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Wheels : VOSSEN VFS1
Size : 22"x10.5 all around
Offset: +42 Front +30 Back (See drescription below)
Tires: TOYO
Size : 265/35/22
This rim buying experience was pretty horrible and I guess it was partially my fault for not doing the proper research.
I went into a local reputable wheel shop to order these wheels..... All i said was I have a 2016 RX350 and
i want the Vossen VFS1 10.5 all around.
I left the shop guy to choose offset and wheels (big mistake)
A week later my rims come in and i go in for the install. They ordered me +42 Offsets all around. +42 OFFSET WILL NOT FIT OUR RX350 w/out at least a 20mm spacer
The shop tried to sell me on the 20mm spacer but I just couldnt do it and I was already pretty pissed off at that point.
@darith that has been helping me throughout this ordeal mentioned they have a +30offset for my VFS1 22x10.5 So we ended up reaching a compromise and I had them reorder 2 more VFS1's (+30offset ) that will clear my back.
Couple weeks pass and I get no call so I follow up with them (they said Vossen forgot to ship out my order ) So i wait another 2 weeks and finally get them install today.
Here is the end results. I wasnt too happy with the end result because of that huge fender gap (see pics below)
Obviously I cant leave that huge of a fender gap so I will probably end up doing a 1 - 1 1/2 inch drop when springs are available (RSR is working on one right now)
The wheels drive nice and relatively quiet.... not as quiet as stock tho but im sure after a few weeks i will forget about it.
I hope this post helps guide you in the right direction and not the wrong direction i took.... if i were to redo it again id probably go w/ 265/40/22 tires instead.
DAT GAP DOE!
oh and the icing on the cake was they couldnt program my tpms cause their sensor didnt have a 2016 RX350 programmed on it.
Feel free to ask any other questions
Thanks for looking
@DARITH THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!
*EDIT*
Also for those who are wondering about the road noise I hooked up an Decibel reader to my phone and recorded before an after from my dash board.
Road noise Normal stock 20" michellin tires was at 81DB average going approx 60mph on freeway
Road noise TOYO tires 22" was at 87DB average going approx 60mph on freeway (exact same route as above)
Looks really good, but I'm with you on the wheel gap. I am just not going to be able to change the wheels until there are some lowering springs. While I think you nailed the wheels, that gap would drive me insane. Thanks for the details.
Assuming I did my math right...that wheel gap makes complete sense.
Stock RX with 20 inch wheels gives a total diameter (wheel+tire aka ground to top of treads) of 766.5 mm or 30.18 inches.
508+(235*.55)*2
Stock RX with 18 inch wheels gives a total diameter of 762.7 mm or 30.02 inches.
457.2+(235*.65)*2
a56kuser, your RX with the 22 inch wheels and the tires you selected gives a total diameter of 744.3 mm or 29.30 inches.
558.8+(265*.35)*2
That's a difference of 22.2 mm or 0.87 inches.
So, I guess my question is...would a 265/40r22 tire work? Total diameter would be 770.8 mm. Is that too much? Just curious...
Correct, I believe I posted a diameter analysis in an earlier post that the 265/40/R22 are the recommended tires to match closest to factory diameter spec and he stated he'll go with that size the next time around. You can even go a step beyond to 265/45/R22 if you don't mind the 3.86% loss in speed which will close up the gap even more (dinobantin is running this setup successfully).
I was wondering that also because for some reason +42 did not clear my front during test fitment, so we sent those back and got the +30's all around instead, but he did get a different wheel model (VFS1) than I did (CVT).
Correct, I believe I posted a diameter analysis in an earlier post that the 265/40/R22 are the recommended tires to match closest to factory diameter spec and he stated he'll go with that size the next time around. You can even go a step beyond to 265/45/R22 if you don't mind the 3.86% loss in speed which will close up the gap even more (dinobantin is running this setup successfully).
I went with Toyo 265/40/22 on a 22x9 ET 38 and no problem with fitment or clearance. I kind of wish I would've gone with a 22x10.5 ET 40 but wasn't sure about clearance issue like a56kuser encountered or the wheels being wider then the fender. My set up isn't as flush as I'd like so I might just as some spacers to make it flush. Next time I will get the widest tire that will fit on a 9 inch wheel. Wifey already curbed a wheel
I went with Toyo 265/40/22 on a 22x9 ET 38 and no problem with fitment or clearance. I kind of wish I would've gone with a 22x10.5 ET 40 but wasn't sure about clearance issue like a56kuser encountered or the wheels being wider then the fender. My set up isn't as flush as I'd like so I might just as some spacers to make it flush. Next time I will get the widest tire that will fit on a 9 inch wheel. Wifey already curbed a wheel
EDIT: I went with Dr. Wheel mobile service and now my wheels looks brand new!
Originally Posted by 714guy
I went with Toyo 265/40/22 on a 22x9 ET 38 and no problem with fitment or clearance. I kind of wish I would've gone with a 22x10.5 ET 40 but wasn't sure about clearance issue like a56kuser encountered or the wheels being wider then the fender. My set up isn't as flush as I'd like so I might just as some spacers to make it flush. Next time I will get the widest tire that will fit on a 9 inch wheel. Wifey already curbed a wheel
Looks good! Good news is that a curbed wheel is repairable with sand paper, filler, tape, and paint/clear coat. Believe it or not, one of my rims were scraped by going over some tall speed-bumps, I'm planning on restoring it too:
Wheels : VOSSEN VFS1
Size : 22"x10.5 all around
Offset: +42 Front +30 Back (See drescription below)
Tires: TOYO
Size : 265/35/22
This rim buying experience was pretty horrible and I guess it was partially my fault for not doing the proper research.
I went into a local reputable wheel shop to order these wheels..... All i said was I have a 2016 RX350 and
i want the Vossen VFS1 10.5 all around.
I left the shop guy to choose offset and wheels (big mistake)
A week later my rims come in and i go in for the install. They ordered me +42 Offsets all around. +42 OFFSET WILL NOT FIT OUR RX350 w/out at least a 20mm spacer
The shop tried to sell me on the 20mm spacer but I just couldnt do it and I was already pretty pissed off at that point.
@darith that has been helping me throughout this ordeal mentioned they have a +30offset for my VFS1 22x10.5 So we ended up reaching a compromise and I had them reorder 2 more VFS1's (+30offset ) that will clear my back.
Couple weeks pass and I get no call so I follow up with them (they said Vossen forgot to ship out my order ) So i wait another 2 weeks and finally get them install today.
Here is the end results. I wasnt too happy with the end result because of that huge fender gap (see pics below)
Obviously I cant leave that huge of a fender gap so I will probably end up doing a 1 - 1 1/2 inch drop when springs are available (RSR is working on one right now)
The wheels drive nice and relatively quiet.... not as quiet as stock tho but im sure after a few weeks i will forget about it.
I hope this post helps guide you in the right direction and not the wrong direction i took.... if i were to redo it again id probably go w/ 265/40/22 tires instead.
DAT GAP DOE!
oh and the icing on the cake was they couldnt program my tpms cause their sensor didnt have a 2016 RX350 programmed on it.
Feel free to ask any other questions
Thanks for looking
@DARITH THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!
*EDIT*
Also for those who are wondering about the road noise I hooked up an Decibel reader to my phone and recorded before an after from my dash board.
Road noise Normal stock 20" michellin tires was at 81DB average going approx 60mph on freeway
Road noise TOYO tires 22" was at 87DB average going approx 60mph on freeway (exact same route as above)
Hi a56kuser, I was also going to go with the 22" +42 offset 10.5" wheels but was wondering what did not fit? Were the wheels sticking out too far? Were they hitting the suspension components? Did they rub when you hit the maximum turning radius? So the +42 worked for the front but not the back? I would have thought it would have been reversed. On paper it looks like it will work. From reading all the other posts I'm thinking either go with a narrower wheel, 9/9.5" or a lower offset. By the way the car looks great with the new wheels! Thanks for letting us in on what to expect when going to larger size wheels.
Hi a56kuser, I was also going to go with the 22" +42 offset 10.5" wheels but was wondering what did not fit? Were the wheels sticking out too far? Were they hitting the suspension components? Did they rub when you hit the maximum turning radius? So the +42 worked for the front but not the back? I would have thought it would have been reversed. On paper it looks like it will work. From reading all the other posts I'm thinking either go with a narrower wheel, 9/9.5" or a lower offset. By the way the car looks great with the new wheels! Thanks for letting us in on what to expect when going to larger size wheels.
For me, the 22x10.5" at +42 offset was hitting the shock suspension component, but the +30 cleared it just by a little less than a centimeter. We sent back the +42's and kept the +30's in the 10.5's all around. It's been two months and I've had zero issues since. Both ak56 and I are planning on lowering both our rides too when the lowering springs are available.
I want to go with Vossen CV3-R, 22x10.5 +30 on my '17 RX450H F-sport. Instead of 265/45/22 like was confirmed to fit, I want to go with 275/45/22 michelins.
Tire size calculators show little difference between the 265 vs 275 but would like your opinions based on the tire clearance. Think it would work? Don't want to go to the wheel and tire store and mess with fitment issues on an ~$4k ordered setup.
I want to go with Vossen CV3-R, 22x10.5 +30 on my '17 RX450H F-sport. Instead of 265/45/22 like was confirmed to fit, I want to go with 275/45/22 michelins.
Tire size calculators show little difference between the 265 vs 275 but would like your opinions based on the tire clearance. Think it would work? Don't want to go to the wheel and tire store and mess with fitment issues on an ~$4k ordered setup.
Diameter 31.4 vs 31.8"
Width 10.4 vs 10.8"
Those CV3-R's are clean. I was going to try 275's and also a taller 50 (to help close up the gap a bit) instead of 45 next on my next set of tires as well. I believe they should clear since it's only 5mm wider on each side. I can double check this weekend. Right now the 265's on my 22x10.5" +30 wheel give the wheel a cool stretched tire look (but the edge of the rim is exposed to potential damage until you put on some wheel protectors aka rim blades or rim savers as I already had to repair my rims twice and I didn't even curb them), so 275 may add a little more protection to the rim's edge against curb rash. Who'll be mounting your wheels & tires for you?
If you could measure your clearance it should give me an idea how much room I have to work with. Do we only have to worry about being close to the suspension or fender wells too?
I'll look up the 265/50's too.
285/45 is another Michelin size. Would love to squeeze those on there.
I'm not a fan of the streched tire look. Guess I'm old now. All I invision is curbs eveytime I see that.
Haven't go to the point of where to buy or mount them them yet.
I want the widest, thickest tire I can get on there without any issues even loaded up. Plus want a Micheiln tire.
If you could measure your clearance it should give me an idea how much room I have to work with. Do we only have to worry about being close to the suspension or fender wells too?
I'll look up the 265/50's too.
285/45 is another Michelin size. Would love to squeeze those on there.
I'm not a fan of the streched tire look. Guess I'm old now. All I invision is curbs eveytime I see that.
Haven't go to the point of where to buy or mount them them yet.
I want the widest, thickest tire I can get on there without any issues even loaded up. Plus want a Micheiln tire.
It clears the suspension, so you would need to only measure remaining distance between the tire and fender wells at your widest wheel-turning limits.
Wheels : VOSSEN VFS1
Size : 22"x10.5 all around
Offset: +42 Front +30 Back (See drescription below)
Tires: TOYO
Size : 265/35/22
@darith that has been helping me throughout this ordeal mentioned they have a +30offset for my VFS1 22x10.5 So we ended up reaching a compromise and I had them reorder 2 more VFS1's (+30offset ) that will clear my back.
Couple weeks pass and I get no call so I follow up with them (they said Vossen forgot to ship out my order ) So i wait another 2 weeks and finally get them install today.
I just read back through this and I think the wheel shop screwed you pretty good by not ordering you +30 all around. The +42 on the fronts mean your wheel is pushed farther into the suspension (inside) by 12mm than the back and lowering it could cause issues. The back wheels at +30 stick out 12mm more (flush) with the fender than the fronts do. I would have demanded they put on +30 all around. I guess it's too late now. I do appreciate all the info though because this is a big consideration for me in my search.
If you are running 10.5 +42 on the front and not having issues, then I am golden with 10.5 +30. +42 is 44mm less inside clearance on the front than the stock wheels (8" +30). Amazing that clears.
11-27-16, 10:55 PM
) So i wait another 2 weeks and finally get them install today.
