Lexus RC F vs BMW M4 side by side pics
05-08-14, 08:34 AM
#166
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I would not be surprised. Lots of 335 owners blew their engines and had HPFP, limp mode issues due to overheating with JB tuning. However, maybe someone will crack the encryption eventually.
05-10-14, 11:08 AM
#167
Lexus Test Driver
One thing is for sure, RC-F will OWN the M4/M3 in the sound department.
It sounds like absolute cr*p. There are 4 cylinder engines that cost a fraction of this car that sound million times better.
It sounds like absolute cr*p. There are 4 cylinder engines that cost a fraction of this car that sound million times better.
05-14-14, 06:51 PM
#171
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BMW M4 lost to the old C63 quite badly. LOL
The E92/E90 M3 used to beat the C63 in every single comparison and this all-new one cannot even beat the old and outgoing model. BMW blew it big time on this M4. This is the perfect opportunity for the RC-F to become the new benchmark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAaJRIg63kM#t=468
The E92/E90 M3 used to beat the C63 in every single comparison and this all-new one cannot even beat the old and outgoing model. BMW blew it big time on this M4. This is the perfect opportunity for the RC-F to become the new benchmark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAaJRIg63kM#t=468
Last edited by 05RollaXRS; 05-14-14 at 06:56 PM.
05-14-14, 07:31 PM
#172
Really makes the M4 sound dull. Put your foot down once in this thing and it just rockets forwards and makes the most lovely noise. Noise is important in a car like this and defines a car in a way. Lovely steering.
05-14-14, 07:48 PM
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05-14-14, 08:46 PM
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I don't know what kind of rabbit they can pull out of their hat to fix such a huge blunder.
It is a mere pale shadow of its former self
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwOOcg_rBSI
05-15-14, 06:44 AM
#179
The more I read M4 reviews, the more it seems like "the ultimate 435i" instead of something truly special like we are used to with M cars.
I am not picking on the Bimmer - BMW has done a great job - but over the last several years, it just seems that we've seen M turn it's back on true performance enthusiasts and go with a softer, more practical approach. This M4 seems very much to be that type of car - on paper, it checks all the right boxes but in person, it seems "unspecial" in a way.
I know that downsizing and forced induction are the way of the future, but that review is a very good example of how there is just no replacement for displacement in performance cars like this.
I am not picking on the Bimmer - BMW has done a great job - but over the last several years, it just seems that we've seen M turn it's back on true performance enthusiasts and go with a softer, more practical approach. This M4 seems very much to be that type of car - on paper, it checks all the right boxes but in person, it seems "unspecial" in a way.
I know that downsizing and forced induction are the way of the future, but that review is a very good example of how there is just no replacement for displacement in performance cars like this.
05-15-14, 06:59 AM
#180
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I saw a poster on the M3 forums describe the F80 m4 like this : " An upgraded 335i with an M badge."
Sounds about right
Chassis? Just a 3 series body with suspension upgrades and bracing--even the body shape looks so similar to the 3 series sedan. Engine? A beefed up 335i engine. Everything that previously made an M car special has been stripped away. It doesn't even have the distinction of having a V8 to differentiate from the run-of-the mill entry level BMW sedan.
At least the RC-F body looks so distinct from the regular IS sedan, you'd be hard pressed to tell they were from similar platforms. And no one could ever accuse the RC-F of sharing engine similarities with the V6 IS350.
Sounds about right
Chassis? Just a 3 series body with suspension upgrades and bracing--even the body shape looks so similar to the 3 series sedan. Engine? A beefed up 335i engine. Everything that previously made an M car special has been stripped away. It doesn't even have the distinction of having a V8 to differentiate from the run-of-the mill entry level BMW sedan.
At least the RC-F body looks so distinct from the regular IS sedan, you'd be hard pressed to tell they were from similar platforms. And no one could ever accuse the RC-F of sharing engine similarities with the V6 IS350.
