RC F automotive reviews thread
10-29-14, 11:17 AM
#362
Lexus Champion
"Dynamically its not on par with the M4" "It has lower performance numbers" "it comes up a little bit short" "its not as playful"... all within the first 4 minutes of the video. It screamed bmw-bias from the get go. Then the track times were nearly identical and it becomes more apparent that either the reviewer was slanted or he just didnt get to explore all the RC F has to offer.
10-29-14, 11:45 AM
#363
Lexus Test Driver
3/10th of a second makes it a driver's race. Don't believe all the negative propaganda about the RC-F's weight and torque deficit : It very well may beat an M4 on the track. And it was obviously more comfortable and less tiring to drive than the M4 which appeared to be a handful.
I suspect that over multiple laps, an M4 would fatigue the driver more and cause him to lose concentration and over several laps, the RC-F would post faster and more consistent times.
I suspect that over multiple laps, an M4 would fatigue the driver more and cause him to lose concentration and over several laps, the RC-F would post faster and more consistent times.
The track is a momentum and flow track so at high speed race tracks where momentum and flow is more important, both RC-F and M4 are evenly matched. In slow and tight race tracks (or auto crossing), the M4 might have an advantage because of better weight distribution.
The 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile are simply because the RC-F does not allow aggressive launches and starting speed is much lower than what the M4's DCT allows. The figure 8 is merely two slaloms put together so it measures slow speed cornering, which obviously would go to M4 because of more even weight distribution.
10-29-14, 11:59 AM
#364
All this talk about weight and soft suspension etc. etc. and its only 3/10ths of a second slower around a track? This difference is dependent on the driver and conditions at a particular time, so its fair to say they are even at this point.
Idk how a person does not go for the RC-F especially when factoring in reliability? I know people dont like to hear that myself included but reliability and interior and all else factored in, the RC-F wins. I just don't like the front end or maybe its the white that makes the front end look hideous. I've seen the car in obsidian black and it looks batmanish.
I think this video helps the RC-F rather than hurt it by losing to the M4 in comparison made by biased Motortrend.
Paul
Idk how a person does not go for the RC-F especially when factoring in reliability? I know people dont like to hear that myself included but reliability and interior and all else factored in, the RC-F wins. I just don't like the front end or maybe its the white that makes the front end look hideous. I've seen the car in obsidian black and it looks batmanish.
I think this video helps the RC-F rather than hurt it by losing to the M4 in comparison made by biased Motortrend.
Paul
10-29-14, 12:15 PM
#366
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
3/10th of a second makes it a driver's race. Don't believe all the negative propaganda about the RC-F's weight and torque deficit : It very well may beat an M4 on the track. And it was obviously more comfortable and less tiring to drive than the M4 which appeared to be a handful.
I suspect that over multiple laps, an M4 would fatigue the driver more and cause him to lose concentration and over several laps, the RC-F would post faster and more consistent times.
I suspect that over multiple laps, an M4 would fatigue the driver more and cause him to lose concentration and over several laps, the RC-F would post faster and more consistent times.
10-29-14, 12:23 PM
#367
Lead Lap
It is funny how on the long straight, RC-F hit 115 mph and the M4 hit 117 mph. That is almost neck and neck. Higher speed acceleration in both cars are remarkably similar.
The track is a momentum and flow track so at high speed race tracks where momentum and flow is more important, both RC-F and M4 are evenly matched. In slow and tight race tracks (or auto crossing), the M4 might have an advantage because of better weight distribution.
The 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile are simply because the RC-F does not allow aggressive launches and starting speed is much lower than what the M4's DCT allows. The figure 8 is merely two slaloms put together so it measures slow speed cornering, which obviously would go to M4 because of more even weight distribution.
The track is a momentum and flow track so at high speed race tracks where momentum and flow is more important, both RC-F and M4 are evenly matched. In slow and tight race tracks (or auto crossing), the M4 might have an advantage because of better weight distribution.
The 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile are simply because the RC-F does not allow aggressive launches and starting speed is much lower than what the M4's DCT allows. The figure 8 is merely two slaloms put together so it measures slow speed cornering, which obviously would go to M4 because of more even weight distribution.
10-29-14, 12:32 PM
#369
Lexus Test Driver
I posted this in the reviews thread earlier today.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...-thread-9.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...-thread-9.html
Mods can you please merge this?
p.s. M4 and RC-F were literally neck and neck on the race track. HUGE win for the RC-F. The cars are evenly matched around a race track.
10-29-14, 01:45 PM
#371
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterSkiz View Post
M4 crapped all over that RC-F.
It was actually the inverse. 
It was 3 tenths of a second difference!
The RCF packs quite a mighty punch.
It is quite an engineering accomplishment to take on Germany's best.
Originally Posted by MisterSkiz View Post
M4 crapped all over that RC-F.
It was actually the inverse. It was 3 tenths of a second difference!
The RCF packs quite a mighty punch.
It is quite an engineering accomplishment to take on Germany's best.
10-29-14, 02:24 PM
#372
Lexus Test Driver
All that talk about the "M4 will destroy the RC-F around the track" by Bimmer forums "visitors" in the other thread turned out to be all smoke and mirrors.
This video proves RC-F goes toe-to-toe with the M4 on the race track. Both are evenly matched on a fast high power race track. Even in the straights, the RC-F was accelerating at the same rate as the M4.
In small, tight and slow tracks, the M4 might have an advantage because of less weight/less understeer, but those are not meant for high horsepower cars like these anyways.
This video proves RC-F goes toe-to-toe with the M4 on the race track. Both are evenly matched on a fast high power race track. Even in the straights, the RC-F was accelerating at the same rate as the M4.
In small, tight and slow tracks, the M4 might have an advantage because of less weight/less understeer, but those are not meant for high horsepower cars like these anyways.
10-29-14, 02:39 PM
#374
I have reconsidered and will add the RC-F to the top of my list after this review. The 3/10s winning advantage is too close and I will call it a driver's race between cars.
Performance and looks! Yeah baby..
Performance and looks! Yeah baby..
Last edited by Lexura1414; 10-29-14 at 02:49 PM.
