Lexus RC F vs BMW M4 side by side pics
04-07-14, 08:33 PM
#136
Lexus Test Driver
Umm I don't get it - yes but WITHOUT the CCB Brakes both the M3 and M4 are nowhere close to 90k!!! 
That was my point.
- That one option is over 8k.
- RCF has no such option even available.
- Lets compare Apples to Apples.
That was my point.- That one option is over 8k.
- RCF has no such option even available.
- Lets compare Apples to Apples.
04-07-14, 08:36 PM
#137
Lexus Test Driver
I like both as well but prefer the RCF but your comment of 90k price was misconstrued by the CCB cost.
04-07-14, 10:16 PM
#139
Man, all of you boys need to just play nice!
He already said he likes both cars - any Lexus owner can't deny the M3's an amazing machine too. Just because you may/may not own one is besides the point.
I loved my IS-F, M3, but at the same time respect the Audi. Life is great when you can afford to have these choices.
Just because I am an Audi owner, does not make me look down on Ferrari or Lambo. All are equal cars which each have it's own merits.
I still think Lexus needs a 4-door sedan since the RC-F is a "glass half empty" issue for me.
He already said he likes both cars - any Lexus owner can't deny the M3's an amazing machine too. Just because you may/may not own one is besides the point.
I loved my IS-F, M3, but at the same time respect the Audi. Life is great when you can afford to have these choices.
Just because I am an Audi owner, does not make me look down on Ferrari or Lambo. All are equal cars which each have it's own merits.
I still think Lexus needs a 4-door sedan since the RC-F is a "glass half empty" issue for me.
04-08-14, 05:19 AM
#140
funny how in order to get backup camera and keyless access for the M they lumped those into a $4000 package, dual clutch $2900, LED headlights $1900, Extended Leather interior $3500, 19" wheels $1200. Most of those are standard on the RC (8spd is just as fast as the DCT). Typical german car nickel and diming.
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; 04-08-14 at 05:23 AM.
04-08-14, 07:12 AM
#141
Racer
funny how in order to get backup camera and keyless access for the M they lumped those into a $4000 package, dual clutch $2900, LED headlights $1900, Extended Leather interior $3500, 19" wheels $1200. Most of those are standard on the RC (8spd is just as fast as the DCT). Typical german car nickel and diming.
04-08-14, 07:17 AM
#142
Shifts in 0.1 Second and Downshift Throttle Blipping
New hydraulic-control technology allows the IS F 8-Speed Sport Direct Shift transmission to perform on par with manual transmissions without sacrificing the smoothness of a torque-converter automatic. In M mode, upshifts are executed in just one-tenth of a second, six times faster than manual shifts in the V6-powered IS models.
New hydraulic-control technology allows the IS F 8-Speed Sport Direct Shift transmission to perform on par with manual transmissions without sacrificing the smoothness of a torque-converter automatic. In M mode, upshifts are executed in just one-tenth of a second, six times faster than manual shifts in the V6-powered IS models.
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; 04-08-14 at 07:47 AM.
04-08-14, 07:25 AM
#143
Racer
Thanks, I have alot bmw friends that I talk to on a regular. I would like to know that i'm making a true statment b/c every article I read says that the DCT is faster. Those guys will eat me alive if I say anything about their precious M thats not true.
04-10-14, 07:06 AM
#145
funny how in order to get backup camera and keyless access for the M they lumped those into a $4000 package, dual clutch $2900, LED headlights $1900, Extended Leather interior $3500, 19" wheels $1200. Most of those are standard on the RC (8spd is just as fast as the DCT). Typical german car nickel and diming.
Also as for the shift speeds vs. DCT, what most forget is that while shifts are indeed fast for the 8 speed sports, it's the down shifts where you see the big difference. I owned one of the first IS-F and I can tell you that there is noticeable lag versus a DCT from the GT-R, which isn't the best of the DCT out there currently.
Last edited by CrazyMPG; 04-10-14 at 07:12 AM.
04-10-14, 10:32 AM
#146
Lexus and Toyota have weird packaging options (e.g. on a new Prius V, if you want the 7" navigation unit, you have to get radar cruise control and pre Collison) which is to give them more profit. I see nothing wrong with what BMW has done. Most options in the end will net you pennies on the dollar.
Also as for the shift speeds vs. DCT, what most forget is that while shifts are indeed fast for the 8 speed sports, it's the down shifts where you see the big difference. I owned one of the first IS-F and I can tell you that there is noticeable lag versus a DCT from the GT-R, which isn't the best of the DCT out there currently.
Also as for the shift speeds vs. DCT, what most forget is that while shifts are indeed fast for the 8 speed sports, it's the down shifts where you see the big difference. I owned one of the first IS-F and I can tell you that there is noticeable lag versus a DCT from the GT-R, which isn't the best of the DCT out there currently.
