JKS headers on Ebay (ppe clones)
11-28-13, 09:36 AM
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JKS headers on Ebay (ppe clones)
Anyone have experience with this company? These seem legit and are considerably heaper at 499$ than the ppe version.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-PPE-F-SPORT-RACE-EXHAUST-MANIFOLD-HEADERS-06-13-LEXUS-IS250-IS350-RWD-JDM-/281201717832?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ALexus&hash=item4178edb248&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-PPE-F-SPORT-RACE-EXHAUST-MANIFOLD-HEADERS-06-13-LEXUS-IS250-IS350-RWD-JDM-/281201717832?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ALexus&hash=item4178edb248&vxp=mtr
11-28-13, 06:11 PM
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^Agreed! You'd be better off with a MUCH cheaper clone header like this :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-09-LEXUS-IS250-2-5-LITER-V6-2-PIECE-DUAL-EXHAUST-HEADER-PIPE-STAINLESS-STEEL-/271321057669?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AIS250&hash=item3f2bfec985&vxp=mtr
Probably from the same Chinese factory!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-09-LEXUS-IS250-2-5-LITER-V6-2-PIECE-DUAL-EXHAUST-HEADER-PIPE-STAINLESS-STEEL-/271321057669?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AIS250&hash=item3f2bfec985&vxp=mtr
Probably from the same Chinese factory!
11-30-13, 09:05 AM
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Wow, knock off headers... first time hearing about this. Are there any documented experiences with these clones? How do they perform compared to the real thing? I might be interested in one for my is350.
12-01-13, 09:34 PM
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^^^^You are indeed correct. PPE headers are specific to the IS250 and IS350. The tube diameters are different. Though they are interchangeable as far as fit, the different diameter tubing is sized to be optimal for the engine displacement on which it's installed.
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12-31-13, 05:31 PM
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It's funny that everyone keeps saying these headers are garbage because they're "not optimized" for a specific engine size. You know who else didn't "optimize" their headers for a specific engine? Toyota. If you look at Sewell's parts catalog, the IS250 (RWD) and IS350 headers are the same part number. Yes, I'm sure this had to do with ease of mass production to a degree, but I imagine had there been a significant difference they would have made two sets.
The point is, if you can get rid of the cats and help get heat out of the engine bay, even if you don't make double digit HP increases, that's still probably worth the $150.
And, if you look at the OBX long tubes, the only real difference I can see compared to PPE is the collector design. Yes, collector design is important but with the $450 you'd save you could get a mid-pipe, axle-back, a bunch of McNuggets... whatever you need to help the cause.
I wish more people would try these out. I may one day closer to spring....
The point is, if you can get rid of the cats and help get heat out of the engine bay, even if you don't make double digit HP increases, that's still probably worth the $150.
And, if you look at the OBX long tubes, the only real difference I can see compared to PPE is the collector design. Yes, collector design is important but with the $450 you'd save you could get a mid-pipe, axle-back, a bunch of McNuggets... whatever you need to help the cause.
I wish more people would try these out. I may one day closer to spring....
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12-31-13, 05:39 PM
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It's funny that everyone keeps saying these headers are garbage because they're "not optimized" for a specific engine size. You know who else didn't "optimize" their headers for a specific engine? Toyota. If you look at Sewell's parts catalog, the IS250 (RWD) and IS350 headers are the same part number. Yes, I'm sure this had to do with ease of mass production to a degree, but I imagine had there been a significant difference they would have made two sets.
The point is, if you can get rid of the cats and help get heat out of the engine bay, even if you don't make double digit HP increases, that's still probably worth the $150.
And, if you look at the OBX long tubes, the only real difference I can see compared to PPE is the collector design. Yes, collector design is important but with the $450 you'd save you could get a mid-pipe, axle-back, a bunch of McNuggets... whatever you need to help the cause.
I wish more people would try these out. I may one day closer to spring....
The point is, if you can get rid of the cats and help get heat out of the engine bay, even if you don't make double digit HP increases, that's still probably worth the $150.
And, if you look at the OBX long tubes, the only real difference I can see compared to PPE is the collector design. Yes, collector design is important but with the $450 you'd save you could get a mid-pipe, axle-back, a bunch of McNuggets... whatever you need to help the cause.
I wish more people would try these out. I may one day closer to spring....
It's usually true any aftermarket header is better than our stock, but without anyone dyno-ing these I wouldn't just assume it, and weld quality could be poor. I love my PPE's tho
01-06-14, 11:37 PM
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It's funny that everyone keeps saying these headers are garbage because they're "not optimized" for a specific engine size. You know who else didn't "optimize" their headers for a specific engine? Toyota. If you look at Sewell's parts catalog, the IS250 (RWD) and IS350 headers are the same part number. Yes, I'm sure this had to do with ease of mass production to a degree, but I imagine had there been a significant difference they would have made two sets.
The point is, if you can get rid of the cats and help get heat out of the engine bay, even if you don't make double digit HP increases, that's still probably worth the $150.
And, if you look at the OBX long tubes, the only real difference I can see compared to PPE is the collector design. Yes, collector design is important but with the $450 you'd save you could get a mid-pipe, axle-back, a bunch of McNuggets... whatever you need to help the cause.
I wish more people would try these out. I may one day closer to spring....
The point is, if you can get rid of the cats and help get heat out of the engine bay, even if you don't make double digit HP increases, that's still probably worth the $150.
And, if you look at the OBX long tubes, the only real difference I can see compared to PPE is the collector design. Yes, collector design is important but with the $450 you'd save you could get a mid-pipe, axle-back, a bunch of McNuggets... whatever you need to help the cause.
I wish more people would try these out. I may one day closer to spring....
Toyota wasn't concerned with squeezing every pony possible out of the engines either. PPE was.
It's usually true any aftermarket header is better than our stock, but without anyone dyno-ing these I wouldn't just assume it, and weld quality could be poor. I love my PPE's tho
It's usually true any aftermarket header is better than our stock, but without anyone dyno-ing these I wouldn't just assume it, and weld quality could be poor. I love my PPE's tho
of course they are going to be cheaper, you are getting what you pay for in the end. hence why the ppe cost what they do
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