xshurikx

I know this has been asked and answered 100 times but I couldn't get the info I needed because it seems people do the swaps themselves and manuals to other manuals.....

I have a 93 auto with 193k

I am looking to make it a manual

First question is which transmission comes stock with the sc300 5spd?

would that be a good choice to throw in my car for a quick cheap conversion?

Is there a better 5spd I can put in that you would recommend

How much do the parts run? How much should the job cost to be done by a shop?

Does anyone know a shop in the NY-NJ-PA-CT area that does this on regular basis?

Any shop that sells and does swaps?

Also if i was to go to a full swap 1JZ or 2JZ?

bznhornets

The W58 is the stock 5 speed. I asked a tranny shop in my town about this swap. He said would cost about 5K and it would be a PITA. I know this swap happens but I decided not go that way. My two cents worth. Good luck.

xshurikx

PITA?

and which direction do you recommend if not the W58?

czar07

Wont cost 5k. Search the forums please there are plenty of threads

xshurikx

i know there are plenty of threads but they don't answer my exact question and they talk about doing a 5spd to a different 5spd or to a 6spd

Studiogeek

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First question is which transmission comes stock with the sc300 5spd?
W58
would that be a good choice to throw in my car for a quick cheap conversion?
W58
Is there a better 5spd I can put in that you would recommend
R154, Getrag 6 speed
How much do the parts run? How much should the job cost to be done by a shop?
How long is a piece of string? How much is a house? in other words, it depends, you must choose what you want, then shop around
Does anyone know a shop in the NY-NJ-PA-CT area that does this on regular basis?
No one I know in those states does it regularly
Any shop that sells and does swaps?
No, not that I know of
Also if i was to go to a full swap 1JZ or 2JZ?
Your choice, read the many comparison threads here. There are reasons to go both ways

"they talk about doing a 5spd to a different 5spd or to a 6spd"
Not true, most are auto to manual by far

All of the info you requested except the recommendations for shops are well covered on this site including many DIY and build threads. I can say this though, if you are adverse to heavily researching something on your own, you will NEVER make it through any of these swaps. There are many approaches and no one can make the choices for you. You have to read and read and read until you are familiar with all approaches, then make the choices that work for you from an informed position based on performance, reliability, difficulty, price and what parts you can get your hands on. I rarely see a shop that does these tranny swaps but a few do the motor swap.

There are some really brilliant members here, if you take the initial steps, they will help with the rest for sure.

Good luck man!

1CleanSC

AMEN! If you plan on making power but nothing outrageous then the R154 is the best bet. If you want to swap a motor in that makes more power than your stock 2JZ-GE then the 1JZ-GTE with the R154 attached would be an ideal starting point for you. WARNING: THIS IS JUST AN OPINION.

As for this nonsense about it costing $5,000+ for swap parts and install I highly doubt you'll spend that much unless your buy a trans with existing issues. However, if you buy a really nice high end clutch for your stock 2JZ-GE or swap motor that could cost a decent amount. You could also run the route of buying a nice 1 piece driveshaft. There's also the possibly of it needing a rebuild. All these factors come in to play with these swaps. I know this because I'm in the middle of one now.

ANOTHER TIP: Budget your money and decide EXACTLY what you want to do (I.E. Trans swap or motor and trans swap, etc) when you run into kinks during your build you will be glad you budgeted money in for those extra little hiccups.

oldManTan

no there's lots of threads about going auto to W58 which is the sc300, MKIV supra tranny depending on which type you get. every question you asked has been answered. sowwyy, other 5 speeds are R154 if you're looking to make more power, i've seen a video of a nissan tranny from an SR s14, there's the 6 speed form a 350z which is a great alternative to the supra getrag tranny (V160). parts are pretty expensive. go on toyotav8.com, they have almost all the parts you need. if you do it yourself you can pull it off with probably 1500k or so. best scenario is to find an SC300 for dirt cheap and you have almost everything you need besides an adapter plate, and some other parts.

KahnBB6

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^^ Very good advice above.

As many here have stated, xshurikx, you should look into threads that pertain to what parts each manual setup requires. Pedals and the clutch master cylinder are the same for all. In each case it's also ideal to get an appropriate manual transmission style ECU for your engine (i.e.: if you JUST have a stock 2JZ-GE and plan to keep it that way-- SC300 5-speed ECU. 2JZGTE swap? 6-speed manual TT ECU. 1JZGTE swap? Get the correct M/T ECU for whichever version 1JZ you have. NA-T or standalone engine build? It's your choice...)

A W58 does fine against a non-turbo 2JZ-GE or against a stock 1UZ-FE V8 (which requires an aftermarket kit)

People do run boost against the W58 (from an SC300 or a Supra MKIV, not from an MKIII Supra) but it's a gamble as to their longevity depending on driving style or condition. It wasn't specifically designed for boost.

The R154 works in all other cases but is more expensive and harder to find parts for. The 6-speed? Very, very, very expensive but it's the best of them.

There are also threads regarding the Nissan 350Z CD009 6-speed and Aisin AR-5 5-speed from the Pontiac Solstice. I don't recommend you consider those if you haven't done transmission swaps before because both are very new to the SC community and venture outside of easily reproducible results.

Good luck!

LEXXIUM

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Шурик с очками?

xshurikx

thanks guys, i appreciate the feedback. i will definetly not be doing the swap myself dont have the right equipment or space to do it. i will need to find a shop.

i will read some additional info about the 5spd r154 and the 6spd.

i was told if i go to a 6spd i will need to change the rear axel.
someone also told me about a spot in NJ that has all the parts shipped straight from japan engines and tranmitions that they just swap for yours, have to look into that.

i want to save money but at the same time not regret what i did, so maybe i should go big or go home!

i will look into all the pricing and budget for that plus additional issues i will run into.

if the tranny will cost me around 2 i will be happy if the engine and tranny are around 5 i will be also happy. just sucks i did the maintenance on my engine recently.

mikef

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PITA? its all bolt on's, that tranny shop is lazy

mikef

iTrader: (3)

w58 swap 3k good
r154 swap 5k better
v160 swap 8k best (still can get all new)

this is about the price with your original engine still on


here is my list, maybe this will help

2JZ GTE V160 Parts List :
note, this is for all new

monster starter build with stock twins


6-speed drive belt tensioner
16620-46070 tensioner list 243.36 cost 182.52
16621-46010 bracket list 50.22 cost 37.66
16622-46010 arm list 23.96 cost 17.97
16602-46010 shock absorber list 77.66 cost 58.24
91511-g0845 bolt list 1.24 cost .93 x 2
90901-16001 stud list 2.79 cost 2.09
90179-08171 nut list 1.21 cost .91 x 2
90116-08348 stud list 1.15 cost .86 x 3
90080-17242 nut list 1.78 cost 1.33 ex x 2
Transmission
33030-0w212 v160 assy new $6300
31123-14020 inspection cover cost 30.38
31121-14030 inspection cover cost 36.65
90080-11228 bolt cost 3.28 total x 4
08885-01306 v160 oil qt cost ea x 2 Check to see if its prefilled/ checked ok
57255-14231 CROSS MEMBER, cost 173.23
90980-11051 Toyota HOUSING, CONNECTOR F cost 5.19
82998-12440 terminal for the housing connectorsx2
58261-14010 upper trans tunnel cost 80.33
90159-A0045 Screw, W/washer 2.92
12371-46110 trans mount list 87.92 cost 65.94
Shifter
33504-14130 shift **** cost 92.08
33511-14031 control shaft cost 25.86
33513-22030 yoke cost 7.87
33530-14442 93.5-95 short throw shifter cost 133.56
90301-11015 o ring cost 12.16 total x 4
33531-14010 boot cost 40.42
90387-08134 collar cost 4.22 total x 2
33555-14110 boot cost 38.38
33555-14100 boot cost 10.17
33556-14050 seat cost 1.63
33057-14010 bracket cost 45.94
33570-14070 shifter tri-pod cost 97.65
93381-16016 bolt cost 3.04 total x 4
90179-08095 nut cost 2.46 total x 2
90105-08200 bolt cost 2.06 total x 2
91651-60835 bolt cost 6.08 total x 4
90105-08076 bolt cost .79
90179-08233 nut cost 1.03
90250-06026 pin cost 1.18
90467-21010 clip cost 2.46
33546-22020 bushing cost 29.00 ea x 2
Clutch parts/pedals
SC300/SC400 5 speed conversion pedal set $355
58280-14080 boot/plate assy list 25.72 cost 24.33
SC300 Manual Shifter Boot $58
31470-14060 slave cylinder list 83.38 cost 62.53
90080-10055 bolt list 1.21 cost .91 x 2
31410-14310 master cylinder list 150.31 cost 112.73
90179-08237 nut list 1.24 cost .93 ea x 2
31481-14260 tube list 32.07 cost 24.05
96816-50335 hose list 31.09 cost 23.32
31484-24010 bracket list 8.48 cost 6.36
31482-14060 tube list 15.00 cost 11.25
90119-06406 bolt list 1.01 cost .76
96991-10080 clip list 1.58 cost 1.18 ea x 2
90119-06733 bolt list .95 cost .71
00475-1BF03 brake fluid pint list 5.81 cost 4.36 ea x 2
90363-12002-77 BEARING,PILOT LIST 8.65 COST 6.49
96152-00500 RING, SNAP LIST 3.36 COST 2.52
90903-63001 BEARING , RELEASE LIST 81.00 COST 60.75
90560-50001 SPACER LIST 7.36 COST 5.52
90560-79001 SPACER LIST 3.02 COST 2.26
90206-12006 WASHER, LIST 2.01 COST 1.51
90520-75001 RING, SNAP LIST 3.74 COST 2.80
31264-14060 SPRING, LIST 3.74 COST 2.80
31231-14050 HUB, LIST 44.28 COST 33.21
31204-14060 FORK LIST 88.70 COST 66.52
90119-08079 BOLT, COVER LIST 0.75 COST 0.56 EA X 6
90910-02115 BOLT FW LIST 12.18 COST 9.13 EA X 8
13450-0W011 FLYWHEEL LIST 831.35 COST 623.51
31210-14170-84 REMAN COVER LIST 174.02 COST 139.61 [ includes 7.00 core charge ]
steering reservoir. 44360-24042

RPS Street Disc for 1993-98 Supra TT $521.55
Part # Disc-22170-ST
10% stiffer



Rear Differential/Driveshaft/Axles
Diff JDM 3.26 LSD supra
Custom driveshaft $375
Rubber rear driveshaft coupling from supra TT 37511-30020 COUPLING, FLEXIBLE cost $307.06 price $228.72
42340-14140 LH drive axle list 568.87 cost 426.65
42330-24030 SHAFT ASSY, RR DRIVE cost $437.10 price $325.58(not needed)
Oil pressure sensor mod / Gauges
90401-19008 union bolt $33
90430-20016 Gasket $1.28
90301-68005 O-ring $3.67
VDO-360086 Sender press 100PSI 1/8 $32.29
VDO-350106 Gauge press 100PSI CV $44.99
VDO-150121 Gauge Turbo Mech 30HG-25 $59.99
Auto Meter 3222 Nylon Tubing$6.72
1/8 NPT TO 1/8 BSPT $11.21
T-FITTING ADAPTER FOR BOOST GAUGES POWERSTROKE MAP LINE BOOST LINE 1/8NPT DIESEL
VDO-150851
Fuel Pump
Walbro 255 in tank fuel pump with setup kit $100
Engine
2JZ GTE supra (rear sump) swap $3500
Tial 50mm Q Blow Off Valve $260
GREDDY TRUST INTERCOOLER KIT US $457.34
Other
fipg sealant $20.50
Toyota OEM Engine Gasket / Rebuild Kit Supra $465
Fan Shroud for SC300 92-00 $199.00
gallon toyota red coolant
QTEC30CP

xshurikx

I believe i saw your build, and it seems you got a lot of new parts for it, so it looks pretty expensive.

I found a shop out in NJ that does these swaps for a living, all sorts and lexus is a big part. they can order if they dont have an engine straight from Japan, 1J or 2J.
I am leaning towards a 1J for the simple fact that I dont care if its 1 or twin turbo and i rather have the smaller displacement preferrably on a 6spd. If i can make that happen it would be like winning the lotto (sort of)

now i just need to price it out and see, since i cant do it myself i have to rely that they do a good job.

mikef

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1jzgte is still twin turbo 2.5L vs 3.0L, both are good but if you need to pass emissions or anything like that a 2jzgte would be your best bet. and you cant call your local toyota dealer for 1j parts.
I was thinking about the 1j a lot but at the end you wish that 2jz was in. its worth just to keep saving for one. i been saving for a long time.