Leasing an RC 350 with Lexus - questions
#16
I don't agree 100% that this will happen this way. If you do a one pay lease on $50,000 car for example and say the you pay $18,000 to pay the lease off up front. The cap cost is somewhere around $ 32,000 give or take. If the car gets totaled a month later the insurance should pay the cash value of the car which for example purposes is $46,000 or so. I understand the lessor would get the check for the $46,000. Now they get that check and the $18,000 you paid on the lease which totals $64,000 for a car that only cost $50,000 to start. You don't think as a minimum the would put at least some of the excess toward a new lease or rebate the rest back to you. I believe they would
#17
Lexus Fanatic
I think thats a huge risk to take because you have faith that LFS would do the right thing. I don't have faith in entities like LFS.
#18
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I bought gap insurance from the dealer, if i find its cheaper elsewhere I can cancel it get the pro rated difference. I put nothing down on my 3IS because of 1.9% @ 60 months. I've made a lot more in the stock market instead of dumping it in a down payment
#19
Lexus Test Driver
I'm very interested in leasing an RC 350 when they're available, but have some questions for those that have leased with Lexus before:
1. Everything I've read says not to put money down on a lease (in case of theft or an accident that totals the car - you lose the down payment). Does Lexus allow you to do that (knowing it will raise the monthly lease payment)?
2. I've also read that you can pay a (refundable) security deposit (or multiple) to reduce the money factor. Does Lexus allow you to do that?
3. Do you think Lexus would include this new model in their "December to Remember" program?
4. Any other tips for leasing a Lexus?
Being a potential "early adopter" of the RC 350, I doubt that Lexus will discount MSRP (typically the only negotiable), so I'm looking for ways to make leasing affordable.
This would be my first Lexus and my first car lease, so I appreciate all of your experience in advance.
1. Everything I've read says not to put money down on a lease (in case of theft or an accident that totals the car - you lose the down payment). Does Lexus allow you to do that (knowing it will raise the monthly lease payment)?
2. I've also read that you can pay a (refundable) security deposit (or multiple) to reduce the money factor. Does Lexus allow you to do that?
3. Do you think Lexus would include this new model in their "December to Remember" program?
4. Any other tips for leasing a Lexus?
Being a potential "early adopter" of the RC 350, I doubt that Lexus will discount MSRP (typically the only negotiable), so I'm looking for ways to make leasing affordable.
This would be my first Lexus and my first car lease, so I appreciate all of your experience in advance.
Cash Value versus Replacement Value
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Gap Coverage
For individuals who are leasing a car, gap insurance coverage is also an option to make sure that they are fully covered for the entire value of the car. Very often, auto insurance for leased cars only covers the amount of the lease and not the total value of the car. If the car is totaled, however, the finance company will expect the person who leased the car to pay off the entire value of the car. Gap insurance provides coverage for this gap between the lease value and the purchase value of the car. Some lease finance companies require gap insurance as part of lease terms.
Last edited by FastTags; 11-10-14 at 12:02 PM.
#20
Lexus Test Driver
I don't agree 100% that this will happen this way. If you do a one pay lease on $50,000 car for example and say the you pay $18,000 to pay the lease off up front. The cap cost is somewhere around $ 32,000 give or take. If the car gets totaled a month later the insurance should pay the cash value of the car which for example purposes is $46,000 or so. I understand the lessor would get the check for the $46,000. Now they get that check and the $18,000 you paid on the lease which totals $64,000 for a car that only cost $50,000 to start. You don't think as a minimum the would put at least some of the excess toward a new lease or rebate the rest back to you. I believe they would
Lessor would send $18,000 back tot he lessee though ( I think). Unless, you agree to keep the car as is, or sell it as is, in that case the car is no longer owned by the BANK and you can collect the CASH $46,000. I think buying the car would be the best option as you guaranteed to get $46,000.
I had a similar situation with another car which I was leasing, the insurance owed me $1800 for collision, but they told me that they would have to send the money to the BANK and not to me since I did not own the car. The BANK told me they would not give me the money if they would receive $1800. The insurance told me that if I keep the car or even sell the car to which I have 2 years to do it, they will send the $1800 to me.
I sold the car, and sent them a transfer papers and got my $1800 in two days.
now that I think about it, GAP only covers the gap b/n the Insurance and what you owe to the BANK, so in the Example where the Insurance would pay $46,000 to the BANK, GAP is not even going to be used.
Last edited by FastTags; 11-10-14 at 12:51 PM.
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