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Old 12-21-13, 02:53 PM   #1501
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M3 / M4 chassis is said to have 50% unique parts in comparison to standard F30 / F32.

You can see most of the features / specs here:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=923203

They've already done high power, high reving NA motors. But that's like saying why can't Lexus match their entry level 4 cylinder without doing having to do a new 2.0t. Let's appreciate what both are doing.

New M3/ M4 will be beasts and hopefully the RC-F equally impresses.
Yeah I know. But the 5.0L 2UR-GSE is not a 'high revving' engine.

Like with all Toyota engines (except for a few) it's designed for a smooth and as much wide power band as possible.
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Old 12-21-13, 02:55 PM   #1502
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Once Lexus realizes that a sub-500 HP GSF will be a total flop, I'm sure they'll fix things for the 2nd generation.
They've had time to do R&D and competitors playing their cards out, I honestly hope the 1st gen doesn't flop.
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Old 12-21-13, 03:12 PM   #1503
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Once Lexus realizes that a sub-500 HP GSF will be a total flop, I'm sure they'll fix things for the 2nd generation.
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They've had time to do R&D and competitors playing their cards out, I honestly hope the 1st gen doesn't flop.
This revised 5.0L V8 is essentially a bridge engine while the twin turbo V6 and V8 mills are being developed. LPC is hinting at 2016 models being available with the new mills (**obviously suject to change) but suffice to say a FI Future is on the horizon for Lexus
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Old 12-21-13, 03:54 PM   #1504
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RC350: 306HP

RC-F: 460

says 318 bhp here

http://www.lexus-int.com/models/RC/
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Old 12-21-13, 04:06 PM   #1505
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Sorry, but BMW lost hp war this time around. Let's see how those car stack up on the track.
Remember the future competition package on the M4 will add at least 20 hp, and looks like the BMW is lighter weight with much more turbo torque.

In a straight line, I would bet on the M4, turbo car is usually quicker then NA. Look at the 458 vs. 12C.
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Old 12-21-13, 04:52 PM   #1506
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it seems that Lexus should do 3cly with 4 turbo's for 500hp, or bust.

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Old 12-21-13, 11:56 PM   #1507
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it seems that Lexus should do 3cly with 4 turbo's for 500hp, or bust.

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Reliability and maintenance should be excellent on such an engine.
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Old 12-22-13, 01:05 AM   #1508
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Sorry, but BMW lost hp war this time around. Let's see how those car stack up on the track.
when was the last time bmw win a hp war?
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Old 12-22-13, 06:11 AM   #1509
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Reliability and maintenance should be excellent on such an engine.
we dont care about that anymore, or driveability...or sound... things changed, now we mostly care about having lots of turbo's.
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we dont care about that anymore, or driveability...or sound... things changed, now we mostly care about having lots of turbo's.
Well as long as it pleases the people on autoblog.
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Old 12-22-13, 02:21 PM   #1511
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Reliability and maintenance should be excellent on such an engine.
No need for reliability or handling when you can win the traffic light wars! As long as the engine lets go AFTER the drag race is over, it's fine

That seems to be all anyone cares about these days unfortunately; doesn't matter if it handles like a turd, as long as it has traction off the line and gets to 60 quicker than anyone else.
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Old 12-22-13, 05:38 PM   #1512
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No need for reliability or handling when you can win the traffic light wars! As long as the engine lets go AFTER the drag race is over, it's fine

That seems to be all anyone cares about these days unfortunately; doesn't matter if it handles like a turd, as long as it has traction off the line and gets to 60 quicker than anyone else.
Isn't the super snake a better choice then?
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Old 12-23-13, 09:35 AM   #1513
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No need for reliability or handling when you can win the traffic light wars! As long as the engine lets go AFTER the drag race is over, it's fine

That seems to be all anyone cares about these days unfortunately; doesn't matter if it handles like a turd, as long as it has traction off the line and gets to 60 quicker than anyone else.
i dont think thats the reality, it is just forum wars.

In reality, BRZ and FRS sell like crazy, despite low specs in both handling and 0-60.

It is all about having fun and thats what got them all the mag awards and sales.
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TORRANCE, Calif. – Dec. 23, 2013 – Not even Rudolph’s nose can compare to the striking red paint on the all-new RC Coupe. A more dynamic red exterior paint color is made brighter and with more contrast thanks to an entirely new painting process, using a two-color base of both silver and red. The shiny and bright RC coupe is set to launch in 2014.

The luminous red paint is achieved through a meticulous paint process using four base coats of paint which are then baked twice. Layers of colored and clear coating are used to control some of the color’s reflections and establish a balance between the brightness and depth – two elements that traditionally work against each other.

• For the red exterior, the factory starts with a base coat of silver and then applies a clear coat.
• Then, the clear coat is covered by a translucent red coat, which is then topped with another clear coat.
• The four coats of paint are baked twice to set the color.

As a result, light hitting the paint reflects off the red layer and also off the silver layer below, which adds depth and a metallic highlight to the red coloration. Prior to this new, two-color base process, the factory used base coats with the same color tone (red and red).

The all-new RC Coupe was unveiled at the 2013 Tokyo Motor Show and will be on display at the Lexus space at the 2014 North American International Auto Show in Detroit.
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TORRANCE, Calif. – Dec. 23, 2013 – Not even Rudolph’s nose can compare to the striking red paint on the all-new RC Coupe. A more dynamic red exterior paint color is made brighter and with more contrast thanks to an entirely new painting process, using a two-color base of both silver and red. The shiny and bright RC coupe is set to launch in 2014.

The luminous red paint is achieved through a meticulous paint process using four base coats of paint which are then baked twice. Layers of colored and clear coating are used to control some of the color’s reflections and establish a balance between the brightness and depth – two elements that traditionally work against each other.

• For the red exterior, the factory starts with a base coat of silver and then applies a clear coat.
• Then, the clear coat is covered by a translucent red coat, which is then topped with another clear coat.
• The four coats of paint are baked twice to set the color.

As a result, light hitting the paint reflects off the red layer and also off the silver layer below, which adds depth and a metallic highlight to the red coloration. Prior to this new, two-color base process, the factory used base coats with the same color tone (red and red).

The all-new RC Coupe was unveiled at the 2013 Tokyo Motor Show and will be on display at the Lexus space at the 2014 North American International Auto Show in Detroit.
it's going to be a $%&*# to match these body colors, when need be lol
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