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Old 06-19-15, 12:48 AM
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Default Can I Swap an is350 motor into my Is250?

I currently own a 2007 is250 (Manual Transmission) I found an is350 motor for a great price and I wanted to know if I needed anything besides the motor to do the swap ? What do you guys advice me ?
Old 06-19-15, 05:53 AM
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You would also have to get the 350 auto transmission, rear diff, ecu, and driveshaft (i believe). Would be best to just sell your is250 and get an is350 unless you can gather all parts and install for less than a few grand and be okay with taking a hit on the cars value (no one likes to buy a car with an engine swap... especially these engines).
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How much did you find the engine?Just curious cause my dream is to swap the 350 engine but with my manual trunny!
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Well apparently it has been done before yet the details have not been confirmed 100%. Assuming that the 2gr and 4gr has the same transmission mounting points, it would be a direct swap. One guy recently said he COMPLETED a 350 swap with 250 MT yet did not do a full build thread nor provide pictures. Its like those youtube videos of the non-car guys saying their Toyota Corolla is a BEAST and SO FAST....yeah.. umm... anyway

The engine mounts are the same so the 2gr would be a direct fit and if you keep the 250 MT, the rear diff is optional to change. So you would really need the engine, ECU, and a few sensors here and there to get the engine running properly. Wiring is something that is going to need careful attention to because the engines are not identical so having a service manual for both wouldn't be bad

Mechanically it CAN be done very cheaply and very easily, however the difficulty of wiring it up is still unknown and still makes this swap PLAUSABLE. At a cost point, its almost easier to just buy a 350 since the difference would be the same as an engine swap and proper wiring

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Default Thank you guys I'll make sure to keep looking into it

Thanks for the help
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Originally Posted by NYKnick101
Well apparently it has been done before yet the details have not been confirmed 100%. Assuming that the 2gr and 4gr has the same transmission mounting points, it would be a direct swap. One guy recently said he COMPLETED a 350 swap with 250 MT yet did not do a full build thread nor provide pictures. Its like those youtube videos of the non-car guys saying their Toyota Corola is a BEAST and SO FAST....yeah.. umm... anyway

The engine mounts are the same so the 2gr would be a direct fit and if you keep the 250 MT, the rear diff is optional to change. So you would really need the engine, ECU, and a few sensors here and there to get the engine running properly. Wiring is something that is going to need careful attention to because the engines are not identical so having a service manual for both wouldn't be bad

Mechanically it CAN be done very cheaply and very easily, however the difficulty of wiring it up is still unknown and still makes this swap PLAUSABLE. At a cost point, its almost easier to just buy a 350 since the difference would be the same as an engine swap and proper wiring
I m from Greece and IS350 is not an option so this swap is ideal but the cost of a good used engine with everything on should be very hight.The wiring is a problem if I want to keep my manual trunny but someone in Australia did it and it seemed to work great.I PMed him but no reply!
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Originally Posted by PAVGR
I m from Greece and IS350 is not an option so this swap is ideal but the cost of a good used engine with everything on should be very hight.The wiring is a problem if I want to keep my manual trunny but someone in Australia did it and it seemed to work great.I PMed him but no reply!
Yeah i I feel you. There hasnt been a lot of swaps or replace engines around the forums with the IS2/350 so no one (other than lexus techs in here) can really directly confirm the trans mounting points are identical. Like I said, it has been done before and from what I read, it seems to be a DIRECT bolt in with little to no modification. Wiring has yet to be confirmed tho

If you want, I would say go for it, get the engine and confirm how difficult the wiring is. If its plug and play, the Club Lexus Community would go crazy because now we have direct proof because someone actually tried it and was successful.

Other than that we wont really know
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Old 06-20-15, 12:13 AM
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Anything is possible. Many IS350 sensor, spark plug are same as IS250. Would love to see how the project go please keep us up dates of you decide to do the swap.
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Would be some work, but with time and patience you could make it work!
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I was there for part of the build of the 250 mt to 350. I know wiring was swapped over from the 350, ecu etc. engine mounting points the same, bolts right up. Doner car was a 2010 350 sports luxury (top trim here), we never got 350s before 2010.
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Mechanically, it's bolt-in. Electronically, things get more tricky. I've looked into it for a few years, but haven't gotten far enough to actually do it yet. Can't be much more help than what I just said, haha.

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there has to be someone??? this will probably be the only engine mod i do since its cheaper than supercharger and more effective lol
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Not that I've seen on the forum. It likely would be cheaper just to sell the 250 and buy a 350 when U factor in the cost of the engine and labor.
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I am now more thoroughly considering doing this swap, possibly this winter. As a manual transmission IS350 does not exist, my options are more limited.

Still, it's going to cost a chunk for sure.

Jeff
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
I am now more thoroughly considering doing this swap, possibly this winter. As a manual transmission IS350 does not exist, my options are more limited.

Still, it's going to cost a chunk for sure.

Jeff
Do it!

And be sure to bring it up to Edmonton and to the Illmotion show when you do


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