RC F automotive reviews thread
11-10-14, 06:15 AM
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11-10-14, 09:52 AM
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It didn't feel heavy because its got a 470-horsepower engine and plenty of agility--it's an F.
Enjoy the new beast and report back on your experiences!
11-11-14, 07:48 AM
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11-11-14, 08:40 AM
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So R&T performance car of the year shows RC-F cracking the 4.0 seconds 0-60 mph with a 3.9 seconds.
Many people used to vehemently oppose RC-F being able to get under 4.0 seconds for 0-60 mph, but it did. However, the 1/4 mile is still 12.7 seconds@113 mph (compared to 13.0 seconds for Mustang GT).
The M3 did it in 12.3 seconds@114 mph. Interesting thing is, the RC-F with a time of 56.08 seconds was 0.5 seconds slower than the M3's 55.53 seconds, but the a lot faster the BMW M4's 57.47 seconds or the Camaro 1LE's 56.83 seconds or Mustang GT's 56.81.
Unfortunately, this looks like Lexus gave them the RC-F with the detuned ECU that does not allow burn-outs
A similar experience, albeit with better seats and the excellent Mark Levinson stereo, should be available in the Lexus RC F. Unfortunately, it isn't, thanks to a cowardly stability-control computer that never stops nannying and can't be disengaged. The number of ways in which the Lexus will sabotage your lap is legion. I take a rerun, because I initially can't get the car to shift at redline, permit minor slip angles, and/or play Guns N' Roses without warning me that my feelings were at risk. "It won't do a burnout!" Cammisa moans. It also won't permit any of the tomfoolery for which its IS F predecessor was famous.
Many people used to vehemently oppose RC-F being able to get under 4.0 seconds for 0-60 mph, but it did. However, the 1/4 mile is still 12.7 seconds@113 mph (compared to 13.0 seconds for Mustang GT).
The M3 did it in 12.3 seconds@114 mph. Interesting thing is, the RC-F with a time of 56.08 seconds was 0.5 seconds slower than the M3's 55.53 seconds, but the a lot faster the BMW M4's 57.47 seconds or the Camaro 1LE's 56.83 seconds or Mustang GT's 56.81.
Unfortunately, this looks like Lexus gave them the RC-F with the detuned ECU that does not allow burn-outs
A similar experience, albeit with better seats and the excellent Mark Levinson stereo, should be available in the Lexus RC F. Unfortunately, it isn't, thanks to a cowardly stability-control computer that never stops nannying and can't be disengaged. The number of ways in which the Lexus will sabotage your lap is legion. I take a rerun, because I initially can't get the car to shift at redline, permit minor slip angles, and/or play Guns N' Roses without warning me that my feelings were at risk. "It won't do a burnout!" Cammisa moans. It also won't permit any of the tomfoolery for which its IS F predecessor was famous.
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11-11-14, 09:24 AM
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^^ Maybe they just don't F'n know how to Fully Turn OFF the "TRAC"... 
I witnessed some of this silliness with those ”Lexus Running of the Bulls” drivers trying to do donuts with all the nanos still on...
~ Joe Z
I witnessed some of this silliness with those ”Lexus Running of the Bulls” drivers trying to do donuts with all the nanos still on...
~ Joe Z
11-11-14, 09:26 AM
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So R&T performance car of the year shows RC-F cracking the 4.0 seconds 0-60 mph with a 3.9 seconds.
Many people used to vehemently oppose RC-F being able to get under 4.0 seconds for 0-60 mph, but it did. However, the 1/4 mile is still 12.7 seconds@113 mph (compared to 13.0 seconds for Mustang GT).
The M3 did it in 12.3 seconds@114 mph. Interesting thing is, the RC-F with a time of 56.08 seconds was 0.5 seconds slower than the M3's 55.53 seconds, but the a lot faster the BMW M4's 57.47 seconds or the Camaro 1LE's 56.83 seconds or Mustang GT's 56.81.
Unfortunately, this looks like Lexus gave them the RC-F with the detuned ECU that does not allow burn-outs[/QUOTE]
I am not surprised by the 3.9 time.
So much for arguments the muscle car can't run with the M4. This is DEFINITELY a driver's race--what it should be!
The car will run a 12.5 and better--it just will take a good driver and a car that is not DETUNED. );-) Given the timing for the R&T article, Lexus obviously did not have much of a choice. Again, it's all going to come out during the next couple of months as production BEASTS pounce the streets.
Apparently, the RCF WILL be heard.
Many people used to vehemently oppose RC-F being able to get under 4.0 seconds for 0-60 mph, but it did. However, the 1/4 mile is still 12.7 seconds@113 mph (compared to 13.0 seconds for Mustang GT).
The M3 did it in 12.3 seconds@114 mph. Interesting thing is, the RC-F with a time of 56.08 seconds was 0.5 seconds slower than the M3's 55.53 seconds, but the a lot faster the BMW M4's 57.47 seconds or the Camaro 1LE's 56.83 seconds or Mustang GT's 56.81.
Unfortunately, this looks like Lexus gave them the RC-F with the detuned ECU that does not allow burn-outs[/QUOTE]
I am not surprised by the 3.9 time.
So much for arguments the muscle car can't run with the M4. This is DEFINITELY a driver's race--what it should be!
The car will run a 12.5 and better--it just will take a good driver and a car that is not DETUNED. );-) Given the timing for the R&T article, Lexus obviously did not have much of a choice. Again, it's all going to come out during the next couple of months as production BEASTS pounce the streets.
Apparently, the RCF WILL be heard.
11-11-14, 01:23 PM
#492
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Another interesting thing is, they seem to dislike the M3. They did not like how unpredictable the power is:
The M3 is the only car to actually scare me at the Motown Mile. Going around the fast final turn, the torque spikes and sends me into a long, lazy, 100-mph slide that I don't recover until well down the front straight. Forget this being a German Trans Am; it's a German Corvette. "This car is nightmarish to control under power," concurs Cammisa. "It's so much work, and there's no joy to be had as a result." Having driven the M3 before, on a larger track, I suggest that it needs a bigger venue to shine. Cammisa agree
The M3 is the only car to actually scare me at the Motown Mile. Going around the fast final turn, the torque spikes and sends me into a long, lazy, 100-mph slide that I don't recover until well down the front straight. Forget this being a German Trans Am; it's a German Corvette. "This car is nightmarish to control under power," concurs Cammisa. "It's so much work, and there's no joy to be had as a result." Having driven the M3 before, on a larger track, I suggest that it needs a bigger venue to shine. Cammisa agree
11-11-14, 04:18 PM
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So R&T has disproven key performance measurements in this article...no big surprise. And yet, they were driving early, non-production vehicles.
And when the carbons hit the road on March, there will be even greater gains. The editorial coverage on this car has been very screwed up. And, I regret to say, Lexus fueled a lot of this confusion. The launch was too early.
The great news is there is no rerun here. Journalistic mumbo jumbo.
And when the carbons hit the road on March, there will be even greater gains. The editorial coverage on this car has been very screwed up. And, I regret to say, Lexus fueled a lot of this confusion. The launch was too early.
The great news is there is no rerun here. Journalistic mumbo jumbo.
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11-11-14, 04:26 PM
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The new F is as fast as the M4 and apparently can beat it on the track. It's in the least a true drivers race, and this explains the ambiguity.