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RX 350 Coming in March 06

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Old 12-30-05, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sd2528
“As for pricing, depends on supply and demand, I would imagine people will order GS350 and RX350 ahead of time to drive up the pricing, but for IS350 it will come down since it is not "new" anymore”

Right but comes down to what price? Is a car that is that dramatically better really going to be available for a similar price? It’s not like they are having trouble moving the RX330s.
Since the RX350 will not be a total redesign I don't think the price will be a lot higher than the 330. Maybe 2-5% more . No reason to think you can't get the same deals on the 350 . I would definitely wait.
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“Since the RX350 will not be a total redesign I don't think the price will be a lot higher than the 330. Maybe 2-5% more . No reason to think you can't get the same deals on the 350 . I would definitely wait.”

If we only knew. I pick up my new RX330 tomorrow. Oh well. Can’t win them all. I’ll definitely be very happy with the 330 and price is a bit of an issue for us. My wife and I are also trying to start a family soon so we need to get rid of our current 2 door car. We were looking to take advantage of the low prices.

It would have been nice to know so we could have made a more informed decision but to be honest I don’t think it would have changed anything. But yeah, now that you guys explained all the details to me it definitely looks like if a little extra time and money isn’t a big deal to you then you should absolutely hold off for the 350. It sounds amazing.

I hope my ignorance helped.
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Originally Posted by sd2528
“As for pricing, depends on supply and demand, I would imagine people will order GS350 and RX350 ahead of time to drive up the pricing, but for IS350 it will come down since it is not "new" anymore”

Is a car that is that dramatically better really going to be available for a similar price?
Of course not, better cars with better design and features alway cost more. But pricing between different years within one generation changes according to supply and demand.
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Originally Posted by flipside909
Actually it's the 2GR-FSE in the IS350 that won the award, not the 2GR-FE that's found in the Avalon. The reason why the 2GR-FSE 3.5L V6 in the IS350 got the award was for the Direct Injection implementation on the New IS engine. It's a high powered engine that gets phenomenal mileage for a V6 of that caliber.

See the main article here:
https://www.clublexus.com/index.php/...iew/7492/1/10/
Yes, I stand corrected! Now let's hope RX350 does get the award winning 2gr-fse!
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Originally Posted by sd2528
“Since the RX350 will not be a total redesign I don't think the price will be a lot higher than the 330. Maybe 2-5% more . No reason to think you can't get the same deals on the 350 . I would definitely wait.”

If we only knew. I pick up my new RX330 tomorrow. Oh well. Can’t win them all. I’ll definitely be very happy with the 330 and price is a bit of an issue for us. My wife and I are also trying to start a family soon so we need to get rid of our current 2 door car. We were looking to take advantage of the low prices.

It would have been nice to know so we could have made a more informed decision but to be honest I don’t think it would have changed anything. But yeah, now that you guys explained all the details to me it definitely looks like if a little extra time and money isn’t a big deal to you then you should absolutely hold off for the 350. It sounds amazing.

I hope my ignorance helped.
Congratulations on the car especially if it's your first Lexus. You'll love it.Owning an RX330 is certainly not a regrettable decision especially if timing and the "deal" is a factor. Back in 98 we bought our first RX because we wanted an SUV but didn't want a truck. A couple of years ago when the wife totalled the 300 we didn't even think about any other brand. Congratulation again and if you have any questions after getting the car just ask.
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You know after hearing more about the RX350 it just seems like a completely different car than the RX330. Do you think there is any chance they keep both models? The RX330 can continue to compete with the Acura MDXs and BMW X3s while the RX350 goes up against the similar BMW X5 4.4i.

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Thanks cantsleepnk. Yeah it’s our first Lexus. I appreciate the offer with questions and I’m sure I’ll take you up on that once or twice. Thanks again for the patience.

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Old 12-30-05, 09:46 PM
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Fellas and ladies, LExus many times keeps the basic car but has is model cycle has a freshning. Many times this includes a new engine. Some past examples.
2LS came out in 1995
Freshning happened in 1998, same basic car, some changes, engine gained VVTi for more power.
2GS came out in 1998
in 2001, when the LS 430 came out, the GS 400 became the GS 430.
The 4ES 300 debuted in 2002. The ES 330 freshnig came in 2004.

So the RX 330 will become the RX 350 as its freshning. Expect minimal exterior changes as Lexus UNDERSTANDS the importance of keeping luxury cars looking timeless and not changing to often.

The RX 350 will be a mid to high 6 second car, easy. No more weight and I am sure it will have VVTi. THe Rav-4 with this engine makes 268hp, WITHOUT VVti!!

So a V-6 RX 350 will make more and comparable power to V-8 competiton.
The RX 400h, not sure how this will be affected yet.
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No sd2528 . The 3.5L should replace the 3.3L in all Toyotas and Lexuses with that engine. It's cheaper to do it that way especially with the competition upping the ante in the horsepower war.

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
THe Rav-4 with this engine makes 268hp, WITHOUT VVti!!
Without Direct Injection. It has Dual VVT-i just like the Avalon. But I agree with everything else.

(I can't believe it, I actually corrected Sick on something. You've been gone to long man. haha )
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Originally Posted by magneto112
Without Direct Injection. It has Dual VVT-i just like the Avalon. But I agree with everything else.

(I can't believe it, I actually corrected Sick on something. You've been gone to long man. haha )
lol, thanks for correcting me. I've been reading so much on other brands recently. I'll be back full force Sunday with a LOT of posts/threads and catching up to do! And pics and scans
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Wait for the RX350 only if you are to be the primary driver. My wife thinks her RX330 has plenty of power, I would call it adequate. It seems mostly a he/she thing in this respect.
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Originally Posted by sd2528
You know after hearing more about the RX350 it just seems like a completely different car than the RX330. Do you think there is any chance they keep both models? The RX330 can continue to compete with the Acura MDXs and BMW X3s while the RX350 goes up against the similar BMW X5 4.4i.
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I don't think so. If yo udrive the RX330 around long enough you will find it has adequate power, actually not too bad down low and slower speeds, but it really is a hurt dog at anything above 60/70 MPH. I know SUVs are not really meant to be traveling at those higher speeds, but it is very slow in passing on the freeway compared to other cars. Sure, it is faster than a base Civic and Corolla at passing, but that is not saying much. The MDX and such has more torque and more HP than the RX330 and you can feel it. The 4.4 X5 has much more power as well. the 3.3 engine was enough to move a Camry and EX330, but just adequate for an SUV. The RX350 would be a welcomed adition and after we sell our RX330 next year, if we ever get another RX I would get the RX350 over the RX400H myself.
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Originally Posted by jaydunn
Wait for the RX350 only if you are to be the primary driver. My wife thinks her RX330 has plenty of power, I would call it adequate. It seems mostly a he/she thing in this respect.
I agree. Even my wife thinks our RX330 could use more power and refinement. She loves the car, but if a choice of the 3.5 engine and more HP were available (Not the 400H since niether of us want a hybrid right now) the RX350 would be her choice as well.
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The new higher-powered version of the new RAV4 (we did not get it here in Mexico) seems with its power and weight to be a nice addition. I hope the RX350 keeps itself on an equally trim diet or that power will go on the way side. Too often I come into contact with higher hp SUVs at the track only to eat them up due to their weight. Hurts for them on the track and I am sure at the pump.
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When I picked up my car on Saturday I thought I would pump the salesman for some info on the RX350 for your guys. I asked him to give me a call when the RX350 came out. Then I asked him if they had any ideas when that would be. He said probably not until MY 2008 or 2009 when they redesign the body but he did say that I would probably find out before he did.

When I told him that I was hearing March or May of 2006 in the current body he said there was no way. He said if it were that soon he definite have heard about it. They would have some concrete information on it and would probably be taking deposits or orders.

After reading through the RX400 roll call sticky and seeing that people were on their dealers waiting list for 18 – 24 months before the cars were delivered why is there no information from the dealer about a car that is supposedly coming out in a few months?

And speaking of the RX400, even if they used the Avalon 270 hp engine wouldn’t this kill the RX400 as well as the RX330? Would Lexus really do that to a model they just released less than a year ago?

I know I heard this from a car salesman so it’s not like he’s above lying to me but I asked him about this after all the papers were signed. There was no turning back so he had less incentive to lie. It’s not like I trust him but I’ve did a bit of Google searching and I can’t find much on the RX350 at all. Basically it’s just speculation on message boards like this. What makes you think that it this close to being rolled out?


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