Mexico (early 2005).
Now, in addition, you will have to remove and air resonator that goes behind the bumper (look in the air hole on the driver's side) and you will see what I mean and also a plastic piece that goes under the fusebox. You could get some string and measure it out and check with weapon-r if it would be long enough.
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Lexus dealer in Sarasota seemed like a good group there, knew their stuff when I popped off some questions.
I am not sure if ram air will fit down all the way to the front. Saw no need to buy it for my dragon intake at the time, since PVC was readily available back in Mexico (early 2005).
Now, in addition, you will have to remove and air resonator that goes behind the bumper (look in the air hole on the driver's side) and you will see what I mean and also a plastic piece that goes under the fusebox. You could get some string and measure it out and check with weapon-r if it would be long enough.
I am not sure if ram air will fit down all the way to the front. Saw no need to buy it for my dragon intake at the time, since PVC was readily available back in Mexico (early 2005).
Now, in addition, you will have to remove and air resonator that goes behind the bumper (look in the air hole on the driver's side) and you will see what I mean and also a plastic piece that goes under the fusebox. You could get some string and measure it out and check with weapon-r if it would be long enough.
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what does that resonator do? quiet the intake? also for wr do the filter have to be oiled? or wash and dry then slap on? is it true that these foam wr filters filter dirt better and breath better because more pores than cotton filters?
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05-19-08, 06:03 AM
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That's exactly what does the resonator does, keep it quiet. The only thing you have to do with the WR filter is wash it. I am going to say this on the subject of which is better wr or something like a K&N...it depends. I have had guys who I have known over the years who have dynoed with K&N and WR, and over some vehicles one works just slightly better and for others, it is the other.
My cousin had my old Dragon Intake and hated it for performance so I got him a cone K&N for his Golf VR6. However, a few other guys at my track managed to get their hands on some Weapon-Rs (they should have a distributor in Mexico in case their listening) and liked those over the K&Ns.
Now, you remember I tried a V2 filter from them just before I left Mexico, but that WR filter really didn't do much for me. I even tried it here in Florida and it wasn't bad, but just not the same kind of pep that no filter had. I haven't had the chance to test a cone K&N (don't see any need to blow money on it either), but as I said some guys liked one and some guys liked the other. SW intake is a better design than the V2 or the Dragon intake.
My cousin had my old Dragon Intake and hated it for performance so I got him a cone K&N for his Golf VR6. However, a few other guys at my track managed to get their hands on some Weapon-Rs (they should have a distributor in Mexico in case their listening) and liked those over the K&Ns.
Now, you remember I tried a V2 filter from them just before I left Mexico, but that WR filter really didn't do much for me. I even tried it here in Florida and it wasn't bad, but just not the same kind of pep that no filter had. I haven't had the chance to test a cone K&N (don't see any need to blow money on it either), but as I said some guys liked one and some guys liked the other. SW intake is a better design than the V2 or the Dragon intake.
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That's exactly what does the resonator does, keep it quiet. The only thing you have to do with the WR filter is wash it. I am going to say this on the subject of which is better wr or something like a K&N...it depends. I have had guys who I have known over the years who have dynoed with K&N and WR, and over some vehicles one works just slightly better and for others, it is the other.
My cousin had my old Dragon Intake and hated it for performance so I got him a cone K&N for his Golf VR6. However, a few other guys at my track managed to get their hands on some Weapon-Rs (they should have a distributor in Mexico in case their listening) and liked those over the K&Ns.
Now, you remember I tried a V2 filter from them just before I left Mexico, but that WR filter really didn't do much for me. I even tried it here in Florida and it wasn't bad, but just not the same kind of pep that no filter had. I haven't had the chance to test a cone K&N (don't see any need to blow money on it either), but as I said some guys liked one and some guys liked the other. SW intake is a better design than the V2 or the Dragon intake.
My cousin had my old Dragon Intake and hated it for performance so I got him a cone K&N for his Golf VR6. However, a few other guys at my track managed to get their hands on some Weapon-Rs (they should have a distributor in Mexico in case their listening) and liked those over the K&Ns.
Now, you remember I tried a V2 filter from them just before I left Mexico, but that WR filter really didn't do much for me. I even tried it here in Florida and it wasn't bad, but just not the same kind of pep that no filter had. I haven't had the chance to test a cone K&N (don't see any need to blow money on it either), but as I said some guys liked one and some guys liked the other. SW intake is a better design than the V2 or the Dragon intake.