Motortrend Interview: F vs. //M Engineers Responses
03-27-14, 03:48 PM
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Perhaps some 911 inspiration injected into the RC-F?
05-05-14, 11:26 AM
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2 different engineering philosophies. Perhaps the best is that the consumer will have a choice on how to spend their hard earn cash.
05-27-14, 06:10 AM
#21
Biermann: That is a hard to answer question because I think we need to cut this in slices for segments, you know? But the best one would be the M1 successor -- if there were a successor.
What's the best car?
- A car that doesn't exist, but it's definitely a BMW.
Can't believe he answered like that. It's embarrassing to BMW. At least just name a model that is already produced and let the readers disagree. But to name a hypothetical BMW... it's just arrogance and stupidity beyond belief.
I actually respect the Lexus guy even more because he could have said the LFA just to be a company man. Big respect for him there.
05-27-14, 06:58 AM
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Agreed.
Agreed.
I wonder what the interviewer's face looked like when this guy had the nerve to give the dumbest answer possible to this question.
What's the best car?
- A car that doesn't exist, but it's definitely a BMW.
Can't believe he answered like that. It's embarrassing to BMW. At least just name a model that is already produced and let the readers disagree. But to name a hypothetical BMW... it's just arrogance and stupidity beyond belief.
I actually respect the Lexus guy even more because he could have said the LFA just to be a company man. Big respect for him there.
What's the best car?
- A car that doesn't exist, but it's definitely a BMW.
Can't believe he answered like that. It's embarrassing to BMW. At least just name a model that is already produced and let the readers disagree. But to name a hypothetical BMW... it's just arrogance and stupidity beyond belief.
I actually respect the Lexus guy even more because he could have said the LFA just to be a company man. Big respect for him there.
05-27-14, 05:40 PM
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Biermann sounds like a business man who is just marketing the Bimmer blah blah blah while Yaguchi sounds like a real car enthusiast who just gives direct honest answers.
I really love the part where Yaguchi reply "No benchmark,... I want to create what I want"! That is what the BOSS says
I really love the part where Yaguchi reply "No benchmark,... I want to create what I want"! That is what the BOSS says
05-27-14, 05:53 PM
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Talking about production based street legal race cars. Porsche 918, Nissan GTR, Lexus LFA, and Porsche 911 are on the top 10 list in the Nurburgring lap time.
Where is the Bimmer opps, the M3 GTS is on #66 lol and they claim the best car is M1 where it doesn't even exist.
http://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-t...times-top-100/
Also, RC F is track proven in Fuji Speedway and nailed #2,3 and 5 position while again GTR is #1 according to the source https://www.clublexus.com/articles/n...i-speedway.php
Where is the Bimmer
opps, the M3 GTS is on #66 lol and they claim the best car is M1 where it doesn't even exist. http://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-t...times-top-100/
Also, RC F is track proven in Fuji Speedway and nailed #2,3 and 5 position while again GTR is #1 according to the source https://www.clublexus.com/articles/n...i-speedway.php
05-28-14, 09:01 AM
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Biermann: I need to understand more about the technology [Lexus] put into it. If [RC F] is just another IS F with a big engine, that would not make a competitor to an M3. I can only imagine that, for their customers, [5.0-liter V-8 and eight-speed automatic] is the right way to go. That would definitely not be the right way to go for our customers. We have kind of a race car engine -- the character of our engine is almost like a race car engine. Very precise, although it's a turbo, but it's very responsive and it revs up to 7600 rpm. Very sharp. And it's a car for the track.
What a jackass...an imperious moron that's drinking his own BMW Kool-Aid.
BMW knows now, after the RCF reveal, that they chose poorly with the engine selection, and I expect this to be reflected in the press that will follow once the RCF spec is out and sufficient miles have been driven by the media.
What a jackass...an imperious moron that's drinking his own BMW Kool-Aid. BMW knows now, after the RCF reveal, that they chose poorly with the engine selection, and I expect this to be reflected in the press that will follow once the RCF spec is out and sufficient miles have been driven by the media.
05-28-14, 10:14 AM
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Lexus Test Driver
BMW seriously underestimated the backlash from hardcore BMW loyalists regarding the **** poor job they did on the engine. Most of their core audience who are the M fanatics are furious right now.
They saved billions of dollars in R&D by using a regular 3-series N55 as a base engine to derive this engine from, but did not know how badly it will hurt the M3 brand.
They saved billions of dollars in R&D by using a regular 3-series N55 as a base engine to derive this engine from, but did not know how badly it will hurt the M3 brand.
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05-28-14, 09:22 PM
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Biermann: I need to understand more about the technology [Lexus] put into it. If [RC F] is just another IS F with a big engine, that would not make a competitor to an M3. I can only imagine that, for their customers, [5.0-liter V-8 and eight-speed automatic] is the right way to go. That would definitely not be the right way to go for our customers. We have kind of a race car engine -- the character of our engine is almost like a race car engine. Very precise, although it's a turbo, but it's very responsive and it revs up to 7600 rpm. Very sharp. And it's a car for the track
I even remember when I was buying my GS years ago, when I was car shopping and noted that I could get a GS with navigation for less than the 5-Series, the BMW salesman said something like, "well people who drive BMWs are more focused on the driving experience than navigation." LOL. Then he asked me what if they get a Garmin and hardwire it into the car for me for free. I was like thanks, but no thanks and went back to Lexus and bought the GS.
05-29-14, 09:51 AM
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Hahaha, that worths a good laugh. I was shopping around like that before and I don't know why Benz and Bimmer dealership sale people tend to downgrade the Lexus brand somehow. 
I was shopping around like that before and I don't know why Benz and Bimmer dealership sale people tend to downgrade the Lexus brand somehow. Every time I went into a BMW or Mercedes dealership to look at a car, as soon as they find out I drive a Lexus, this is almost exactly the type of B.S. they start spewing. Almost as if they want to shame me into buying a BMW or Merc.
I even remember when I was buying my GS years ago, when I was car shopping and noted that I could get a GS with navigation for less than the 5-Series, the BMW salesman said something like, "well people who drive BMWs are more focused on the driving experience than navigation." LOL. Then he asked me what if they get a Garmin and hardwire it into the car for me for free. I was like thanks, but no thanks and went back to Lexus and bought the GS.
I even remember when I was buying my GS years ago, when I was car shopping and noted that I could get a GS with navigation for less than the 5-Series, the BMW salesman said something like, "well people who drive BMWs are more focused on the driving experience than navigation." LOL. Then he asked me what if they get a Garmin and hardwire it into the car for me for free. I was like thanks, but no thanks and went back to Lexus and bought the GS.