2jzgte cast manifold Borg Warner options?
05-23-14, 01:41 PM
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2jzgte cast manifold Borg Warner options?
I need to swap out my twins and go single and would like to stick with a cast manifold for durability and longevity. Looking to get a suitable turbo for stock fuel system. I will step up to supra TT injectors as opposed to my aristo which are 440's I think. My main question is which BW turbo can I go with to match with a cast manifold being most are divided turbo's vs the un divided cast manifold? Would the below turbo work with a sc swap being that this has a (90 Deg Compressor Outlet). Are guys throwing on divided BW turbos onto un divided manifolds?
BorgWarner Airwerks S300SX3-63, S363, S300 88/75 with .88 A/R T4 Open Flow Turbine Housing.
http://www.theboostlab.com/store/pro...Outlet%29.html
Any tips or turbo options under $1000 for cast manifold much appreciated.
Thx
BorgWarner Airwerks S300SX3-63, S363, S300 88/75 with .88 A/R T4 Open Flow Turbine Housing.
http://www.theboostlab.com/store/pro...Outlet%29.html
Any tips or turbo options under $1000 for cast manifold much appreciated.
Thx
05-23-14, 02:56 PM
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Just get a fleabay tubular manifold.......Get it modified to fit your wastegate and add some structural supports....Many people are running fleabay manifolds....I am using a modified godspeed manifold...
If you want to get a cast manifold you could add a small spacer to run a divided manifold style t4
If you want to get a cast manifold you could add a small spacer to run a divided manifold style t4
05-24-14, 07:16 AM
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Just get a fleabay tubular manifold.......Get it modified to fit your wastegate and add some structural supports....Many people are running fleabay manifolds....I am using a modified godspeed manifold...
If you want to get a cast manifold you could add a small spacer to run a divided manifold style t4
If you want to get a cast manifold you could add a small spacer to run a divided manifold style t4
05-24-14, 05:55 PM
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05-28-14, 07:12 AM
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What ^^said, BW does have a large compressor housing, positioning of turbo also has to do with the type of flange it has on the manifold and angle. if you notice on fleabay/knockoffs exhaust manifolds have the t4 flange sitting in the dead center, and also has the #1 runner that needs to be modified to be able to clear the wheel(been there done that). On the other hand VWR manifolds, BoostLogic's and many others have the flange in a slight angle to be able to clear big compressor wheel turbos, like GT42's for example. But the cast manifolds are not bad, and are pretty reliable. A friend of mine ran one on his 2jz 240sx with a pte 6262. The power band on that car was very violent. Due to the great tires and suspension he was able to distribute power throughout the pavement. But on the other hand the 240sx engine bay is alot more spacious with the swap, giving it alot of leg room, plus the 6262 is not a big turbo, so even more space lol. Getting back to your topic, a s300sx is a great turbo but its limited on power. Depending on your power goals. An s366 on other hand can be had for about the same price or even a bit cheaper, and gives you room to grow. Ive seen s366 hold above shy 800. It all really comes down to power goals and budget
05-28-14, 10:32 AM
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What ^^said, BW does have a large compressor housing and they have divided and undivided a.r housings. positioning of turbo also has to do with the type of flange it has on the manifold and angle. if you notice on fleabay/knockoffs exhaust manifolds have the t4 flange sitting in the dead center, and also has the #1 runner that needs to be modified to be able to clear the wheel(been there done that). On the other hand VWR manifolds, BoostLogic's and many others have the flange in a slight angle to be able to clear big compressor wheel turbos, like GT42's for example. But the cast manifolds are not bad, and are pretty reliable. A friend of mine ran one on his 2jz 240sx with a pte 6262. The power band on that car was very violent. Due to the great tires and suspension he was able to distribute power throughout the pavement. But on the other hand the 240sx engine bay is alot more spacious with the swap, giving it alot of leg room, plus the 6262 is not a big turbo, so even more space lol. Getting back to your topic, a s300sx is a great turbo but its limited on power. Depending on your power goals. An s366 on other hand can be had for about the same price or even a bit cheaper, and gives you room to grow. Ive seen s366 hold above shy 800. It all really comes down to power goals and budget:. If you decide to run the USDM 550cc injectors, you are going to need a low-resistor pack, injector connector clips(different from high independence connectors) and some sort of fuel management. You can run the 550cc injectors with the aristo ecu but its gonna run rich. You may get away with a SAFCII tune.
05-28-14, 11:43 AM
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I would match it to the manifold you want to use, if open go with an open housing, if you swap to a divided manifold then get the divided housing.
I don't think there is a real benefit to running a divided turbo on an undivided manifold except that its the combination you need to run a quick spool valve.
I don't think there is a real benefit to running a divided turbo on an undivided manifold except that its the combination you need to run a quick spool valve.
05-29-14, 07:44 AM
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Sorry I don't mean to nit-pick your post here, but I see so many people misunderstand BW turbos naming. An "S366" is an S300sx turbo. S300SX-xxxx is BW's naming convention for those frame sized units. Aftermarket companies such as Bullseye have tried to simplify the naming by calling them S360, S362, S366, etc. They've only made it more complicated by doing that in my opinion. But the one he's looking at is the 62.99mm version of the S300SX series turbos. You can find 60mm, 62mm, as well as 66mm (aka S366) version of that same frame turbo. All will have similar external physical dimensions assuming the same size housings were purchased, just different parts on the inside.
Last edited by nuturf87; 05-29-14 at 07:57 AM.
05-31-14, 03:10 PM
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Thanks Gents and Ali for sure I don't see any benefits and actually think it may be counter productive. I def want to properly match ends. Looking for the more economical BW turbo vs the PT6266 on a cast manifold. Trying to keep the costs down as much as possible with out getting inferior parts really. Nuturf I actually will go standalone once it's running so we'll see what I do for fuel. This car is running on one new Supra TT pump and jdm aristo injectors as is and will keep it like this until the ECU is swapped. I had my old sr20det running on a SAFC and didn't like it at all. I hit speed limiter many times and it sucked.
05-31-14, 05:29 PM
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1: these things aren't nissans
2: safc has nothing and I mean absolutely nothing to do with speed cut here and I'm pretty sure on any vehicle. You wanna get rid of that, then clip or depin sp1.
If you meant fuel cut instead of speed limiter which I'm pretty sure you didn't because they're two completely different words to comprise a phrase, then that's simple too. It's called an fcd, and the safc/fcd combo has been a proven setup for like 20 years.
Safc works absolutely fine and is a very useful tool for your specific goals and budget. If you don't wanna do things right, then why bother asking questions? Just do what you're gonna do and get your doors blown off by the guy with the setup that has less potential because they know what they're doing.
Or you could just put on your big boy pants, buy an aem v2 and injectors, get a good tune and make about 500.
2: safc has nothing and I mean absolutely nothing to do with speed cut here and I'm pretty sure on any vehicle. You wanna get rid of that, then clip or depin sp1.
If you meant fuel cut instead of speed limiter which I'm pretty sure you didn't because they're two completely different words to comprise a phrase, then that's simple too. It's called an fcd, and the safc/fcd combo has been a proven setup for like 20 years.
Safc works absolutely fine and is a very useful tool for your specific goals and budget. If you don't wanna do things right, then why bother asking questions? Just do what you're gonna do and get your doors blown off by the guy with the setup that has less potential because they know what they're doing.
Or you could just put on your big boy pants, buy an aem v2 and injectors, get a good tune and make about 500.
Last edited by Vrank; 05-31-14 at 05:33 PM.
06-03-14, 04:26 AM
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feel free to text me. I am doing the 2jzgte with cast log manifold and s366 90 compressor housing and a .91 divided ar. I have pics on my phone that I can text anyone who needs them. there is actually a lot of room depending on how you clock the compressor housing. 502-403-7543