Is right rear tone ring the most likely to break?
#1
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Is right rear tone ring the most likely to break?
Getting ready to chase down why my ABS is kicking in on dry pavement... From what I've read here and elsewhere it seems like the rear tone rings are more likely to break than the front. And it seems like possible right rear is more likely than left rear. Can anyone verify this?
#2
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Getting ready to chase down why my ABS is kicking in on dry pavement... From what I've read here and elsewhere it seems like the rear tone rings are more likely to break than the front. And it seems like possible right rear is more likely than left rear. Can anyone verify this?
#4
Driver School Candidate
Is it true that if one breaks you would get an error code? That's what I was told by the Lexus dealer service dept I took my car to a couple of weeks ago regarding the the pulsating feeling coming from the car when breaking. I told him that from my research it seemed like either it could be the rotors or a broken tone ring. He came back and said the only way to fix it would be to do all the rotors/brakes but that would be doing it 15,000 miles before it was due. Huh? I just got the feeling he didn't like being told what may be wrong by a woman. I have a couple of other issues but I will start another thread as I don't want this one to get off topic.
#5
Broken tone ring does not normally throw a code, just gives the ABS incorrect info and tells it to modulate the brakes. You can always disconnect the ABS to try a few stops and see if that makes it stop happening. Check with Lexmex or search, but I think he was just disconnecting the harness in the engine compartment to disable it.
#6
Driver School Candidate
I didn't think it threw a code from what I recalled from this site but didn't want to dispute him until I was sure. Plus I just felt like I was getting no where. When he said to fix it I had to do a total brake service but I shouldn't have to for another 15,000 it struck me as not them not really addressing the issue and giving an easy answer.
#7
Mine did not throw a code
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#8
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Does the ABS actuator itself make alot of noise ? When my ABS kicks in (suspected broken tone ring) all the noise and commotion seems to come from the front right where the ABs actuator is. I'm wondering if there always noise front right from the asbs... or does the noise come from the corner that is pulsing?
#9
Does the ABS actuator itself make alot of noise ? When my ABS kicks in (suspected broken tone ring) all the noise and commotion seems to come from the front right where the ABs actuator is. I'm wondering if there always noise front right from the asbs... or does the noise come from the corner that is pulsing?
#10
Lexus Test Driver
I hear a "clunking" when braking extremely hard (ie. emergency stops because if some idiot). The "clunk" sounds like this.... clunk....(1 sec pause)....clunk....(1 sec pause)......clunk........ etc.
The first time I heard the clunk was this July when I was in Chicago and had to brake hard cause the light turned red and there was a cop right there. After that, I've heard it about 3-4 times (in total since July). So, I'm thinking it's not the ABS, it's just the poor rotors and brake pads I have on now.
I know what ABS sounds like, and this doesn't sound like it. But, I could be wrong...
I know my rotors are warped, they are pretty bad. The brake pads need to be replaced within' 10k miles as well. I'm holding off now till around june (2012). Which is a long time.
Do you think the cause of my noise is due to ABS or the warped rotors creating too much shaking for the caliper which might have stuck sliding pins?
EDIT: forgot to mention, the ABS light doesn't come on when the noise occurs (but the light does work)
The first time I heard the clunk was this July when I was in Chicago and had to brake hard cause the light turned red and there was a cop right there. After that, I've heard it about 3-4 times (in total since July). So, I'm thinking it's not the ABS, it's just the poor rotors and brake pads I have on now.
I know what ABS sounds like, and this doesn't sound like it. But, I could be wrong...
I know my rotors are warped, they are pretty bad. The brake pads need to be replaced within' 10k miles as well. I'm holding off now till around june (2012). Which is a long time.
Do you think the cause of my noise is due to ABS or the warped rotors creating too much shaking for the caliper which might have stuck sliding pins?
EDIT: forgot to mention, the ABS light doesn't come on when the noise occurs (but the light does work)
Last edited by hypervish; 10-02-11 at 08:48 AM.
#11
My 1st RX was an 03 model as the 2nd GEN 04's were coming out. From about 15000 miles I was having constant rotor problems front and rear. I know the OEM parts were as good as it gets. The problem was during an early tire rotation someone incorrectly torqued the lugs.
As all my service was at Lexus stores, Lexus eventually after two turnings replaced the rotors. Two months later I got my RX 450h.
The 03 was bullet proof other than that. And my (h) is my best Lexus ride yet.
As all my service was at Lexus stores, Lexus eventually after two turnings replaced the rotors. Two months later I got my RX 450h.
The 03 was bullet proof other than that. And my (h) is my best Lexus ride yet.
I hear a "clunking" when braking extremely hard (ie. emergency stops because if some idiot). The "clunk" sounds like this.... clunk....(1 sec pause)....clunk....(1 sec pause)......clunk........ etc.
The first time I heard the clunk was this July when I was in Chicago and had to brake hard cause the light turned red and there was a cop right there. After that, I've heard it about 3-4 times (in total since July). So, I'm thinking it's not the ABS, it's just the poor rotors and brake pads I have on now.
I know what ABS sounds like, and this doesn't sound like it. But, I could be wrong...
I know my rotors are warped, they are pretty bad. The brake pads need to be replaced within' 10k miles as well. I'm holding off now till around june (2012). Which is a long time.
Do you think the cause of my noise is due to ABS or the warped rotors creating too much shaking for the caliper which might have stuck sliding pins?
The first time I heard the clunk was this July when I was in Chicago and had to brake hard cause the light turned red and there was a cop right there. After that, I've heard it about 3-4 times (in total since July). So, I'm thinking it's not the ABS, it's just the poor rotors and brake pads I have on now.
I know what ABS sounds like, and this doesn't sound like it. But, I could be wrong...
I know my rotors are warped, they are pretty bad. The brake pads need to be replaced within' 10k miles as well. I'm holding off now till around june (2012). Which is a long time.
Do you think the cause of my noise is due to ABS or the warped rotors creating too much shaking for the caliper which might have stuck sliding pins?
#12
Location of ABS relay
Massmini, Here's the location of the ABS relay .
#13
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Is a rear axle easier to remove with the strut out? I'm need to replace the rear struts and fix a tone ring and I'd like to understand if there's any benefit to combining the two projects.
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