breaking up on high boost
09-24-12, 08:07 AM
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Im running E85 mostly but I could drive on gas also (ProEfi). I tried gapping them to .22-.28 and the break up gets worse. I never tried coppers but I thought about using them. AFR's don't know. I would have to hook up my laptop and log a couple runs
09-24-12, 12:33 PM
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If you have to gap them that low then you must need a new set of coils specially if you are running the 128box!
I wouldn't run anything lower than .035 on my car on aem v1 with gmc denali coils (aka) LQ9 coils same coils Jason at Proefi sells as Proefi smart coils good for 2000hp.
You may wanna try them , Your ECu is better than mine so if i can run 24 psi on those coils at .044 gap , I am sure they will perform great on your car!
I think gapping your plugs ar .17 is just a band aid .
I am on E85 full time, and e85 does kill the plugs faster specially if you DD the car and alot of stop and go.
I wouldn't run anything lower than .035 on my car on aem v1 with gmc denali coils (aka) LQ9 coils same coils Jason at Proefi sells as Proefi smart coils good for 2000hp.
You may wanna try them , Your ECu is better than mine so if i can run 24 psi on those coils at .044 gap , I am sure they will perform great on your car!
I think gapping your plugs ar .17 is just a band aid .
I am on E85 full time, and e85 does kill the plugs faster specially if you DD the car and alot of stop and go.
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09-24-12, 07:57 PM
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If you have to gap them that low then you must need a new set of coils specially if you are running the 128box!
I wouldn't run anything lower than .035 on my car on aem v1 with gmc denali coils (aka) LQ9 coils same coils Jason at Proefi sells as Proefi smart coils good for 2000hp.
You may wanna try them , Your ECu is better than mine so if i can run 24 psi on those coils at .044 gap , I am sure they will perform great on your car!
I think gapping your plugs ar .17 is just a band aid .
I am on E85 full time, and e85 does kill the plugs faster specially if you DD the car and alot of stop and go.
I wouldn't run anything lower than .035 on my car on aem v1 with gmc denali coils (aka) LQ9 coils same coils Jason at Proefi sells as Proefi smart coils good for 2000hp.
You may wanna try them , Your ECu is better than mine so if i can run 24 psi on those coils at .044 gap , I am sure they will perform great on your car!
I think gapping your plugs ar .17 is just a band aid .
I am on E85 full time, and e85 does kill the plugs faster specially if you DD the car and alot of stop and go.
09-29-12, 10:37 AM
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You can run any Coils you want, I ran vvti coils on my car before i upgraded to the lq9s , btw i am na-t with the ems you can run any coils you like.
For example you are on the 128 box , remember the 128 box is universal , it will work on lambos, vipers, vettes, mustangs, G35, R35 anything..only difference is the map that's loaded on the ecu , ignition map.
so you can run what ever coils you like, Talk to errol at TPS you knows about the gm coils .
Your ignition system is weak if you have to gap your plugs to .017 to get it run great and not break up. It sounds like you need some new coils .
If i can run .035 on my aem and run whatever coils i want, i don't see why you can't do the same , and even better you got the One of the best EMS out there hands down!
http://www.theboostlab.com/store/pro...tion-Coil.html
This is a post for Larry at SP when i was going with the Proefi
For example you are on the 128 box , remember the 128 box is universal , it will work on lambos, vipers, vettes, mustangs, G35, R35 anything..only difference is the map that's loaded on the ecu , ignition map.
so you can run what ever coils you like, Talk to errol at TPS you knows about the gm coils .
Your ignition system is weak if you have to gap your plugs to .017 to get it run great and not break up. It sounds like you need some new coils .
If i can run .035 on my aem and run whatever coils i want, i don't see why you can't do the same , and even better you got the One of the best EMS out there hands down!
http://www.theboostlab.com/store/pro...tion-Coil.html
This is a post for Larry at SP when i was going with the Proefi
What are your plans for crank and cam sensors?? Right now the distributor acts as both. They are built into the lower part of the distributor. You can remove the cap, rotor and of course plug wires but with any ECU you will still need the lower half to supply your crank and cam signals. ProEFI has killer smart coils that would work for you, or you can use stock TT ones or even the VVTi ones but remember that if they are not smart coils you will need an igniter .
09-29-12, 03:04 PM
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Even on the VVTI stock ecu and igniter you can run individual coils no problem.
I've seen it done two different ways with a single igniter and dual igniters. You are still running it in wasted spark mode, but using 6 coils. I've seen it done with both non-vvti coils and LSx coils.
The VVTI packs and wasted spark mode are still very strong and if new or still in good condition they can handle veryhigh hp engines..
And a DLI or Sun X-Power on the stock vvti coils/igniter should get you plenty of ignition even at very high boost and power levels.
I've seen it done two different ways with a single igniter and dual igniters. You are still running it in wasted spark mode, but using 6 coils. I've seen it done with both non-vvti coils and LSx coils.
The VVTI packs and wasted spark mode are still very strong and if new or still in good condition they can handle veryhigh hp engines..
And a DLI or Sun X-Power on the stock vvti coils/igniter should get you plenty of ignition even at very high boost and power levels.
09-29-12, 04:04 PM
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You can run any Coils you want, I ran vvti coils on my car before i upgraded to the lq9s , btw i am na-t with the ems you can run any coils you like.
For example you are on the 128 box , remember the 128 box is universal , it will work on lambos, vipers, vettes, mustangs, G35, R35 anything..only difference is the map that's loaded on the ecu , ignition map.
so you can run what ever coils you like, Talk to errol at TPS you knows about the gm coils .
Your ignition system is weak if you have to gap your plugs to .017 to get it run great and not break up. It sounds like you need some new coils .
If i can run .035 on my aem and run whatever coils i want, i don't see why you can't do the same , and even better you got the One of the best EMS out there hands down!
http://www.theboostlab.com/store/pro...tion-Coil.html
This is a post for Larry at SP when i was going with the Proefi
For example you are on the 128 box , remember the 128 box is universal , it will work on lambos, vipers, vettes, mustangs, G35, R35 anything..only difference is the map that's loaded on the ecu , ignition map.
so you can run what ever coils you like, Talk to errol at TPS you knows about the gm coils .
Your ignition system is weak if you have to gap your plugs to .017 to get it run great and not break up. It sounds like you need some new coils .
If i can run .035 on my aem and run whatever coils i want, i don't see why you can't do the same , and even better you got the One of the best EMS out there hands down!
http://www.theboostlab.com/store/pro...tion-Coil.html
This is a post for Larry at SP when i was going with the Proefi
09-29-12, 04:06 PM
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You can run any Coils you want, I ran vvti coils on my car before i upgraded to the lq9s , btw i am na-t with the ems you can run any coils you like.
For example you are on the 128 box , remember the 128 box is universal , it will work on lambos, vipers, vettes, mustangs, G35, R35 anything..only difference is the map that's loaded on the ecu , ignition map.
so you can run what ever coils you like, Talk to errol at TPS you knows about the gm coils .
Your ignition system is weak if you have to gap your plugs to .017 to get it run great and not break up. It sounds like you need some new coils .
If i can run .035 on my aem and run whatever coils i want, i don't see why you can't do the same , and even better you got the One of the best EMS out there hands down!
http://www.theboostlab.com/store/pro...tion-Coil.html
This is a post for Larry at SP when i was going with the Proefi
For example you are on the 128 box , remember the 128 box is universal , it will work on lambos, vipers, vettes, mustangs, G35, R35 anything..only difference is the map that's loaded on the ecu , ignition map.
so you can run what ever coils you like, Talk to errol at TPS you knows about the gm coils .
Your ignition system is weak if you have to gap your plugs to .017 to get it run great and not break up. It sounds like you need some new coils .
If i can run .035 on my aem and run whatever coils i want, i don't see why you can't do the same , and even better you got the One of the best EMS out there hands down!
http://www.theboostlab.com/store/pro...tion-Coil.html
This is a post for Larry at SP when i was going with the Proefi
09-29-12, 04:33 PM
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Well for your power goal and the type of power you are making you don't need to run .017 gap.
Ask Errol what he thinks about about the LQ9 coils, they are a couple guys that i meet running these coils at 2000hp on there boats, 2jz powered land cruiser, nissan patrol , and 1100rwhp supras not gapping to their plugs .017.
for 700whp if you have to gap your plugs to 17 , running a proefi there must be some week Coils.
Talk to Errol he knows his stuff! i like him very knowledgeable guy and always willing to share.
Ask Errol what he thinks about about the LQ9 coils, they are a couple guys that i meet running these coils at 2000hp on there boats, 2jz powered land cruiser, nissan patrol , and 1100rwhp supras not gapping to their plugs .017.
for 700whp if you have to gap your plugs to 17 , running a proefi there must be some week Coils.
Talk to Errol he knows his stuff! i like him very knowledgeable guy and always willing to share.