Tire Rack & Cross Terrains discrepancy
06-14-07, 03:47 PM
#16
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However, you pay for the suckers, about $200 USD or so per tire here.
Integritys won't last on Mexican roads though.
Best thing I ever did was to get nitrogen. I used to lose about 1 psi per month on normal air (that is about right), but virtually nothing with the nitrogen.
06-14-07, 03:56 PM
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The Tire Rack rating is based on the opinions of the people who visited its website, not based on scientific testing.
Read CR's RX300 reviews ('98 and '01) with the Bridgestone Dueler 687 tires. Here are some of the editor's comments relevant to the tires:
"Overall braking performance was very good"
"Soaks up most pavement flaws well"
"Highway ride is serene"
"...avoidance maneuver... commendable for an SUV"
"Handling is secure though not agile" (This ain't sports car)
When in doubt, I'd trust experts who've done their research and testing. Also note that higher rating in tire wear does not make it a better tire.
Read CR's RX300 reviews ('98 and '01) with the Bridgestone Dueler 687 tires. Here are some of the editor's comments relevant to the tires:
"Overall braking performance was very good"
"Soaks up most pavement flaws well"
"Highway ride is serene"
"...avoidance maneuver... commendable for an SUV"
"Handling is secure though not agile" (This ain't sports car)
When in doubt, I'd trust experts who've done their research and testing. Also note that higher rating in tire wear does not make it a better tire.
06-14-07, 04:41 PM
#18
Lexus Test Driver
The Tire Rack rating is based on the opinions of the people who visited its website, not based on scientific testing.
Read CR's RX300 reviews ('98 and '01) with the Bridgestone Dueler 687 tires. Here are some of the editor's comments relevant to the tires:
"Overall braking performance was very good"
"Soaks up most pavement flaws well"
"Highway ride is serene"
"...avoidance maneuver... commendable for an SUV"
"Handling is secure though not agile" (This ain't sports car)
When in doubt, I'd trust experts who've done their research and testing. Also note that higher rating in tire wear does not make it a better tire.
Read CR's RX300 reviews ('98 and '01) with the Bridgestone Dueler 687 tires. Here are some of the editor's comments relevant to the tires:
"Overall braking performance was very good"
"Soaks up most pavement flaws well"
"Highway ride is serene"
"...avoidance maneuver... commendable for an SUV"
"Handling is secure though not agile" (This ain't sports car)
When in doubt, I'd trust experts who've done their research and testing. Also note that higher rating in tire wear does not make it a better tire.
"Dueler H/T D687 for your RX? Think again."
Your first line read:
"If you need replacement tires for your RX, don't buy the OEM Bridgestone Dueler H/T D687."
here's the link if you would like to re-read the whole thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ighlight=tires
06-15-07, 07:58 AM
#20
Lexus Test Driver
I guess you are right about that. We all expect safety and a ceratin performance level from a tire but beyond that are needs vary a bit. Some of us need summer tires, some winter tires and some a combination of both. A good number of us here are maintaining our wifes ride. Others are maintaining their own ride. For some who prefer the wider look and added benefits at the track a 235 makes sense. Some may not plan on keeping their RX that long in which case a lower wearing tire might make good economic sense as long as it still delivers reasonable safety and performance.
06-17-07, 10:22 AM
#21
Lexus Champion
They tested the 235, which is the Ford OEM. You can look up how CR test their tires in controlled scientific settings. I won't bother to repeat it here.
06-17-07, 10:24 AM
#22
Lexus Champion
Would you trust your own opinion? On 2/26/06 you created a post titled:
"Dueler H/T D687 for your RX? Think again."
Your first line read:
"If you need replacement tires for your RX, don't buy the OEM Bridgestone Dueler H/T D687."
here's the link if you would like to re-read the whole thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ighlight=tires
"Dueler H/T D687 for your RX? Think again."
Your first line read:
"If you need replacement tires for your RX, don't buy the OEM Bridgestone Dueler H/T D687."
here's the link if you would like to re-read the whole thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ighlight=tires
As tire wears down, its performance characteristics can change. So it's important that I keep fellow ClubLexus members updated.
06-18-07, 04:04 PM
#23
Lexus Champion
It could be the moisture in the air that get the valves slightly stuck and leak air. Frozen nitrogen expels moisture so the gas is completely dry when it comes out. Fortunately I haven't seen any leaking issues either with nitrogen or plain air.
06-18-07, 04:18 PM
#24
Super Moderator
That's a good point, and when I thought about it, I think the issues I use to notice with the air were due to the thin air we have up here. I see people checking tire pressure WAY MORE than back in the U.S. Not sure what you experience in Colorado, but we don't get the same temperature range as there, much hotter here in comparison.
06-18-07, 04:57 PM
#25
Lexus Test Driver
I have been using nitrogen since Costco started offering it for free and found the same. I almost never have to add to my tires anymore. I just received a flyer from the lexus dealer listing all the benefits of nitrogen offering to fill my tires with nitrogen for $74.
06-18-07, 06:36 PM
#26
Super Moderator
Down here I can get it for $25 USD for all 4, actually now free for me at my exhaust place. Costco here charges under $20 USD.
06-18-07, 08:24 PM
#27
Pole Position
But I don't understand why pay $74 three times less than free air?
Air is 78% Nitrogen anyway, so basically you pay $74 to remove Oxygen from your tires. Btw, how do customers know if it is 100% Nitrogen? Maybe they sell just 78% Nitrogen? ;-) Well if it would be free with a purchase of a set I would do it. But $74! come on Lexus! What next? You start charging for coffee and bottled water?
06-18-07, 09:20 PM
#28
Super Moderator
I know that tire that is inflated with Nitrogen loses its pressure 3 times slower.
But I don't understand why pay $74 three times less than free air?
Air is 78% Nitrogen anyway, so basically you pay $74 to remove Oxygen from your tires. Btw, how do customers know if it is 100% Nitrogen? Maybe they sell just 78% Nitrogen? ;-) Well if it would be free with a purchase of a set I would do it. But $74! come on Lexus! What next? You start charging for coffee and bottled water?
But I don't understand why pay $74 three times less than free air?
Air is 78% Nitrogen anyway, so basically you pay $74 to remove Oxygen from your tires. Btw, how do customers know if it is 100% Nitrogen? Maybe they sell just 78% Nitrogen? ;-) Well if it would be free with a purchase of a set I would do it. But $74! come on Lexus! What next? You start charging for coffee and bottled water?
06-19-07, 07:12 AM
#30
Lexus Test Driver