Any 4 cylinder SC's???
07-25-13, 04:51 PM
#1
Any 4 cylinder SC's???
At $4.59 for premium a thought hit me...has anyone done a 4 cylinder swap? I know everyone like's there power but what about there mpg lol? Gas prices are killing my pockets...and it's supposed to get worse!
I would do a 4 cylinder swap if there were any decent options. I'll be the test dummy.
I would do a 4 cylinder swap if there were any decent options. I'll be the test dummy.
07-25-13, 05:34 PM
#4
trust me you wont get as much mileage as you think either, that little 4 cylinder will be struggling the whole time to power the heavy body, you might save $20-$30 a week tops is it even worth it ?
Plus the thought of having such a slow , sluggish heavy car , you might as well sell it for something else.
Plus the thought of having such a slow , sluggish heavy car , you might as well sell it for something else.
07-25-13, 05:46 PM
#6
I know none of you guys using a damn SC300 diff in your 99 400 giving damn 16-17 mpg combined! i dont fill my tank so maybe thats my issue, but when i do, i get a week with back & forth to work & misc dates i go on once or twice. Gas is ranging for 3.99-4.14 so im screwed until i get my stock diff back -_-.
07-25-13, 06:41 PM
#7
The SC is not supposed to be gas efficient, if it was it wouldn't be an SC IMO, but it wouldn't be that hard to do but not a whole lot of great rwd 4 cylinder toyota motors around that aren't truck motors, unless you are talking about other brands like a ka24 swap wouldn't be crazy difficult I imagine, but in the SC I don't think it would be fun or peppy at all, and might still use a fair amount of gas due to working harder unless you gear up and loose top end...
generally it is easier to buy a whole another 4 cylinder toyota to drive to work than the cost of a custom motor swap on your SC. you can floor a celica, mr2, or corolla all the way to work and still be better off, but thats only cause they are much lighter, well some of the models anyways.
generally it is easier to buy a whole another 4 cylinder toyota to drive to work than the cost of a custom motor swap on your SC. you can floor a celica, mr2, or corolla all the way to work and still be better off, but thats only cause they are much lighter, well some of the models anyways.
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07-25-13, 09:14 PM
#11
The thought of a 4 cylinder in an SC is just wrong.
Weight wouldnt be an issue. My SC and my Corolla weighs about the same, I think a couple hundred pounds different. Also two cylinder difference. But the 4 cylinder JDM 4AGE 20V or the 4AGTE pushes out up to 160hp or more with mods. 2JZ is much stronger.
Weight wouldnt be an issue. My SC and my Corolla weighs about the same, I think a couple hundred pounds different. Also two cylinder difference. But the 4 cylinder JDM 4AGE 20V or the 4AGTE pushes out up to 160hp or more with mods. 2JZ is much stronger.
07-25-13, 11:52 PM
#12
I was the guy who made the thread about the Pontiac Solstice turbo 2.0L 4cyl in the SC.
I posted it for three reasons only mostly as a curiosity:
1) That engine is a near direct bolt on to an R154 manual in an SC with the Solstice bellhousing
2) The LNF engine will net 290hp/340ft-lb with a $600 factory GM ECU reflash kit. In factory tune it has 260ft-lb at 2400rpm. The reflashed version gives that 340ft-lb at 3600rpm. That's very comparable to a *stock* 1JZGTE VVT-i. Not for further potential, mind you because a 2.0L won't have much low end spool with a bigger turbo. It was engineered for a 3300lb HHR SS though. A non-turbo 2JZ-GE still struggles more than this engine would to get an SC out of its own way but we all know an NA-T conversion or GTE swap changes this which brings me to...
3) Most importantly, it's a 100% legal engine to swap in for smog. Even Cali smog. Only a 2JZGTE USDM swap can be similarly legal. Edit: or an LS1 V8 or any other USA-spec drivetrain that is the same year or newer than your car's model year. The point was that the 2.0L turbo already bolts to a Toyota transmission everyone uses thus possibly making it less of a swap headache OTHER than an easier but very expensive USDM 2JZGTE swap.
This is, however, VERY impractical. It's easily as expensive to swap as any 2JZGTE or possibly an LS1. I did NOT make that academic thread with fuel economy in mind. That 2.0L would probably need a 4.08 rear end just like a stock 1JZ manual Soarer to make its small displacement work for the chassis. Better fuel economy than a JZ-anything? Maybe, but I doubt it.
OP, the SC is not a gas conscious car. It never was and never will be no matter what is under the hood. It's a Japanese muscle coupe that, in some form, needs 300hp+. You can't criticize a 1971 Challenger 340 of not being gas conscious because of its nature and same is true of the SC.
I posted it for three reasons only mostly as a curiosity:
1) That engine is a near direct bolt on to an R154 manual in an SC with the Solstice bellhousing
2) The LNF engine will net 290hp/340ft-lb with a $600 factory GM ECU reflash kit. In factory tune it has 260ft-lb at 2400rpm. The reflashed version gives that 340ft-lb at 3600rpm. That's very comparable to a *stock* 1JZGTE VVT-i. Not for further potential, mind you because a 2.0L won't have much low end spool with a bigger turbo. It was engineered for a 3300lb HHR SS though. A non-turbo 2JZ-GE still struggles more than this engine would to get an SC out of its own way but we all know an NA-T conversion or GTE swap changes this which brings me to...
3) Most importantly, it's a 100% legal engine to swap in for smog. Even Cali smog. Only a 2JZGTE USDM swap can be similarly legal. Edit: or an LS1 V8 or any other USA-spec drivetrain that is the same year or newer than your car's model year. The point was that the 2.0L turbo already bolts to a Toyota transmission everyone uses thus possibly making it less of a swap headache OTHER than an easier but very expensive USDM 2JZGTE swap.
This is, however, VERY impractical. It's easily as expensive to swap as any 2JZGTE or possibly an LS1. I did NOT make that academic thread with fuel economy in mind. That 2.0L would probably need a 4.08 rear end just like a stock 1JZ manual Soarer to make its small displacement work for the chassis. Better fuel economy than a JZ-anything? Maybe, but I doubt it.
OP, the SC is not a gas conscious car. It never was and never will be no matter what is under the hood. It's a Japanese muscle coupe that, in some form, needs 300hp+. You can't criticize a 1971 Challenger 340 of not being gas conscious because of its nature and same is true of the SC.
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