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Old 08-14-12, 09:49 PM
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Ok, I know my o2 sensors aren't bad or else a check engine light would come on but I have a 94 SC4 with original o2 sensors and I'm getting baddd mpg. Almost as bad as my Ford Expedition.
I did a tune up and barely saw an increase in mpg, so can old sensors just be dirty and casuing bad air/fuel mixture?
Old 08-15-12, 05:21 AM
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Yes! I recently changed mine and MPG jumped from about 19mpg to 22.38mpg. Purchased thru RockAuto on sale for I think $44 each.
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Awesomeee. Thanks for the heads up. Will be ordering some soon.
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absolutely! Be sure to replace them as a set. If the ECU sees one responding faster than the other, it will likely trigger a check engine light. If it doesn't it will assume the fuel mixture is off and compensate for it, decreasing the life of your new sensor.
Old 08-16-12, 03:16 PM
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Went to Rockauto, prices all over the board, AWSCI for $35.00 Denso and Delco for twice that. I thought my 93 SC400 was OBD1, they say it has 2 upstream and 2 down stream?
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How many O2 sensors are there for the VVT-i 2jz cars?
Old 11-02-12, 02:47 PM
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Anyone know?
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you never said your mileage on the originals. the non heated type found on non-cali odb1 (majority of SC's) are supposed to be replaced every 50k miles for optimal performance and mpg and emissions.

heated type found on the later models and cali models should be replaced every 80-100k miles.

every model is a little different, stick a flashlight down there and take a look.
the 2jzge's with non heated o2's have 2 on the manifold for sure.
I think the vvti's have the same 2 on the manifold and one after the cat, but im not 100% on that.
sc400 no idea, really its best to actually go look at your car, you never know if someone has swapped something around on you, which is becoming more and more likely these days.
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on the VVT-i ones should be 2 before the cats, one for the front 3 cyl., the other for the back 3. also one after the cat. Just need to replace the front 2 if you want to see improved gas mileage, the one after the cat is there just to make sure the cats are working.

for the 1UZ, should be 2 upstream (one for each bank of cylinders) and 2 downstream. Again, for better mpg get the 2 upstream ones.
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Thanks for the responses. I should have been more clear. '98-'00 SC300 w/ VVT-i. I have approx. 185k miles. I think the last time it was changed was at 60k miles.
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heated are recommended every 100,000 miles. they last twice as long as the non heated variety.
as Stick3 pointed out, you want to change the front ones. only need to replace the rears if you pick up a code for them.
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Originally Posted by StiCk3
on the VVT-i ones should be 2 before the cats, one for the front 3 cyl., the other for the back 3. also one after the cat. Just need to replace the front 2 if you want to see improved gas mileage, the one after the cat is there just to make sure the cats are working.

for the 1UZ, should be 2 upstream (one for each bank of cylinders) and 2 downstream. Again, for better mpg get the 2 upstream ones.
Thanks for the 1UZ tip. I got CEL 37 for 02 Sensors on my 92 SC 400 and I'm unsure which ones to replace. Since my MPG is around 13(horrible I know) would there be anything wrong with buying all four at once? I know it's expensive, but MPG is important to me. I mean over time these things wear out correct? Should I just get the two Upstream ones for now? I'm going to order from Rock Auto in about an hour along with a Power Steering Pump/Filter. I rather make one big order and fix everything at once.
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Originally Posted by Flygfsh
Yes! I recently changed mine and MPG jumped from about 19mpg to 22.38mpg. Purchased thru RockAuto on sale for I think $44 each.
You got them 44 bucks each? I had to pay over a hundred bucks each to get mine. Is this a case of stupid Auto Zone, or stupid me???
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