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Old 08-18-10, 03:16 PM
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Hey there fellow SC enthusiasts I finally got my SC300 on the road after having it for a year & a half, it was automatic but I converted to stick. But now I've been driving it for a couple of days & I've noticed that the car is running at really high revs. It does 60 MPH at 4,000 RPM's I hope that's not normal it feels like it has a higher gear ratio like 4:10's or something it also feels like it needs another gear WTF, would this have to do anything with having 19" rims IDK please if you have any info please let me know I would really appreciate it.
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Actually it's higher. It's 4.27.

And no, that is not normal at all. Should be about 2600 RPM in 5th with stock tire diameter and a w58. If you tire diameter is larger than stock, then it should be at slightly lower revs.

Your speedo is obviously off it that is what you are relating speed to, though. It does not account for the gearing change you made with the swap. You're probably going like 9x mph! Use a speed per gear calculator and print out the results to memorize your important speed limits until you get a speedo healer or gps.

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A w58 swap should make the speedo read off, but you are actually going slower than the speedo reads. I'm not sure how many MPH it will be off, but it feels like around 6-8mph or so.

Your 19s may actually be correcting the slow speedo to some degree depending on overall height...

I drive to work at between 70 and 75 indicated, and I can tell that there is no way I am really going that fast. You should not be turning 4k at 60 indicated regardless.

Is your clutch slipping maybe? That's alot of RPMs for that speed....
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Originally Posted by stockhatch
A w58 swap should make the speedo read off, but you are actually going slower than the speedo reads. I'm not sure how many MPH it will be off, but it feels like around 6-8mph or so.

Your 19s may actually be correcting the slow speedo to some degree depending on overall height...

I drive to work at between 70 and 75 indicated, and I can tell that there is no way I am really going that fast. You should not be turning 4k at 60 indicated regardless.

Is your clutch slipping maybe? That's alot of RPMs for that speed....
Nah I know my clutch is not slipping plus its brand new & thanks 4 everything
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Originally Posted by BartleDoo
Actually it's higher. It's 4.27.

And no, that is not normal at all. Should be about 2600 RPM in 5th with stock tire diameter and a w58. If you tire diameter is larger than stock, then it should be at slightly lower revs.

Your speedo is obviously off it that is what you are relating speed to, though. It does not account for the gearing change you made with the swap. You're probably going like 9x mph! Use a speed per gear calculator and print out the results to memorize your important speed limits until you get a speedo healer or gps.
Nah there's no way I'm going 9X MPH, because ppl stay next to me/ pass me but thanx for the response I gotta try that speed per gear calculator thing.
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i usually run 70mph at 3k rpms but i have 17" rims w/ 275 tires in the rear....
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Swap the cluster?
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Originally Posted by nfordhk
Swap the cluster?
I'm pretty sure the guy who had it before me did.
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Well if your cluster is swapped then you shouldn't be reading very far off because the only difference is then between your 4.27 diff and the manual's 4.08 (correct me if I'm wrong on that value). Your tach must be messed up then because I don't see how your clutch would be slipping and stay exactly at 4000 while cruising at constant speed. Either that or your cluster wasn't swapped and everybody around you is driving reallllly fast.
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my car was a original auto, i have swapped it to a 5spd still using the auto diff and at 60mph in 5th gear im at 2500rpm...oh and im on 18's too
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Originally Posted by 94_soarer
my car was a original auto, i have swapped it to a 5spd still using the auto diff and at 60mph in 5th gear im at 2500rpm...oh and im on 18's too
Damn it! Then WTF is up with my car, how can I fix it I'm losing my patients.
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If you're driving a w58 equipped SC300 with the stock auto diff, then something electrical is lying to you. When your speedo reads 60 MPH and 4000 RPM, either your car is going way faster than 60, or your engine is nowhere near 4000 RPM.
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Does the car sound like it's rev'd to 4000rpm? It's going to heard to hear it over the road but give it a shot.
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Let's use some process of elimination. Answer the following questions and maybe we can figure it out.

Before the swap, what was normal at 60MPH?
When you swapped out the transmission, where did you get your VSS from? Electronic or mechanical adapter?

Your RPM should be accurate unless you have mess around with the igniter which is part of the ignition system, it's not part of the transmission. If it reads 4k RPM, it's probably correct. I am pretty sure your VSS may be at fault which is part of the transmission. Unless there are anomaly that is unusual to cause your problem to occur.

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Old 08-20-10, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hypervish
Does the car sound like it's rev'd to 4000rpm? It's going to heard to hear it over the road but give it a shot.
The problem is that I bought the car like 2 years ago automatic with stock exhaust & I drove for a day & parked it until now that I put an after market exhaust, bigger rims, & converted stick so I don't remember what the rpm where at 60 mph b4 all the changes because back then you wouldn't even here the car run it was so quiet but now it sounds like its reving high but not 4,000 rpm high.


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