natnut

As if a BMW/Audi/MB forum would be any better. Fanboys exist on both sides of the divide. Your sanctimony is misplaced. If anything, German car fanboys are the most one-eyed internet denizens around.

ImportISF

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I'm not doubting the M4's performance, just sharing what I initially thought of the M4's terrible exhaust sound, you can't tell me that car sounds better than a V8. Especially since I love the high revving V8 in the E92 M3 which sounds 10x better than the M4..I was close to pulling the trigger on one before finding a better deal on a C63

ImportISF

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TheBatman

LOL @ that M4 exhaust. Can't believe it sounds THAT bad.

Diesel350

That M4 sounds like my lawnmower.

s4play

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You are too fast to stereotype, I'm a huge BMW M-fan but also appreciate other brands including Audi, Fiat, Alfa, or whatever you want to fill in the blank here. I just don't jump on the Lexus bandwagon everytime they make a car. I love the ISF, but I feel the RC-F is nothing special out of the box.


Youtube is great for sharing funny home videos but when it comes to cars and exhaust notes, I reserve judgement until I hear it in person. The ISF stock exhaust sucked, with the aftermarket support it was a worthy sound comparable to a v8 R8 in stock form.

The M4 sounds kind of weak from the video but nothing an aftermarket Akrapovic won't solve I'm sure. BMW has a huge aftermarket base so this is really not an issue. If you like the RC-F fine that is your choice but to talk down about another car based on a video just makes you look dumb.

Of course there are fanbois on every forum, no denying that but there are some of us who prefer to experience the car ourselves before getting all worked up.

FSportIS

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As being as objective as possible without jumping on bandwagon on any side. Just show records without insert "opinion".

Just a question, has the M4 (Not M3) been proven on any track? Please show the records.

The RCF have track proven records below:
1. Lexus IS F CCS-R at the 2013 25 Hours of Thunderhill.
Results: 4th in Class (the fastest class at Thunderhill) 5th Overall

2. RCF took 2nd, 3rd, and 5th place at Fuji Speedway

RCF prototype is also tested on Nurburgring.

05RollaXRS

Read the M engineer vs RC-F engineer's responses of the other brand's car and then report back.

Regarding the exhaust, an aftermarket exhaust can only do so much. Being a turbo engine, the engine is tuned that way. An Akrapovic exhaust will merely make a garbage sounding car sound a little better. Nothing more and nothing less. It will not do miracles since the engine's tuning characteristics determine how the exhaust would sound. Check out the 1M videos with Akrapovic exhaust and it still sounds mediocre at best.

Certainly nothing close to this:

ISF001

HAHA...);-)). It really does sound terrible. Leave it to the M masterminds to mess that up.

dseag2

LOL, did anyone else hear the guy say "It sounds like the Prius"?

s4play

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Ok at work my speakers aren't that great but now that I'm home....

From those two videos, the RCF does sound much nicer

It's ok when the car does finally arrive I'm sure my dealer will give me a call for a test drive. I'm just not in the market for another 2-door sports coupe at this time, too bad Lexus did not do a 4-door version.

To me the RCF doesn't fill any particular void in my garage. It's a nice 2-door touring car but certainly not a sports car, nor is it a family car. To be fair neither is the M4.

C'mon Lexus time to build the GS-F or a new IS-F!

ISF001

The GS-F is in the works...I would expect another to pay an additional $10k over the $80k for the RC-F.

s4play

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That is not really an issue, $90k puts the GSF well under the M5's MSRP of $105k and to play in the Panamara GTS, the entry fee is in the $120k range.

I think as long as Lexus builds the GS-F with the right parts and build quality they always do and price the car at $90k-100k range I think they will have a solid vote from me.


Side-note we saw a black LF-A at the local dealer while he was shopping for an IS and damn that thing looks amazing! Dealer only wanted like $395k according to the sticker

LexFather

Guys s4play is a cool dude and has owned a vast range of cars including an IS F previously.... be nice

I'm back and forth with the RC F as the Z06 just seems amazing.... (I know apples to oranges)....

s4play

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thanks Father Lex!

Are you planning to paint the RC-F in yellow, that would be a sweet combo and I know you will do her proud. Vette is nice but won't be as rare for sure and unless you are over 60 it's too old of a car for you....