View Poll Results: What do you think of the LSS+
Freeeaking Awesome!!
13
92.86%
Why Toyota Why??
1
7.14%
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Positives and Negatives of the Lexus Safety System +
03-30-16, 10:40 AM
#16
What part of LKA is still working after hitting the off button on the steering wheel. My info panel it is disabled so I think pushing the button turn it off as it also disables the LKA on the HUD.
03-30-16, 11:09 AM
#17
Last edited by kenforum; 03-30-16 at 11:13 AM.
03-30-16, 12:37 PM
#18
Love the $635 package price!!! Should get most if not all back at resale time. Love everything so far, will comment more as I learn more about each feature.
LEXUS SAFETY SYSTEM+
Pre-Collision System (PCS)* with Pedestrian Detection,* All-Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Control,* Lane Keep Assist,* Lane Departure Alert* with Steering Assist,* and intelligent high-beam headlamps.*
$635*
LEXUS SAFETY SYSTEM+
Pre-Collision System (PCS)* with Pedestrian Detection,* All-Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Control,* Lane Keep Assist,* Lane Departure Alert* with Steering Assist,* and intelligent high-beam headlamps.*
$635*
03-30-16, 04:49 PM
#19
Mine was $1050, but included Adaptive Front Lighting System Headlamps. I did not get the luxury package. See attached photo.
03-31-16, 07:59 AM
#20
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Thread Starter
Not sure about the other models, but the hybrid does not require the luxury package to get various LSS+.
Mine was $1050, but included Adaptive Front Lighting System Headlamps. I did not get the luxury package. See attached photo.
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Mine was $1050, but included Adaptive Front Lighting System Headlamps. I did not get the luxury package. See attached photo.
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03-31-16, 08:46 AM
#22
5. LKA in the Infiniti beeps if you hit the lines accurately. It resists crossing the line by opposite wheel braking. This is not as overriding as the steering assist provided by the RX but I find the RX "missing" the lines some times. The Lane centering of the RX is cool and gives the impression of autonomous driving but since the RX misses the lines some times, I think it isn't ready for primetime. The Infiniti doesn't have this feature.
03-31-16, 08:51 AM
#23
It is a standalone package. However, you can get it bundled with some lighting choices. Here's the options in my area:
LEXUS SAFETY SYSTEM +
$635
LEXUS SAFETY SYSTEM + WITH ADAPTIVE FRONT-LIGHTING SYSTEM
$1,050
LEXUS SAFETY SYSTEM + WITH PREMIUM TRIPLE-BEAM LED HEADLAMPS
$2,250
LEXUS SAFETY SYSTEM +
$635
LEXUS SAFETY SYSTEM + WITH ADAPTIVE FRONT-LIGHTING SYSTEM
$1,050
LEXUS SAFETY SYSTEM + WITH PREMIUM TRIPLE-BEAM LED HEADLAMPS
$2,250
03-31-16, 12:17 PM
#24
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
Just curious, when it's "missing the line", how well are the lines painted? If the system can't pick up the line because it's poorly painted, then it can't keep you in the lane. One if the MID screens shows the car and 2 lines. If the line is solid, the car sees the line. If the line is hollow, the car can't see the line. Just some info if you were not aware.
Speaking from experience and comparing with Infiniti QX60
1. The PCS sometimes makes me wonder whether it's even there. The Infiniti clearly works. (Not saying the PCS doesn't). The Infiniti beeps when you are closing in faster based on the speed difference and brakes if you don't adjust accordingly. Example driver in front doesn't signal but suddenly makes a right turn into a driveway thereby slowing a lot. The Infiniti beeps first to warn you of the suddenly slow car and if you don't slow down, it will slow down then brake for you.
I did get the pcs to activate once by beeping and flashing "Brake" when a car in front of me suddenly stopped while crossing an intersection slowly while I got distracted (whew).
Unlike the Infiniti, I could never willfully get pcs to engage.
So while the Infiniti is conservative, it surely gives you peace of mind that it's there (can be deactivated if you wish). PCS on the other hand seems to be programmed for the absolute last second which makes it less intrusive, whether it is less safe is unknown to me.
2. DRCC = Infiniti radar cruise. They both work as advertised.
3. Blind spot monitor on both work, but infiniti has sound warning too (Don't know if the rx beeps too). The Infiniti can intervene if you try to turn into a car in the blind spot by opposite wheel braking to slow/resist your turn. Though I have not tried to test this.
4. RCTA does what it's supposed to. Infiniti takes it one step further by braking if you don't stop. Tried to stop me from backing intentionally into a snow bank.
5. LKA in the Infiniti beeps if you hit the lines accurately. It resists crossing the line by opposite wheel braking. This is not as overriding as the steering assist provided by the RX but I find the RX "missing" the lines some times. The Lane centering of the RX is cool and gives the impression of autonomous driving but since the RX misses the lines some times, I think it isn't ready for primetime. The Infiniti doesn't have this feature.
6. The RX has intelligent headlamps. The Infiniti doesn't.
1. The PCS sometimes makes me wonder whether it's even there. The Infiniti clearly works. (Not saying the PCS doesn't). The Infiniti beeps when you are closing in faster based on the speed difference and brakes if you don't adjust accordingly. Example driver in front doesn't signal but suddenly makes a right turn into a driveway thereby slowing a lot. The Infiniti beeps first to warn you of the suddenly slow car and if you don't slow down, it will slow down then brake for you.
I did get the pcs to activate once by beeping and flashing "Brake" when a car in front of me suddenly stopped while crossing an intersection slowly while I got distracted (whew).
Unlike the Infiniti, I could never willfully get pcs to engage.
So while the Infiniti is conservative, it surely gives you peace of mind that it's there (can be deactivated if you wish). PCS on the other hand seems to be programmed for the absolute last second which makes it less intrusive, whether it is less safe is unknown to me.
2. DRCC = Infiniti radar cruise. They both work as advertised.
3. Blind spot monitor on both work, but infiniti has sound warning too (Don't know if the rx beeps too). The Infiniti can intervene if you try to turn into a car in the blind spot by opposite wheel braking to slow/resist your turn. Though I have not tried to test this.
4. RCTA does what it's supposed to. Infiniti takes it one step further by braking if you don't stop. Tried to stop me from backing intentionally into a snow bank.
5. LKA in the Infiniti beeps if you hit the lines accurately. It resists crossing the line by opposite wheel braking. This is not as overriding as the steering assist provided by the RX but I find the RX "missing" the lines some times. The Lane centering of the RX is cool and gives the impression of autonomous driving but since the RX misses the lines some times, I think it isn't ready for primetime. The Infiniti doesn't have this feature.
6. The RX has intelligent headlamps. The Infiniti doesn't.
6. Infiniti added that feature in 16s I believe
03-31-16, 01:37 PM
#25
They all work off painted lines from what I have see. I know my past MB350 did and my M56 Infinity did. All worked pretty well on the expressway but would sometime do the "ping ponging" thing, none were good enough where I felt comfortable reading a book. As far as around town none are ready that I have seen and have a long way to go. To me the most valuable feature in my 4RX is the braking feature which has yet proved itself.
If it only works one time I would consider it a bargain. This technology will get better and better.
If it only works one time I would consider it a bargain. This technology will get better and better.
03-31-16, 02:57 PM
#26
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
They all work off painted lines from what I have see. I know my past MB350 did and my M56 Infinity did. All worked pretty well on the expressway but would sometime do the "ping ponging" thing, none were good enough where I felt comfortable reading a book. As far as around town none are ready that I have seen and have a long way to go. To me the most valuable feature in my 4RX is the braking feature which has yet proved itself.
If it only works one time I would consider it a bargain. This technology will get better and better.
If it only works one time I would consider it a bargain. This technology will get better and better.
03-31-16, 07:14 PM
#27
Just curious, when it's "missing the line", how well are the lines painted? If the system can't pick up the line because it's poorly painted, then it can't keep you in the lane. One if the MID screens shows the car and 2 lines. If the line is solid, the car sees the line. If the line is hollow, the car can't see the line. Just some info if you were not aware.
04-01-16, 01:20 AM
#28
04-01-16, 05:18 AM
#29
Instructor
The only thing this system will not save is from yourself and other drivers who are idiots that share your road. Yes this system is worth it if it will save you from an accident if you were driving too close to car in front of you and not paying attention. But you shouldn't do that in the first place. Anyways its not that I disagree that the Safety+ is not worth it. I feel that every car lexus makes should have this and it will make the road that much safer from idiots.
I have driven 20 different cars for 18 years and never once was the cause of an accident. I have had 5 people crash into me because they were careless and or drunk. Two of those times while I was on a motorcycle. Its like everyone out there is trying to kill me LOL.
These safety systems in our cars are one of those things you cant test but hope it works when the time does come. Its like AIR bags in cars we cant test them but hope they will work when we do need them.
I have driven 20 different cars for 18 years and never once was the cause of an accident. I have had 5 people crash into me because they were careless and or drunk. Two of those times while I was on a motorcycle. Its like everyone out there is trying to kill me LOL.
These safety systems in our cars are one of those things you cant test but hope it works when the time does come. Its like AIR bags in cars we cant test them but hope they will work when we do need them.
04-01-16, 06:11 AM
#30
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
Hopefully Lexus design philosophy isnt the same. Would love to see updates on their LSS+ system.