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#1488
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If BMW is so good why didn't they make a compelling Naturally Aspirated V8? Exactly coz they just cannot cut it and had to opt out for the easy path.
Last edited by yowps3; 12-21-13 at 02:16 AM.
#1492
The older 4.0 V8 was essentially bespoke having only shared technology and engine architecture with the now discontinued and very limitedly produced 5.0 V10 found in the last generation M5/M6.
This new 3.0 twin turbo shares little to no common technology with BMWs current 3 liter Inline-6.
I wouldn't rule out the new M3/M4's twin turbo I6 which is likely highly underrated nor the RC-F and it's 460 horses. I feel that the RC-F will have a better chassis but acceleration will likely be in the M3/M4's favor.
#1493
M3 / M4 chassis is said to have 50% unique parts in comparison to standard F30 / F32.
You can see most of the features / specs here:
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=923203
They've already done high power, high reving NA motors. But that's like saying why can't Lexus match their entry level 4 cylinder without doing having to do a new 2.0t. Let's appreciate what both are doing.
New M3/ M4 will be beasts and hopefully the RC-F equally impresses.
You can see most of the features / specs here:
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=923203
They've already done high power, high reving NA motors. But that's like saying why can't Lexus match their entry level 4 cylinder without doing having to do a new 2.0t. Let's appreciate what both are doing.
New M3/ M4 will be beasts and hopefully the RC-F equally impresses.
#1494
so with around 460hp, I hope lexus will design this car to have light weight as much as possible w/ light weight material technology like aluminum chassis, carbon fiber ...etc. to keep it at under 3,400 lbs. That would be in the same ball park with m4 and c7. Man, can't wait to see more specs. Like the HP so far
#1495
#1496
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so with around 460hp, I hope lexus will design this car to have light weight as much as possible w/ light weight material technology like aluminum chassis, carbon fiber ...etc. to keep it at under 3,400 lbs. That would be in the same ball park with m4 and c7. Man, can't wait to see more specs. Like the HP so far
#1497
Lexus Test Driver
RCF with 460hp is more than enough esp that its from NA V8 compared to the M3/4
I think what may hold it back is the lack of a DCT and manual option. Standard automatics are fine for GT cars but not enough for true performance geared cars.
I think what may hold it back is the lack of a DCT and manual option. Standard automatics are fine for GT cars but not enough for true performance geared cars.
#1498
Lexus Champion
Comparing to similar BMW competition, the *rumored* 460 HP for the upcoming RC-F would be neat (considering that the previous ISF has 416HP and the newly-released M3 and M4 have 430 HP)
However, 478 HP for a GS-F is NOT GOING TO CUT IT..........especially given that the competitors in this segment (BMW M5, Jaguar XFR, Audi RS6/RS7, MB E63 AMG, etc.) have MORE THAN 500 HP
The GS-F NEEDS TO HAVE AT LEAST 500 HP minimum to compete in that segment. Otherwise, it will be left behind...
However, 478 HP for a GS-F is NOT GOING TO CUT IT..........especially given that the competitors in this segment (BMW M5, Jaguar XFR, Audi RS6/RS7, MB E63 AMG, etc.) have MORE THAN 500 HP
The GS-F NEEDS TO HAVE AT LEAST 500 HP minimum to compete in that segment. Otherwise, it will be left behind...
#1499
Having an ISF myself, it was nice doing headers and having decent gains. The hp for the RCF is so similar to an ISF with headers that I am led to think that no meaningful mods are possible for more power (apart from if you have a vehicle with a Japanese ecu)
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Comparing to similar BMW competition, the *rumored* 460 HP for the upcoming RC-F would be neat (considering that the previous ISF has 416HP and the newly-released M3 and M4 have 430 HP)
However, 478 HP for a GS-F is NOT GOING TO CUT IT..........especially given that the competitors in this segment (BMW M5, Jaguar XFR, Audi RS6/RS7, MB E63 AMG, etc.) have MORE THAN 500 HP
The GS-F NEEDS TO HAVE AT LEAST 500 HP minimum to compete in that segment. Otherwise, it will be left behind...
However, 478 HP for a GS-F is NOT GOING TO CUT IT..........especially given that the competitors in this segment (BMW M5, Jaguar XFR, Audi RS6/RS7, MB E63 AMG, etc.) have MORE THAN 500 HP
The GS-F NEEDS TO HAVE AT LEAST 500 HP minimum to compete in that segment. Otherwise, it will be left behind...