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Old 10-16-15, 07:25 AM
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I would get the bolt from the dealer and solicit help from some one who has slender hands to reach and get the threads going. Then you can use your new tool to tighten it down. I only wish I could get my torque wrench in there

Congratulations on successful completion of a pretty daunting DIY. Lot of labor hours.

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Old 12-17-15, 06:37 PM
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I did it! Thank you, Salim. I followed all of your instructions and did not have any real issues. I suggest draining down the coolant, I recommend replacing the knock sensor wire harness (mine was brittle), and I had the same difficulty disconnecting the knock sensor wire harness from the rest of the wiring. However, it is a simple step-by-step process and you covered it very well. In addition to passing inspection, my mileage is better now and I don't have to buy high-octane to prevent knocking. Does its job.
My 1999 with 291,000 miles is ready for at least a few more. Thanks!
Old 07-14-16, 07:09 PM
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Salim - Thanks for your notes, very thorough. Even an absolute novice like me did it by following your steps in about 9 hours. Also changed spark plugs and valve cover gaskets. My wife thinks I'm a god.

These videos were also very helpul showing the same basic steps as Salim describes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brV5MEgzfHs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QxBI9U4ecHY

I had a helping hand once I had the AIM removed, very helpful to have someone hold up the radiator hose while fingering off the knock sensor clips.

One question - On my used Lexus the 14mm retainer bolt on the back of the AIM wasn't there at all. Is it an important bolt for long term? From reading description here it appears much easier to do this service without that bolt, and one video above omits it entirely from their description.

Again, a million thanks to Salim for saving me probably 2K in labor!!
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Old 07-14-16, 07:58 PM
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Welcome to Club Lexus. I am obsessive about doing the job right. Although any other screw would work, but I would pay 10 times more to get the one from Lexus/Toyota.

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Thank you very much for the great post. My 2001 RX300 has the code P0330 and the Toyota dealer recommended me to replace both knock sensors and harness in Bank 2. But in your DIY you never mention anything about whether the knock sensors you did in your instruction are in bank 1 or Bank 2. Could you please explain that to me?

Originally Posted by salimshah
Difficulty level 6/10. Time 6-8 hrs

Tools needed:
Phillips screw driver, allen key, torx screw driver.
8,10,12,14mm sockets & wrenches
Assorted 1/4" 3/8" extensions and or adapters.
27mm wrench [I used adjustable wrench]
Torque wrench
torx socket
Trough to catch coolant.
3m Blue masking tape.
Marker/tags to mark where the hoses go. [if you rely on memory alone, you may be in trouble]

Material:
Knock sensors [take your vin number to parts as a switch was made]
Wire harness [most probably the old can not be reused]
3/4" high temp (gray) wire loom * [if your wire harness carrier box crumbles or is crumbling .. replacement with harness is over $1000]
coat hanger or stiff wire *
Lexus/Toyota coolant [I used conc red 1 jug]
2 Gallons distilled water. [you will need 1.25 gal approx]
Air plenum gasket set.
Shop Vac.

Other things to consider:
Since the top of the engine block is going to be removed, you may seriously think about changing the spark plugs and cleaning IACV.

General procedure: Slide a narrow socket over the pin end of the plastic hold down pins .. this squeeze the clips and you can lift the pin out. Loosen all bolts one or two turns instead of removing one bolt completely. Leave one or two bolts partially threaded and shake the component free. Similarly thread all nuts and bolts but do not tighten them down before seating (gently shake) the piece in. Then face evenly and then torque them evenly in criss-cross pattern. Always undo the most difficult fastener first and during assembly tighten it first. [for head gaskets work your way from middle to out during assembly].
Clamps on hoses should be moved over and clear across the barb. Twist each hose to break the seal before attempting to pull. During assembly gently twist the hose on. Make sure there is no twist/kink in the hose in its final state. Position the clamps in their original position (which typically is positioned to provide easy access).
All electrical connectors have a clasp to hold wires and provide slack and support. Make sure when you finish the job, you make no compromises. Inspect each hose/pipe/connector and replace them if you think they may need replacement.


1. Make sure the engine is cold.
2. Disconnect the battery.
3. Drain the coolant from bottom of the radiator and engine block [near oil filter for FWD]. Will take about 1/2 hr to drain out. [You can do a partial drain as well. Much simpler to drain all other wise you have to estimate how much to drain ... coolant level must drop below the intake level, else you will have coolant in the intake manifold.
4. Tape two strips of 3M and put it on the wind screen along the edge of wiper.
5. Remove the wiper arms by undoing the nuts that hold the wiper.
6. Remove the plastic hold down rivets and remove the two ventilator pieces. [plastic below the wiper arms]
7. Disconnect the wires for the wiper motor and remove bolts and lift off the wiper motor-arm assembly.
8. Remove bolts and lift out the outer cowl top panel [metal box].
9. Remove air filter and filter box [note two hoses that come to the box + hose and carefully unhook the acc cable].
10. Remove the acc cable. Loosen the lock nut and pull out the slug from the butterfly wheel.
11. Do the same with the cruise control throttle cable.
12. Remove the v-bank cover ("L" and 3 hex-key nuts)
13. Disconnect the maf connector. Loosen the phillips screw wire clamps of the air intake. Remove the air intake.
14. Mark and disconnect hoses attached to the throttle body [TB]. Disconnect the two electrical connectors. There are 3 nuts connecting the TB to air intake chamber and the fourth is near the firewall (hidden from plain view). One hose at the bottom can be loosened when the TB is removed.
15. Air-intake chamber [AIC] removal. Disconnect all the hoses (pre-mark) and connectors. Undo the nut holding ground wires on the passenger side of the AIC. Loosen the bolts holding the AIC to the engine block.
15 continued (b)... the hardest step is to loosen the 14mm hidden bolt. Locate the black metal hook [#1 engine hanger] near the firewall on the passenger side of [AIC]. You have to squeeze 14mm small socket and drive in there. The trick is to loosen it enough, while still allowing the socket to be removed. If the spin the bolt too much the head will stick out too far and you will not be able to remove the socket. Now you can struggle with finger to undo the rest or use a wrench [or thin gear head] to undo the rest. By loosing the bolt, the head will come out enough to clear the "U" of the engine hanger.
15 continued (c): Remove the bolt holding the PS pressure tube near firewall.
15 continued (d): Lift the [AIC] up and partially out. There is yet another ground cable at the back tied by a screw.

Cleanup time>> make sure your work environment is dust free and clean. Use the Shop vac to clean up the head area. In my case the harness box had crumbled. Vacuum and vacuum again.

16. Disconnect the fuel pressure line. Be careful as there may be a bit of fuel spill ... no open flame etc. In the engine bay way below the brake booster is the fuel quick connect. The cover is an upside down "U" shaped plastic. Squeeze the two sides and lift the cover off. Twist the pipe going towards the engine by half a turn and the pipe will separate. [as long as battery is disconnected and the key is removed the pump can not come on].

17. Start disconnecting the hoses and connectors to the intake manifold assembly [IMA]. Mark them. Note, some of the hoses may already be free from the far end.

18. Remove bolts of the top engine mount holding down the water outlet. Remove all bolts and the nuts on the studs. Note few bolts are short.

19. Before lifting off the IMA clean the area. Lift the IMA and with six clean rags stuff the intake holes ... anything that goes there will be impossible to extract.

20. Disconnect the connectors from the sensors. My clips broke and the harness had to be replaced. You will need 27mm open ended wrench or adjustable wrench. You can easily replace both sensors without removing the hose.

21. I had to struggle to release the harness from the driver side of the engine. The trick is to lift the lock towards the wire (away from the engine) and slide towards the cabin. I found it easier to attach the wires to the sensor and then thread the connector. Remember to snap on the harness stand-off as that will lift the wire of the hot surface.

Disassembly is complete.

Reassembly is much easier. Just reverse the steps and use new gaskets. There is a channel for coolant and if the gasket is worn/bad, you can get coolant in the intake. OEM gaskets are not soft/rubbery.

Dont forget the hidden bolts and ground wires.

Line up the wiper blades with the masking tape and toque down the holding nuts.

Tighten the coolant drain plugs. 1:1 mix ratio is not necessary {in fact a bit more water is preferred ... look at the mix ratio on the bottle**. Start by making a 1:1 mixture and top up with just water. Remember to add the mix in the overflow reservoir ... you dont want to top it with just water. It may take a day or two to have the system full or purged of air. Remember to run the heater too.


Safety Check: Check that the fuel connector does not leak.


Ref: Look up the DIY for coolant replacement and IACV cleanup thread.

Shortcuts: I was assured you need not remove the wiper motor/cowl. I needed to paint the faded plastic so I went ahead and removed it. I think the access is much easier and my hands are large .. so very well worth it.

Extras: My CEL only complained about one sensor, but I went ahead replaced both. Some suggest that the bypass hose should be replaced ... well mine looked in good shape and I decided not to touch it.
The wire carrier was in bits and pieces for me. Per-suggestions I have used high temp loom and suspended it by a bridge made out of coat hanger.

Torques:
IMA hold down 11ft-lb
AIC hold down 32 ft-lb
Engine mount long bolts 47 ft-lb
Engine mount short bolt 23 ft-lb
Wiper arm nut 18-lb-ft

Salim
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Knock sensors (which cover both banks) sit in the middle of the "v". When you invest so much time and parts, IMHO replace both and the little harness that connects the two to the main harness.

Salim

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Old 08-05-16, 04:41 PM
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Thank you for your reply, Salim. I understand it now. I am waiting for the parts to come in and I think I am now confident to do this project.
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Hi Salim,

I want to make sure that this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=ATVPDKIKX0DER is the manifold gasket set we need, right? Also, do you recommend replacing also the throttle body gasket? I found that there are two kinds of gasket: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=ATVPDKIKX0DER and https://www.amazon.com/Fel-Pro-61020...ounting+Gasket. Which one is the correct one, or both are correct? By the way, my SUV is 2001 Rx300 with 174,000 miles.

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Knock sensors (which cover both banks) sit in the middle of the "v". When you are invest so much time and parts, IMHO replace both and the little harness that connects the two to the main harness.

Salim
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I bought my parts through the local Lexus dealership and I took my VIN to them to ensure I get the 'right' sensors.

I just wish I had kept the part number list. You can look up sites like Lexus of South Atlanta or Carson Toyota/Lexus who have the parts catalog on line.

When it comes to gaskets, I always replace them (specially if the service manual marks them as such). I save on the labor and do not look for bargains or skimp on parts. But that is just me and I do all I can to DIY as do not trust if the mechanic has skimped on any item.

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Hi all,

I am working on replacing the knock sensors. I am actually almost done and is putting back everything together. Now, in step 15 described by Salim, am I right that there are 3 ground wires on the passenger side of the AIC, and they are all hold by ONE nut? I am pretty sure that this nut holds at least 2 ground wires, but then I don't know where to put the other one.

Any help is appreciated.

Hung.

Originally Posted by salimshah
Difficulty level 6/10. Time 6-8 hrs
15. Air-intake chamber [AIC] removal. Disconnect all the hoses (pre-mark) and connectors. Undo the nut holding ground wires on the passenger side of the AIC. Loosen the bolts holding the AIC to the engine block.

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Originally Posted by HungTeng
Hi all,

I am working on replacing the knock sensors. I am actually almost done and is putting back everything together. Now, in step 15 described by Salim, am I right that there are 3 ground wires on the passenger side of the AIC, and they are all hold by ONE nut? I am pretty sure that this nut holds at least 2 ground wires, but then I don't know where to put the other one.

Any help is appreciated.

Hung.
It has been a while but I think there were 3 wires. Maybe some can confirm or give a picture of the wiring diagram.

As a rule of thumb, loosely connect the two wires. Take the third and see its natural position by letting it float. If that does not help try moving around/stretching the end. The attach point has to be within the arc of the movement.

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Which Part numbers should I order? :
Old pre 8/99 Part number 89615-12040
New later production number 89615-12090
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Please read the whole thread. You need to take your vin number to the dealer to get the right part number (suggested).

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I'm getting ready to purchase parts for my knock sensor replacement, which I plan to do towards the end of this month. I'm debating whether to spend the extra money and purchase the intake manifold gaskets for both heads. Of course, if I did decide to replace them I would buy OEM only, which comes out to be roughly $50. I'm going to replace the upper intake manifold gasket for sure, as it's only $10.

Thoughts?
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Hyper if the service manual indicates a part should be replaced "diamond" notation, I would change it. Your time and labor is worth a lot and no point in going back and redoing it.

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