RC F vs M4
#155
Instructor
iTrader: (1)
you might want to read this review here
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._f_first_test/
"We weighed the RC F and it clocks in at a lardy 4040 pounds. For some comparison, the similarly sized and totally targeted BMW M4 weighs 3604 pounds, a 436-pound difference. Before you mount an angry letter-writing campaign against Lexus, know that the AWD Audi RS 5 is just 13 pounds lighter than the RC F, 4027 pounds. Still, why’s a brand-new car so heavy?"
i personally can care less about curb weight, i care more about actual equipped cars
and your statement on porsche (especially the 911) pretty much just discredited most things you say / said like that
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._f_first_test/
"We weighed the RC F and it clocks in at a lardy 4040 pounds. For some comparison, the similarly sized and totally targeted BMW M4 weighs 3604 pounds, a 436-pound difference. Before you mount an angry letter-writing campaign against Lexus, know that the AWD Audi RS 5 is just 13 pounds lighter than the RC F, 4027 pounds. Still, why’s a brand-new car so heavy?"
i personally can care less about curb weight, i care more about actual equipped cars
and your statement on porsche (especially the 911) pretty much just discredited most things you say / said like that
#159
Lexus Test Driver
Whatever happened to this comparo. Never saw any publication on it
#160
Like it or not, stock for stock, the new RCF will eat our ISFs up on the road and track. Our cars do not corner like this new beast, with or without the extra pounds. Just watch the Nurburgring videos on YouTube with pro drivers. The car eats up the asphalt.
Sure, slide cornering is lots of fun, but it is also slow. If our cars did not slide, we'd be in trouble.
I love my 2012 ISF, but this is a leap forward for Lexus. I stopped for a pop on the way home. Someone just bought the IS F-sport. The owner was thrilled with the car. Why? The driver has bought into the spirit of the F brand and was praising the new RCF. I met another last week. They are excited by the feel of the trickle down technology. They are getting a piece of the pie, and this is why the Fs exist.
The new generation of buyer is looking for accessible power versus obscene power that will rarely if ever be tapped. What good is a car that packs excessive punch that is never tapped?
I thought hard about a Porsche turbo and came to the conclusion that it would die a slow death from inadequate use.
Hey, if you want a road rocket, there are plenty of exotics that will shake your joints. I want power that I can use and a car that inspires confidence.
To each his own...this beast performs at a level that is well above my skill set. I am not a pro driver.
#161
Jat,
Like it or not, stock for stock, the new RCF will eat our ISFs up on the road and track. Our cars do not corner like this new beast, with or without the extra pounds. Just watch the Nurburgring videos on YouTube with pro drivers. The car eats up the asphalt.
Sure, slide cornering is lots of fun, but it is also slow. If our cars did not slide, we'd be in trouble.
I love my 2012 ISF, but this is a leap forward for Lexus. I stopped for a pop on the way home. Someone just bought the IS F-sport. The owner was thrilled with the car. Why? The driver has bought into the spirit of the F brand and was praising the new RCF. I met another last week. They are excited by the feel of the trickle down technology. They are getting a piece of the pie, and this is why the Fs exist.
The new generation of buyer is looking for accessible power versus obscene power that will rarely if ever be tapped. What good is a car that packs excessive punch that is never tapped?
I thought hard about a Porsche turbo and came to the conclusion that it would die a slow death from inadequate use.
Hey, if you want a road rocket, there are plenty of exotics that will shake your joints. I want power that I can use and a car that inspires confidence.
To each his own...this beast performs at a level that is well above my skill set. I am not a pro driver.
Like it or not, stock for stock, the new RCF will eat our ISFs up on the road and track. Our cars do not corner like this new beast, with or without the extra pounds. Just watch the Nurburgring videos on YouTube with pro drivers. The car eats up the asphalt.
Sure, slide cornering is lots of fun, but it is also slow. If our cars did not slide, we'd be in trouble.
I love my 2012 ISF, but this is a leap forward for Lexus. I stopped for a pop on the way home. Someone just bought the IS F-sport. The owner was thrilled with the car. Why? The driver has bought into the spirit of the F brand and was praising the new RCF. I met another last week. They are excited by the feel of the trickle down technology. They are getting a piece of the pie, and this is why the Fs exist.
The new generation of buyer is looking for accessible power versus obscene power that will rarely if ever be tapped. What good is a car that packs excessive punch that is never tapped?
I thought hard about a Porsche turbo and came to the conclusion that it would die a slow death from inadequate use.
Hey, if you want a road rocket, there are plenty of exotics that will shake your joints. I want power that I can use and a car that inspires confidence.
To each his own...this beast performs at a level that is well above my skill set. I am not a pro driver.
#162
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (20)
I stopped for a pop on the way home. Someone just bought the IS F-sport. The owner was thrilled with the car. Why? The driver has bought into the spirit of the F brand and was praising the new RCF. I met another last week. They are excited by the feel of the trickle down technology.
my friend just bought a used kia optima. he was thrilled with the car as well, lol, that proves nothing. any new car, a person would be thrilled.
#164
"Lexus USA marketer Jim Lee announced on Instagram today that the IS F CCS-R that raced at Pikes Peak and the 25 Hours of Thunderhill was actually equipped with the new 5.0L V8 engine found in the RC F– he even posted a photo of the engine swap."
http://lexusenthusiast.com/2014/01/2...c-f-v8-engine/
#165
Lexus Test Driver
Well, the Mustang GT is not something Lexus needs to be too worried about
While the Lexus was put into a limp mode for journalists, Mustang GT had no such handicap and put down these numbers
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz3Dg63YSBI
2015 Ford Mustang GT
BASE PRICE $32,925
PRICE AS TESTED $46,380
VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, RWD, 4-pass, 2-door coupe
ENGINE 5.0L/435-hp/400-lb-ft DOHC 32-valve V-8
TRANSMISSION 6-speed manual
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 3814 lb (54/46%)
WHEELBASE 107.1 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 188.3 x 75.4 x 54.9 in
0-60 MPH 4.4 sec
QUARTER MILE 12.8 sec @ 112.2 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 107 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.96 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 24.7 sec @ 0.84 g (avg)
EPA CITY/HWY/COMB FUEL ECON 15/25/19 mpg
ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY 225/135 kW-hrs/100 miles
CO2 EMISSIONS, COMB 1.06 lb/mile
While the Lexus was put into a limp mode for journalists, Mustang GT had no such handicap and put down these numbers
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz3Dg63YSBI
2015 Ford Mustang GT
BASE PRICE $32,925
PRICE AS TESTED $46,380
VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, RWD, 4-pass, 2-door coupe
ENGINE 5.0L/435-hp/400-lb-ft DOHC 32-valve V-8
TRANSMISSION 6-speed manual
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 3814 lb (54/46%)
WHEELBASE 107.1 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 188.3 x 75.4 x 54.9 in
0-60 MPH 4.4 sec
QUARTER MILE 12.8 sec @ 112.2 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 107 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.96 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 24.7 sec @ 0.84 g (avg)
EPA CITY/HWY/COMB FUEL ECON 15/25/19 mpg
ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY 225/135 kW-hrs/100 miles
CO2 EMISSIONS, COMB 1.06 lb/mile