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Interview with RC-F chief engineer (Lexus Europe)

Old 03-08-14, 10:16 AM
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Default Interview with RC-F chief engineer (Lexus Europe)

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Abed Haj Yihia: Why is the RC F so heavy? Because of its weight the IS F was beaten in every comparison against the M3.

Well Abed, firstly, a lot of strengthening was required to meet very strict US crash requirements. However, this strength (in the form of extra thick rocker panels and use of body adhesives for the chassis) make the RC F great fun to drive. And it is worth remembering, even the LFA looked a little heavy on paper, but proved to be one of the best cars ever built.

Alexander Traub: Why didn't you use a turbocharged engine for the car?

Yukihiko Yaguchi: As with the LFA V10 supercar, we wanted the driver to have a very close, direct and close relationship with the car. In our view this is only possible with a normally aspirated engine that responds incredibly fast to the driver’s throttle commands.


Ayd T Mkize: How much of the LFA's DNA went into the RC F’s suspension? And how many LFA engineers were involved with the RC F?

Yukihiko Yaguchi: Whilst the LFAs are hand-built supercars, the RC F is based on the GS platform with a shorter wheelbase. Using advanced production technology such as laser screw welding and adhesives, we have made significant improvements to rigidity and safety. And yes, many LFA engineers and technicians were involved in the RC F project team, so plenty of know-how was carried over.

Noel Farrugia: What is the actual bhp? We know it’s more than 450 but how much
more please?


Yukihiko Yaguchi: Well, it is going to be above 450 bhp, (pointing upwards in the air)

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Old 03-08-14, 05:03 PM
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It really sounds like Lexus did it right...again...with the next gen F.

Again, looking for ultrasonic blue in my garage in January or sooner.
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guess we can see 450HP in the GS-F...
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Great Find!!
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Originally Posted by tmf2004
guess we can see 450HP in the GS-F...
If you read closely, he hinted RC-F will be a lot more than 450 HP. I believe that is what pointing upwards with his finger was intended to do.

GS-F is altogether a different story and no one knows anything about the engine it will use.
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Originally Posted by 05RollaXRS
If you read closely, he hinted RC-F will be a lot more than 450 HP. I believe that is what pointing upwards with his finger was intended to do.

GS-F is altogether a different story and no one knows anything about the engine it will use.
I took the gesture to mean the same thing.

I am hoping for around 480 HP...and to see the spec soon. There are far too many rumors.
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this was a good find. all the talk of the car being more than 450hp, also has me wondering just how much more. this car is going to be so sick
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Just keep raising the rev limiter...of course on paper it will have more horsepower.

I want to see the torque figures and the torque curve.
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Originally Posted by 05RollaXRS
GS-F is altogether a different story and no one knows anything about the engine it will use.
GS-F will be the same powertrain as RC-F. ~460 to 470 HP.
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Originally Posted by MisterSkiz
Just keep raising the rev limiter...of course on paper it will have more horsepower.

I want to see the torque figures and the torque curve.
Just raising the rev limiter automatically does not yield more horsepower. That is ridiculous. If the torque curve is plummeting, so will the horsepower resulting in a shorter powerband. That is why cars have low redline since the torque is already in free fall and internals are not light enough to handle high revs.

The 5.0 Liter V8 engine was re-worked inside out to sustain the torque curve at higher rpms and keep the torque curve from falling

This illustrates it best where each car has peak horsepower at 7000 rpm. It shows how less torque in car 2 results in less horsepower compared to car 1 at the same rpm point.

Car 1

Torque = 390 ft-lbs@7000 rpm

Car 2

Torque = 300 ft-lbs@7000 rpm

Now it is easy to extrapolate how much horsepower each car is making at 7000 rpm

Car 1

HP=TORQUE X RPM / 5252

HP = 390 x 7000 rpm/5252

HP = 519 HP

Car 2

HP= 300 x 7000 rpm/5252

HP= 400 HP

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Abed Haj Yihia: Why is the RC F so heavy? Because of its weight the IS F was beaten in every comparison against the M3.

He should've slapped the guy for this question lol. It wasn't because of the weight.
Old 03-13-14, 08:28 AM
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2012 ISF had the same Lightning Lap time as M3 in Car and Driver. Suspension tweaks and LSD really helped it.
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Originally Posted by 05RollaXRS
Just raising the rev limiter automatically does not yield more horsepower. That is ridiculous. If the torque curve is plummeting, so will the horsepower resulting in a shorter powerband. That is why cars have low redline since the torque is already in free fall and internals are not light enough to handle high revs.

The 5.0 Liter V8 engine was re-worked inside out to sustain the torque curve at higher rpms and keep the torque curve from falling

This illustrates it best where each car has peak horsepower at 7000 rpm. It shows how less torque in car 2 results in less horsepower compared to car 1 at the same rpm point.

Car 1

Torque = 390 ft-lbs@7000 rpm

Car 2

Torque = 300 ft-lbs@7000 rpm

Now it is easy to extrapolate how much horsepower each car is making at 7000 rpm

Car 1

HP=TORQUE X RPM / 5252

HP = 390 x 7000 rpm/5252

HP = 519 HP

Car 2

HP= 300 x 7000 rpm/5252

HP= 400 HP

It does if torque is linear. :P
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Originally Posted by MisterSkiz
It does if torque is linear. :P
That was the whole point of my post. If the torque curve is plummeting, so will the horsepower.
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Originally Posted by jat0223
Abed Haj Yihia: Why is the RC F so heavy? Because of its weight the IS F was beaten in every comparison against the M3.

He should've slapped the guy for this question lol. It wasn't because of the weight.
This is not true. Folks tend to believe every F model year was identical. By 2012, the F was matching the M3 on the track and even edging ahead in 0-60 runs.

Many of the critiques leaned towards the F as the winner in performance and overall enjoyment comparisons.

Give the beast it's deserved credit.

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