RC-F in Top Gear [22x06] March 1st
03-09-15, 10:07 AM
#256
Anyways, no one can beat Lexus in term of reliability. You can drive a RCF all day long on street and on track and it still runs without breaking down unlike many other performance cars.
Last edited by DaveGS4; 03-09-15 at 10:37 AM. Reason: removed personal commentary.
03-09-15, 11:59 AM
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I like the looks and the fit and finish of the RCF is why I am getting it. I think anyone getting the RCF could get the M3 / M4 if they wanted it's the same price. I am not 18 and could care less about what is fastest to 60, it's the old who's dik is bigger thing.
I sure do see a lot of older Lexus / Toyota's on the road that still look good and are not burning oil. I think the new BMW's are not built to last like they used to be.
I sure do see a lot of older Lexus / Toyota's on the road that still look good and are not burning oil. I think the new BMW's are not built to last like they used to be.
03-09-15, 04:41 PM
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I like the looks and the fit and finish of the RCF is why I am getting it. I think anyone getting the RCF could get the M3 / M4 if they wanted it's the same price. I am not 18 and could care less about what is fastest to 60, it's the old who's dik is bigger thing.
I sure do see a lot of older Lexus / Toyota's on the road that still look good and are not burning oil. I think the new BMW's are not built to last like they used to be.
I sure do see a lot of older Lexus / Toyota's on the road that still look good and are not burning oil. I think the new BMW's are not built to last like they used to be.
03-09-15, 04:46 PM
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03-09-15, 04:51 PM
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I especially love the spiky haired asian guys. They know I live my life a 1/4 mile at a time. 
Not trying to be off topic, but Ryanmcd you're 100% correct, although I didn't get the GT-R for picking up women or men for that matter lol. I thought i was a great performing car which it is.
looking forward to driving the RC-F when you get her.
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03-09-15, 06:15 PM
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I like the looks and the fit and finish of the RCF is why I am getting it. I think anyone getting the RCF could get the M3 / M4 if they wanted it's the same price. I am not 18 and could care less about what is fastest to 60, it's the old who's dik is bigger thing.
I sure do see a lot of older Lexus / Toyota's on the road that still look good and are not burning oil. I think the new BMW's are not built to last like they used to be.
I sure do see a lot of older Lexus / Toyota's on the road that still look good and are not burning oil. I think the new BMW's are not built to last like they used to be.
Lexus are bulletproof. Point blank. I sold my 2nd GS400 that had 240k miles on it and it still ran like a top. The RCF, unless lexus has changed dramatically, will last for 2-300k miles and still be as healthy as the day it rolled outta the showroom. BMW just can't match that track record, unfortunately. They just never feel 'tight' after the first 60 or 70k miles, in my experience.
03-09-15, 06:41 PM
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That's one of the things I'm trying to tell my wife. She's all in on the M4. She's put 190K+ miles on her G37 coupe and we JUST had to change the clutch slave cylinder. That's been her ONLY problem. But if she's expecting the BMW...ANY bmw...to have that kind of reliability, she's crazy.
Lexus are bulletproof. Point blank. I sold my 2nd GS400 that had 240k miles on it and it still ran like a top. The RCF, unless lexus has changed dramatically, will last for 2-300k miles and still be as healthy as the day it rolled outta the showroom. BMW just can't match that track record, unfortunately. They just never feel 'tight' after the first 60 or 70k miles, in my experience.
Lexus are bulletproof. Point blank. I sold my 2nd GS400 that had 240k miles on it and it still ran like a top. The RCF, unless lexus has changed dramatically, will last for 2-300k miles and still be as healthy as the day it rolled outta the showroom. BMW just can't match that track record, unfortunately. They just never feel 'tight' after the first 60 or 70k miles, in my experience.
Ya A BMW with 200k miles is called a M8 because it's 2 M4's. That's why they include the maintenance in the car because if people had to buy not lease and it pay all the maintenance no one would own a BMW, I think like 70-80% are leased.
Also a lot of people in BMW's are what I like to call $20 millionaires, they want to look rich but are 1 flat tire away from being homeless.
03-09-15, 09:13 PM
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That's one of the things I'm trying to tell my wife. She's all in on the M4. She's put 190K+ miles on her G37 coupe and we JUST had to change the clutch slave cylinder. That's been her ONLY problem. But if she's expecting the BMW...ANY bmw...to have that kind of reliability, she's crazy.
Lexus are bulletproof. Point blank. I sold my 2nd GS400 that had 240k miles on it and it still ran like a top. The RCF, unless lexus has changed dramatically, will last for 2-300k miles and still be as healthy as the day it rolled outta the showroom. BMW just can't match that track record, unfortunately. They just never feel 'tight' after the first 60 or 70k miles, in my experience.
Lexus are bulletproof. Point blank. I sold my 2nd GS400 that had 240k miles on it and it still ran like a top. The RCF, unless lexus has changed dramatically, will last for 2-300k miles and still be as healthy as the day it rolled outta the showroom. BMW just can't match that track record, unfortunately. They just never feel 'tight' after the first 60 or 70k miles, in my experience.
i have high confidence an rcf, just like most lexus, will go over 100k miles with little issues in general
03-10-15, 06:21 AM
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lol and you wonder why we end up with trolls...
95% of this thread (and the other review)is or was an attempt to bash BMW and deflect against any negative RCF criticism. Started with fanboy ridiculous claims of superiority and now the truth to be that the cars are equal on any given day have settled in, we start bashing the entire brand with absolutely no one linking to any reference of the M4 having any real mass warranty issues. Go to their site and the majority of posts are of drivers DRIVING their vehicles. I hope that we do start to trend in that direction now that drivers are receiving their vehicles. Would be great if people started showing real world capability (or lack thereof) of the RCF as those of us eagerly (not as much anymore) anticipating the GS-F (GS500) would like to see what our hand me down engine is going to be..
after a decade of wishing.
FYI, Looks like the ceiling is crashing down on BMW only in this section of the internet.
BMW
95% of this thread (and the other review)is or was an attempt to bash BMW and deflect against any negative RCF criticism. Started with fanboy ridiculous claims of superiority and now the truth to be that the cars are equal on any given day have settled in, we start bashing the entire brand with absolutely no one linking to any reference of the M4 having any real mass warranty issues. Go to their site and the majority of posts are of drivers DRIVING their vehicles. I hope that we do start to trend in that direction now that drivers are receiving their vehicles. Would be great if people started showing real world capability (or lack thereof) of the RCF as those of us eagerly (not as much anymore) anticipating the GS-F (GS500) would like to see what our hand me down engine is going to be..
after a decade of wishing.FYI, Looks like the ceiling is crashing down on BMW only in this section of the internet.
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“As in the first three quarters overall, we’ve had a record September with growth in Europe, Asia and the Americas. This increase in sales comes despite external factors continuing to influence a few individual markets,” said Ian Robertson, Member of the Board of Management of BMW AG, Sales and Marketing BMW. “BMW i can celebrate several milestones this month: more than 10,000 BMW i3s have been delivered to customers this year and 341 BMW i8 customers have received delivery of their cars since sales began in the summer. The other new models we have launched in the last 12 months are also selling well and we are confident that the BMW 2 Series Active Tourer, which went on sale in September, will further boost sales. It’s the most dynamic vehicle in its segment and will bring new customers to the BMW brand.”
September saw worldwide sales of BMW brand vehicles grow by 6.1% to total 167,584 vehicles (prev. yr. 158,017). Global sales of the brand in the first three quarters of 2014 rose 9.1% on the same period last year with 1,319,492 vehicles delivered to customers (prev. yr. 1,209,584).
Steady sales growth has been seen across many segments in the first nine months of the year. Sales of the BMW 2 Series Convertible and Coupé total 19,941. The BMW 3 Series saw sales increase 3.7% in the year-to-date (349,930 / prev. yr. 337,544). A total of 81,876 BMW 4 Series vehicles have been delivered to customers this year and the BMW 5 Series has achieved a sales increase of 2.8% in the first three quarters of the year (278,479 / prev. yr. 270,904). The new BMW X5 also continues to enjoy a significant increase in customer interest with sales up 34.2% so far this year (104,997 / prev. yr. 78,247). BMW i sales total 10,540 for the year to date with 10,199 BMW i3s and 341 BMW i8s having been delivered to customers.
September saw MINI brand sales increase compared to the same month last year with a total of 31,871 vehicles delivered to customers (prev. yr. 31,314 / +1.8%). “MINI has achieved its best-ever September which means we remain on course to equal last year’s annual sales,” said Peter Schwarzenbauer, Member of the Board of Management of BMW AG, responsible for MINI, BMW Motorrad, Rolls-Royce Motor Cars and Aftersales. Deliveries of the new generation MINI that was launched in spring this year jumped 18.2% in September (15,337 / prev. yr. 12,977). The year-to-date sales figures for the MINI brand overall are down 7.5% due to the model change (207,529 / prev. yr. 224,282).
Rolls-Royce Motor Cars remains on target for another record year in 2014. The keys to 2,859 Rolls-Royce Phantom, Ghost and Wraith models were handed to customers in the nine-month period from January to September (prev. yr. 2,300 / +24.3%). Rolls-Royce continues to see strong customer demand across all models, including significant orders for the luxury manufacturer’s latest model, Ghost Series II, with first customer cars due to be delivered in Q4 2014.
The upward trend also continues at BMW Motorrad, where a total of 9,991 motorcycles and maxi-scooters (prev. yr. 9,264 / +7.8%) were delivered to customers in September. Sales for the year-to-date are up 7.6%, totaling 100,217 (prev. yr. 93,154). This is the first ever year BMW Motorrad has sold more than 100,000 motorcycles and maxi-scooters in the first three quarters of the year.
The BMW Group achieved an increase in sales in all major sales regions in September; this ongoing positive trend is reflected in the figures for the first three quarters of the year.
Sales of BMW and MINI brand vehicles in Asia totaled 56,429 in September, an increase of 4.5% on the same month last year (prev. yr. 54,014). Year-to-date sales in the region are up 14.2% compared to the same period in 2013, with a total of 481,266 BMWs and MINIs delivered to customers (prev. yr. 421,456). The first three quarters of the year saw sales in Mainland China increase 17.9% (335,863 / prev. yr. 284,964) whilst sales in South Korea also posted double-digit growth, up 13.8% in the same period (33,476 / prev. yr. 29,409).
Increased sales have also been achieved in the Americas, where a total of 37,882 BMW and MINI brand vehicles were delivered to customers in September (prev. yr. 36,889 / +2.7%). This steady increase in sales in the region is reflected in the year-to-date figures, which are up 3.7% on the same period last year (337,077 / prev. yr. 325,078). The USA has been the region’s main growth driver in the first three quarters with sales totaling 275,779 (prev. yr. 262,200 / +5.2%). Sales in Mexico are also growing steadily, up 5.8% in the year-to-date (10,613 / prev. yr. 10,028).
Deliveries of BMW and MINI vehicles in Europe also reached a new high for September with a total of 99,585 units sold (prev. yr. 93,062 / +7.0%). Sales in the region for the first three quarters of 2014 increased by a total of 3.4% (662,836 / prev. yr. 641,183). Almost all markets have seen sales grow in the year-to-date. Customer deliveries in Scandinavia have climbed 11.6% with a total of 30,630 BMWs and MINIs sold so far this year (prev. yr. 27,455). The markets in southern Europe also continue to recover with sales in several countries seeing growth. Deliveries in Spain, for example, are up 11.9% compared with the same period last year (28,393 / prev. yr. 25,374).
The Middle East region continues to be an important growth driver for the BMW Group this year, with the total number of BMWs and MINIs delivered to customers climbing 21.0% to 22,786 in the year-to-date (prev. yr. 18,835). Sales in the region in September were up 20.6%, totaling 2,340 (prev. yr. 1,941).
“As in the first three quarters overall, we’ve had a record September with growth in Europe, Asia and the Americas. This increase in sales comes despite external factors continuing to influence a few individual markets,” said Ian Robertson, Member of the Board of Management of BMW AG, Sales and Marketing BMW. “BMW i can celebrate several milestones this month: more than 10,000 BMW i3s have been delivered to customers this year and 341 BMW i8 customers have received delivery of their cars since sales began in the summer. The other new models we have launched in the last 12 months are also selling well and we are confident that the BMW 2 Series Active Tourer, which went on sale in September, will further boost sales. It’s the most dynamic vehicle in its segment and will bring new customers to the BMW brand.”
September saw worldwide sales of BMW brand vehicles grow by 6.1% to total 167,584 vehicles (prev. yr. 158,017). Global sales of the brand in the first three quarters of 2014 rose 9.1% on the same period last year with 1,319,492 vehicles delivered to customers (prev. yr. 1,209,584).
Steady sales growth has been seen across many segments in the first nine months of the year. Sales of the BMW 2 Series Convertible and Coupé total 19,941. The BMW 3 Series saw sales increase 3.7% in the year-to-date (349,930 / prev. yr. 337,544). A total of 81,876 BMW 4 Series vehicles have been delivered to customers this year and the BMW 5 Series has achieved a sales increase of 2.8% in the first three quarters of the year (278,479 / prev. yr. 270,904). The new BMW X5 also continues to enjoy a significant increase in customer interest with sales up 34.2% so far this year (104,997 / prev. yr. 78,247). BMW i sales total 10,540 for the year to date with 10,199 BMW i3s and 341 BMW i8s having been delivered to customers.
September saw MINI brand sales increase compared to the same month last year with a total of 31,871 vehicles delivered to customers (prev. yr. 31,314 / +1.8%). “MINI has achieved its best-ever September which means we remain on course to equal last year’s annual sales,” said Peter Schwarzenbauer, Member of the Board of Management of BMW AG, responsible for MINI, BMW Motorrad, Rolls-Royce Motor Cars and Aftersales. Deliveries of the new generation MINI that was launched in spring this year jumped 18.2% in September (15,337 / prev. yr. 12,977). The year-to-date sales figures for the MINI brand overall are down 7.5% due to the model change (207,529 / prev. yr. 224,282).
Rolls-Royce Motor Cars remains on target for another record year in 2014. The keys to 2,859 Rolls-Royce Phantom, Ghost and Wraith models were handed to customers in the nine-month period from January to September (prev. yr. 2,300 / +24.3%). Rolls-Royce continues to see strong customer demand across all models, including significant orders for the luxury manufacturer’s latest model, Ghost Series II, with first customer cars due to be delivered in Q4 2014.
The upward trend also continues at BMW Motorrad, where a total of 9,991 motorcycles and maxi-scooters (prev. yr. 9,264 / +7.8%) were delivered to customers in September. Sales for the year-to-date are up 7.6%, totaling 100,217 (prev. yr. 93,154). This is the first ever year BMW Motorrad has sold more than 100,000 motorcycles and maxi-scooters in the first three quarters of the year.
The BMW Group achieved an increase in sales in all major sales regions in September; this ongoing positive trend is reflected in the figures for the first three quarters of the year.
Sales of BMW and MINI brand vehicles in Asia totaled 56,429 in September, an increase of 4.5% on the same month last year (prev. yr. 54,014). Year-to-date sales in the region are up 14.2% compared to the same period in 2013, with a total of 481,266 BMWs and MINIs delivered to customers (prev. yr. 421,456). The first three quarters of the year saw sales in Mainland China increase 17.9% (335,863 / prev. yr. 284,964) whilst sales in South Korea also posted double-digit growth, up 13.8% in the same period (33,476 / prev. yr. 29,409).
Increased sales have also been achieved in the Americas, where a total of 37,882 BMW and MINI brand vehicles were delivered to customers in September (prev. yr. 36,889 / +2.7%). This steady increase in sales in the region is reflected in the year-to-date figures, which are up 3.7% on the same period last year (337,077 / prev. yr. 325,078). The USA has been the region’s main growth driver in the first three quarters with sales totaling 275,779 (prev. yr. 262,200 / +5.2%). Sales in Mexico are also growing steadily, up 5.8% in the year-to-date (10,613 / prev. yr. 10,028).
Deliveries of BMW and MINI vehicles in Europe also reached a new high for September with a total of 99,585 units sold (prev. yr. 93,062 / +7.0%). Sales in the region for the first three quarters of 2014 increased by a total of 3.4% (662,836 / prev. yr. 641,183). Almost all markets have seen sales grow in the year-to-date. Customer deliveries in Scandinavia have climbed 11.6% with a total of 30,630 BMWs and MINIs sold so far this year (prev. yr. 27,455). The markets in southern Europe also continue to recover with sales in several countries seeing growth. Deliveries in Spain, for example, are up 11.9% compared with the same period last year (28,393 / prev. yr. 25,374).
The Middle East region continues to be an important growth driver for the BMW Group this year, with the total number of BMWs and MINIs delivered to customers climbing 21.0% to 22,786 in the year-to-date (prev. yr. 18,835). Sales in the region in September were up 20.6%, totaling 2,340 (prev. yr. 1,941).
03-10-15, 06:33 AM
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Also not about BMW weights, rude generalizations about "people here", Jaguars and personal comments.
Guys, this thread is headed towards getting closed. Let's get back on topic.
vwwtchr, you were asked to exit this thread earlier. Check your PM
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...ml#post8941208
Guys, this thread is headed towards getting closed. Let's get back on topic.
vwwtchr, you were asked to exit this thread earlier. Check your PM
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...ml#post8941208
If you want to discuss suspension of Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear, please do so in the linked thread (not here) ->https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...-top-gear.html
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03-20-15, 10:32 AM
#267
RCF and M4 drag race?
I just got around to watching the episode. ANy one notice during the drag race that the RCF was never manually shifted? I have no idea what they were doing in M4 but no way in hell it destroys the RCF in a drag like that.
THey drove it in grandma mode and wonder why it gets beat to sleep. Pretty sad.
THey drove it in grandma mode and wonder why it gets beat to sleep. Pretty sad.
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