GTE upper FFIM info for stock lowers..
03-04-10, 01:58 PM
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GTE upper FFIM info for stock lowers..
Ok, this is just for those of you that were curious about an "inexpensive" way to go to an FFIM. Some of you may remember djkevin510's thread where he fitted the stock GTE upper manifold section to the stock GE lower runners (for ref.: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/per...r-runners.html ) ..Well I picked up the manifold from him not too long ago (thanks again Kevin
) and decided to see how well the runners lined up..
After a bit of measuring, it has come down to one simple solution to use the GTE upper on your stock lower runners. Cylinder runners # 2,3,5 need to be port matched to line up perfectly. So after a bit more grinding with a die-grinder and some sanding and polishing, they line up perfectly and fitment is dead on under the hood. But in doing this, if you were to use either the stock GTE or GE gasket, you will have line problems, and not enough material on the gaskets to shave them down, so welding or some heavy duty gasket material/sealer would be a good idea.
But, if you are running a strut tower bar, I would suggest cutting the flanges of both the GE lower runners and the GTE upper where they would bolt together and weld them to gain clearance. Also for clearance purposes, as most of you would know, the PS pump reservoir needs to be moved..Seeing as how this is the point that I am at now, once it is moved, I will have some pictures later tonight or this following week.
Just though I would share some info
) and decided to see how well the runners lined up..After a bit of measuring, it has come down to one simple solution to use the GTE upper on your stock lower runners. Cylinder runners # 2,3,5 need to be port matched to line up perfectly. So after a bit more grinding with a die-grinder and some sanding and polishing, they line up perfectly and fitment is dead on under the hood. But in doing this, if you were to use either the stock GTE or GE gasket, you will have line problems, and not enough material on the gaskets to shave them down, so welding or some heavy duty gasket material/sealer would be a good idea.
But, if you are running a strut tower bar, I would suggest cutting the flanges of both the GE lower runners and the GTE upper where they would bolt together and weld them to gain clearance. Also for clearance purposes, as most of you would know, the PS pump reservoir needs to be moved..Seeing as how this is the point that I am at now, once it is moved, I will have some pictures later tonight or this following week.
Just though I would share some info
Last edited by turbodremz; 03-04-10 at 03:44 PM.
03-04-10, 03:43 PM
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And just to clarify, I did not start this..this manifold was a running setup on djkevin's car, but he went a different route due to some tech. diff...I have to say he is the one that gets all the credit for doing the initial research and fitting, Im just taking it a step further.
03-04-10, 03:50 PM
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Not just yet..the manifolds I was talking to you about I will be making, this is just something I picked up to get my car on the road in the meantime while I am putting the first design together for an ffim.
not yet, I just finished wrestling the stock parts off. I will do a test fit in a few hours and take a couple of pictures...link is fixed, sorry about that.
And just to clarify, I did not start this..this manifold was a running setup on djkevin's car, but he went a different route due to some tech. diff...I have to say he is the one that gets all the credit for doing the initial research and fitting, Im just taking it a step further.
not yet, I just finished wrestling the stock parts off. I will do a test fit in a few hours and take a couple of pictures...link is fixed, sorry about that.
And just to clarify, I did not start this..this manifold was a running setup on djkevin's car, but he went a different route due to some tech. diff...I have to say he is the one that gets all the credit for doing the initial research and fitting, Im just taking it a step further.
thats kool i saw kevins thread also it just not alot of info but still interesting. keep us posted with pics when u can thanks
03-04-10, 04:40 PM
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sorry everyone for my unfinished thread about this tt upper manifold to ge lower runnners! after my engine went boom i did not really feel like continue my thread about this becauase i almost gave up on on my car and clublexus because of my stupid mistake of over boosting but turbodreams has convinced me to go keep my sc a build it again so gte here i come! turbodreams can finish this diy i'm sure he can figure out how i did it! goooooo chris!!!!!
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03-04-10, 06:38 PM
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..pics will be up once they are resized.sorry everyone for my unfinished thread about this tt upper manifold to ge lower runnners! after my engine went boom i did not really feel like continue my thread about this becauase i almost gave up on on my car and clublexus because of my stupid mistake of over boosting but turbodreams has convinced me to go keep my sc a build it again so gte here i come! turbodreams can finish this diy i'm sure he can figure out how i did it! goooooo chris!!!!!
..j/k, but it should be running soon if all goes well.PICTURES: sorry for the crap quality, and the mess in the engine bay..still a whole lot of stuff going on under the hood.
How it looks from the top
there are 4 bolts that line up correctly, but for safety sake, and for clearance, I may be cutting the flanges and making it a one piece manifold/lower.
harness sits in stock location, but I will be moving below the manifold and extending the injector harness
Plenty of clearance between BB housing and shock tower.
Just to show that even with the GTE TB, you will still need to relocate the PS reservoir. I should have this done moday.
I will have more pictures as things progress, but this is just to simply inform and show that yes it can be done, and what is needed.
03-04-10, 08:18 PM
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03-05-10, 08:38 AM
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4 out of how many bolts fit? If the hood closes and theres enough bolts to hold it sealed it seems alright.
have you seen this new ebay manifold for the gte, its very inexpensive at $240.
How hard would it be to just fab up that bottom plate to fit the ge lower runners. maybe easier than all that custom welding.
have you seen this new ebay manifold for the gte, its very inexpensive at $240.
How hard would it be to just fab up that bottom plate to fit the ge lower runners. maybe easier than all that custom welding.
03-05-10, 09:54 AM
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4 out of how many bolts fit? If the hood closes and theres enough bolts to hold it sealed it seems alright.
have you seen this new ebay manifold for the gte, its very inexpensive at $240.
How hard would it be to just fab up that bottom plate to fit the ge lower runners. maybe easier than all that custom welding.
have you seen this new ebay manifold for the gte, its very inexpensive at $240.
How hard would it be to just fab up that bottom plate to fit the ge lower runners. maybe easier than all that custom welding.
Hmmm...now you have me thinking. Later on I may have to pick one up and use the spare set of lower runners I have and mock something up..and as for the bolts, its 4 out of 8. 2 in the middle section, and 1 on each outer corner. They seem to hold pretty tight, but Im going to weld them just for my personal insurance with it being installed on a boosted application.
But I will be sure to pick up one of the ones that you posted (pm me the link from ebay) and I will see what I can come up with. I might beable to cut a deal with a machine shop here locally and have some adapter plates made
03-05-10, 10:50 AM
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definately would be less work if we could make the plates.
I just wonder how it bolts on cause we may run into the same problem.
just go to ebay and search 2jzgte intake manifold. cant miss it, seems to be fairly new item though and ive heard nothing about it.
I just wonder how it bolts on cause we may run into the same problem.
just go to ebay and search 2jzgte intake manifold. cant miss it, seems to be fairly new item though and ive heard nothing about it.