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Old 10-02-13, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SC400slide
If the Cats are red hot, they are clogged. If you're deperate today, what you can do is remove the Y-pipe and look inside the cats. If the honeycomb is somewhat melted across restricting airflow and o2 reading, your cats will need to be replaced.
Yea that is my plan...I am going to try to get he exhaust off right after the y-pipe and right after the second cat....and check them out and most likely punch out the honeycomb in them and put it back together and see if it helps.

I decided not to take it to the shop quite yet as I would like to see what I can do on my own.

Please do not flame but do you think it would be worth it to spend $100 or so on the obx header...I figure it couldnt hurt to open up the exhaust a bit
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Have you checked the ignition timing with the diagnostic terminal shorted .. should be 10 BDTC (but check your hood sticker) if timing is off enough the idle speed would suffer.
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Originally Posted by CatManD3W
I am agetting codes 24, 28 and 31, I am able to unplug the Karmen Vortex sensor completely and the engine running doesnt change at all...Do you think it would be good to replace the MAF sensor to start as well as the o2 sensors?

Is the idle supposed to react when I unplug the MAF? Is it supposed to shudder or something?

I would also like to find out an answer for this.....my idle is fine but when i get up to 3k in rpm range it is really sluggish and gets stuck in the 3k -4k range....it runs great but when I step on it and it gets up to that range it boggs down..would you suggest getting another MAF and replacing the o2 sensor to start...btw I have owned the car for 2 months and this problem just started to happen...sometimes it even stalls out on me when I fire it up every once in a while.

I have tried a different ecu on mine as well and it made it worse....checked all vacuum lines and they are good....I can only suspect it has to be the MAF or o2 sensors...

I have already replaced cap, rotor, plug wires and spark plugs..and tried a different ECU


What would you guys recommend to start with first?
Hey bro, Ive been having almost the exact same problems with my 92 Sc. I've pretty much tried EVERY THING that you have, give or take a few. But if you do manage to figure out what is causing it can you give me a heads up? Because honestly my car has been doing it for 2-3 weeks and it really is getting frustrating. Anyway, good luck in solving the problem !
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Originally Posted by Stock4AG
Have you checked the ignition timing with the diagnostic terminal shorted .. should be 10 BDTC (but check your hood sticker) if timing is off enough the idle speed would suffer.
Could you please elaborate a bit more on this? How to check the ignition timing with the diagnostic terminal shorted??
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There should be a plastic box called diagnostic on the driver side of engine bay, open it and you will see some grease coated terminals, engine idling the best you can after warmed up, put wire into terminal TE1 and E1 (I think, check the sticker under YOUR hood will tell you exactly which 2 terminals to jumper). Point timing gun at timing mark (lower timing belt cover, crank pulley area), it should be flashing around 10 BDTC, if not, you loosen the distributor and rotate it to get it to 10 BDTC, while the car is idling.
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Originally Posted by Stock4AG
There should be a plastic box called diagnostic on the driver side of engine bay, open it and you will see some grease coated terminals, engine idling the best you can after warmed up, put wire into terminal TE1 and E1 (I think, check the sticker under YOUR hood will tell you exactly which 2 terminals to jumper). Point timing gun at timing mark (lower timing belt cover, crank pulley area), it should be flashing around 10 BDTC, if not, you loosen the distributor and rotate it to get it to 10 BDTC, while the car is idling.
Thanks....My issues have come back again as it will not idle by itself again.....I will try to get someone to hold it steady around 800 rpm and check it out.

Appreciate all the help from everyone!!!
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Attempted to remove the exhaust....bolts are to corroded and rusted away to get em out...Only way would be cut them off.

Im not sure what else to try.....The problem just seems to get reappearing no matter what I try to do... I have run out of ideas here.

I may just end up pulling the motor and start saving for a 2jzgte swap. Would rather put the money towards a swap then wasting it on parts to try to fix the 2jzge
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Originally Posted by CatManD3W
Attempted to remove the exhaust....bolts are to corroded and rusted away to get em out...Only way would be cut them off.

Im not sure what else to try.....The problem just seems to get reappearing no matter what I try to do... I have run out of ideas here.

I may just end up pulling the motor and start saving for a 2jzgte swap. Would rather put the money towards a swap then wasting it on parts to try to fix the 2jzge
You sure have a lot of patience for this car! If I had it I would have given up already.

As a last resort, try getting out the propane torch and makin' those bolts red chunks of metal. Is there are threads exposed, get a candlestick and touch it to the hot bolt or nut then the wax will lubricate the threads, as it is very slippery and melted.
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Anybody that lives close by would that like to help me with yanking out the 2jzge motor, looking for someone who has done it before and knows exactly needs to be unbolted, wiring, etc...:thumbup

If you have an engine hoist that would be great as well

Let me know...
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Originally Posted by CatManD3W
Anybody that lives close by would that like to help me with yanking out the 2jzge motor, looking for someone who has done it before and knows exactly needs to be unbolted, wiring, etc...:thumbup

If you have an engine hoist that would be great as well

Let me know...
Guess your gonna cut your loss.
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Originally Posted by CatManD3W
Anybody that lives close by would that like to help me with yanking out the 2jzge motor, looking for someone who has done it before and knows exactly needs to be unbolted, wiring, etc...:thumbup

If you have an engine hoist that would be great as well

Let me know...
Like Brianmoss said,cut your losses. What are you gonna do with the engine?

I guess you will most likely never know what went wrong.

Also, to pull the engine, you will need to remove the exhaust, anyways, so why dont you just cut those pipes down and take a look in the cats? Wouldn't hurt, especially if your'e gonna upgrade your exhaust.
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Originally Posted by SC400slide
Like Brianmoss said,cut your losses. What are you gonna do with the engine?

I guess you will most likely never know what went wrong.

Also, to pull the engine, you will need to remove the exhaust, anyways, so why dont you just cut those pipes down and take a look in the cats? Wouldn't hurt, especially if your'e gonna upgrade your exhaust.
I plan on trying to sell the engine. I will most likely take the head off and see if it is the head gasket or not once I pull the motor out. If that is the case I may just replace it and sell the engine off to put towards the swap. I originally bought the car as a project vehicle anyways...it is not my DD and if it takes me awhile to get the parts gathered up I need for the swap so be it.
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Just went through the whole thread hoping you had fixed the problem. I've been going through the same thing for about 3 months now. starting to lose hope
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I was having a similar problem with my 92 sc300. It has 177K miles and I was noticing a loss of power whenever I went to step on it.

Replaced the wires, plugs, etc. Last week I busted out all the honeycomb from the rear cat because it seemed to be clogged. When I shined a flashlight through one end and looked through the camera from the other, I couldn't see any light coming through.

Put the empty cat back on and my car seems much more responsive. Not 100% but definitely better. Although louder without the honeycomb. I can definitely say its more cooperative when I want it to GO.

Need to check the other cat & order replacements since I live in cali and expect smog soon. :-)

Good luck!
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I have decided to pull the motor out anyways as im sure the rear main seal is shot as the back of the motor has a lot of oil on it as well as the transmission bellhousing. I will be cutting the exhaust off here sometime this week and will update the thread if I find out the cats were clogged.


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