s362 vs pte 6266
02-12-14, 05:16 PM
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Ed - I don't know about you lol but I will never ever spend 1700- 1800$ on a Turbo doesn't matter who makes it and what's it made out of.
I just think it's too much $$$ for a Turbo for the average person!
I would spend that money or more on an ecu though!
Ever got a price on rebuilding bb turbos? It's ridiculous , it's the price of a new one.thats a turn off for me.
I just think it's too much $$$ for a Turbo for the average person!
I would spend that money or more on an ecu though!
Ever got a price on rebuilding bb turbos? It's ridiculous , it's the price of a new one.thats a turn off for me.
02-12-14, 05:27 PM
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ahh , excuse me , but did you actually click the link on second supraforums link . its actually on a stock motor , but the point is really about the shaft sizing being increased to withstand higher thrust .. the sec gen of 6266 is actually a torque monster and spool monster of a turbo ..
I personally think that if you really want to prove the value of these types (sizes) of turbos put them on a stock JZ motor with oem accessories IE: intake, TB, IC, cams and let them shine.
Reason being this 62 mm does not have the ability to move enough CFM especially through a 5 ETS intercooler or a plenum RMR that is Approx 40% larger in volume and feed the cams in either thread. In my opinion this is like running a Stock CT12 on a BB chevy and hoping for miracles, the motor just eats it up.
or like a Pro mod on a 1.6 liter stock Honda.
Just my observation.
PS. In the IP Thread the same car they bolted an 8285 and made 1300+. Get my point!!!!
This is like saying what motor you bolting to that turbo to!!!.
Not a fan of PTE but combinations are everything both good and bad.
Just sayin!!!!!!!!!!!
Also I believe that both these Companies IP and SP are deep in the pocket of PTE not a bad thing but it is what it is.
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02-13-14, 05:09 AM
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the bb is 1700 the jb is 1000 bucks (like the bw price)
so if you are saying the 62mm does not move enough air, should I be looking more towards a 64 mm turbo?
I would go to a 67, but I plan on running a r154, and that will be the limiting factor in the setup and I know a 67 on e85 would make more than enough power to blow up the r154.
do the jb pte turbos come with the larger shaft as well? or is that only the bb?
so if you are saying the 62mm does not move enough air, should I be looking more towards a 64 mm turbo?
I would go to a 67, but I plan on running a r154, and that will be the limiting factor in the setup and I know a 67 on e85 would make more than enough power to blow up the r154.
do the jb pte turbos come with the larger shaft as well? or is that only the bb?
02-13-14, 05:52 AM
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the bb is 1700 the jb is 1000 bucks (like the bw price)
so if you are saying the 62mm does not move enough air, should I be looking more towards a 64 mm turbo?
I would go to a 67, but I plan on running a r154, and that will be the limiting factor in the setup and I know a 67 on e85 would make more than enough power to blow up the r154.
do the jb pte turbos come with the larger shaft as well? or is that only the bb?
so if you are saying the 62mm does not move enough air, should I be looking more towards a 64 mm turbo?
I would go to a 67, but I plan on running a r154, and that will be the limiting factor in the setup and I know a 67 on e85 would make more than enough power to blow up the r154.
do the jb pte turbos come with the larger shaft as well? or is that only the bb?
So your buying a turbo based on your trans
The 62mm not moving enough cfm was directed at the SF links that ED posted as both those cars were cammed with big intakes ETC.ETC.
Not familiar with the JB PTE and shaft size but I can tell you that the non BB seem more prone to failure, as I'm sure others will agree.
I will say that the new 64 mm BW coming out will be a badass little turbo with spool similar to a 60mm and CFM volume similar to a 67mm.
02-13-14, 09:25 AM
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[QUOTE=blk&blu*j;8378407]The R154 will handle 700 hp without to many issues.
So your buying a turbo based on your trans
it makes sense to me to do that.
that way I can get the most out of the turbo, and the most out of the car.
there wouldn't really be a reason to buy a big turbo if you cant even be in the efficiently range for the turbo.
and Ill probably end up getting that 64mm. haven't seen any results yet, but they sponsors are talking huge game about it.
I plan on doing a build in a few stages.
you know start with a stock block
then a second stage of built head
then a third stage of all out built motor
So your buying a turbo based on your trans
it makes sense to me to do that.
that way I can get the most out of the turbo, and the most out of the car.
there wouldn't really be a reason to buy a big turbo if you cant even be in the efficiently range for the turbo.
and Ill probably end up getting that 64mm. haven't seen any results yet, but they sponsors are talking huge game about it.
I plan on doing a build in a few stages.
you know start with a stock block
then a second stage of built head
then a third stage of all out built motor
02-14-14, 06:01 AM
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can you explain further?
02-14-14, 08:49 AM
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I am writing this from years of experience !!! In the last 3-4 years I have rebuilt 4 PTE turbos, 6765. The 5th is still in its org box. I installed it drove 1 day, blew the rear seal. I was told each and every time " oil contamination " . let me clear this up real quick. I have a cheap 10 year old Ebay OBX turbo. Every time the Precision took a chit, i would reinstall the OBX. Never did I change the oil after swapping the turbos out 
. The 5th 6765 broke a year and a half ago. My Ebay special is still in the car and running strong.
I have, but have not yet install a BW s366. The OBX is and has been a super dependable turbo, however very very laggy. 103 hot side.If it wasn't for that fact I would never replace the OBX. For obvious reason I went with the BW this time around. Besides everyone of the cars I've helped build, we ran BW's. And every single one of those car are still on the road running stong. Good luck in what ever you decide to do.
. The 5th 6765 broke a year and a half ago. My Ebay special is still in the car and running strong. I have, but have not yet install a BW s366. The OBX is and has been a super dependable turbo, however very very laggy. 103 hot side
.If it wasn't for that fact I would never replace the OBX. For obvious reason I went with the BW this time around. Besides everyone of the cars I've helped build, we ran BW's. And every single one of those car are still on the road running stong. Good luck in what ever you decide to do.
02-14-14, 09:03 AM
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I am writing this from years of experience !!! In the last 3-4 years I have rebuilt 4 PTE turbos, 6765. The 5th is still in its org box. I installed it drove 1 day, blew the rear seal. I was told each and every time " oil contamination " . let me clear this up real quick. I have a cheap 10 year old Ebay OBX turbo. Every time the Precision took a chit, i would reinstall the OBX. Never did I change the oil after swapping the turbos out . The 5th 6765 broke a year and a half ago. My Ebay special is still in the car and running strong.
I have, but have not yet install a BW s366. The OBX is and has been a super dependable turbo, however very very laggy. 103 hot side.If it wasn't for that fact I would never replace the OBX. For obvious reason I went with the BW this time around. Besides everyone of the cars I've helped build, we ran BW's. And every single one of those car are still on the road running stong. Good luck in what ever you decide to do.
. The 5th 6765 broke a year and a half ago. My Ebay special is still in the car and running strong. I have, but have not yet install a BW s366. The OBX is and has been a super dependable turbo, however very very laggy. 103 hot side
.If it wasn't for that fact I would never replace the OBX. For obvious reason I went with the BW this time around. Besides everyone of the cars I've helped build, we ran BW's. And every single one of those car are still on the road running stong. Good luck in what ever you decide to do.
02-15-14, 02:11 PM
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LMFAO. So basically ebay turbos are better than PTE. Instead of people dissing ebay turbos and turbo kits...PTE is the new trash turbo.
edit: Okay sorry for my dramatic words. But it is just surprising since I've seen PTE do so great on some high power cars. I figure it's impossible to sell this turbo now. I feel like a chump sitting on a hunk of useless metal lol
edit: Okay sorry for my dramatic words. But it is just surprising since I've seen PTE do so great on some high power cars. I figure it's impossible to sell this turbo now. I feel like a chump sitting on a hunk of useless metal lol
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02-15-14, 02:21 PM
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I am writing this from years of experience !!! In the last 3-4 years I have rebuilt 4 PTE turbos, 6765. The 5th is still in its org box. I installed it drove 1 day, blew the rear seal. I was told each and every time " oil contamination " . let me clear this up real quick. I have a cheap 10 year old Ebay OBX turbo. Every time the Precision took a chit, i would reinstall the OBX. Never did I change the oil after swapping the turbos out . The 5th 6765 broke a year and a half ago. My Ebay special is still in the car and running strong.
I have, but have not yet install a BW s366. The OBX is and has been a super dependable turbo, however very very laggy. 103 hot side.If it wasn't for that fact I would never replace the OBX. For obvious reason I went with the BW this time around. Besides everyone of the cars I've helped build, we ran BW's. And every single one of those car are still on the road running stong. Good luck in what ever you decide to do.
. The 5th 6765 broke a year and a half ago. My Ebay special is still in the car and running strong. I have, but have not yet install a BW s366. The OBX is and has been a super dependable turbo, however very very laggy. 103 hot side
.If it wasn't for that fact I would never replace the OBX. For obvious reason I went with the BW this time around. Besides everyone of the cars I've helped build, we ran BW's. And every single one of those car are still on the road running stong. Good luck in what ever you decide to do.
