2jz-gte + w58...clutch component concerns...
11-01-09, 06:16 AM
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I've had a custom Kevlar Kevlar clutch plate on my w58 for a couple of years. It's successfully held ~420whp and 408wt, though I do not beat on this car. Right now it is the weak link in the most recent upgrade that bumped my number up to those in current sig.
There is no chance in hell that a stock plate handles that power.
There is no chance in hell that a stock plate handles that power.
06-16-14, 08:34 AM
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If you are using w58 it is best to use stock flywheel from 2jzge...Make sure to get it resurfaced and add a beefy clutch and you should be good to go...I am using Competition Clutch Stage 4 on mine and it is holding the power on a single at 12 psi..Like others have said W58 will last as long as you dont beat it...remember the weakest point in W58 is 3rd and 5th gear
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06-16-14, 11:10 AM
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If you are using w58 it is best to use stock flywheel from 2jzge...Make sure to get it resurfaced addadd a beefy clutch and you should be good to go...I am using Competition Clutch Stage 4 on mine and it is holding the power on a single at 12 psi..Like others have said W58 will last as long as you dont beat it...remember the weakest point in W58 is 3rd and 5th gear
06-16-14, 03:15 PM
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Shock from immediate torque is what weakens a W58 over time. It wasn't designed for high horsepower or the sudden surge in torque from a boosted engine. The only boosted engine Toyota ever paired it with was the 200hp 1G-GTE 2.0L straight six with significantly less torque than a 1JZ or 2JZGTE.
92-97 SC400's take well to W58's. Generally boosted JZ's put the transmission into the "borrowed time" category. Some have better luck than others but some people have blown W58's with their turbocharged engines during regular driving. It's not a question of "if" but "when" if you're using one with a turbocharged JZ. A 250-260hp 1UZ... different story.
SC300bd-- the 2JZ-GE M/T flywheel is designed for the W58 5-speed transmission. The 2JZGTE M/T flywheel is a dual-mass unit designed specifically for the V160 6-speed transmission. Then there is the 1JZ-GTE M/T flywheel which is designed exclusively for R154 transmissions. You can't interchange any of these flywheels with a transmission they weren't designed for. As far as bolting them up to the block... all of them bolt up to any JZ series block just the same. There are specific bolts for each flywheel type.
92-97 SC400's take well to W58's. Generally boosted JZ's put the transmission into the "borrowed time" category. Some have better luck than others but some people have blown W58's with their turbocharged engines during regular driving. It's not a question of "if" but "when" if you're using one with a turbocharged JZ. A 250-260hp 1UZ... different story.
SC300bd-- the 2JZ-GE M/T flywheel is designed for the W58 5-speed transmission. The 2JZGTE M/T flywheel is a dual-mass unit designed specifically for the V160 6-speed transmission. Then there is the 1JZ-GTE M/T flywheel which is designed exclusively for R154 transmissions. You can't interchange any of these flywheels with a transmission they weren't designed for. As far as bolting them up to the block... all of them bolt up to any JZ series block just the same. There are specific bolts for each flywheel type.
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if your gonna run a w58 with boost u need to make something else your weakest link, i run 255s on my car because i rather the tires give than the w58. i read on supraforums about a guy going from 255 to 295 and breaking his tranny one week later
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I am planing to buy JUN 2jzge Flywheel and clutch Master Stage3 clutch of 2jzge. so can you tell stage 3 clutch of 2jzge can handle the trouge and power of 2JZGTE or I should go higher stage..
04-25-17, 02:05 PM
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Well I obliterated my stock aristo tranny a while back so im in the process of going 5 speed with a stock w58 trans a buddy gave me. My motor is basically BPU at around 17-18 psi (i did the wastgate bleeder T mod) in TTC mode.
I have a stock clutch right now but i do not know if it can handle it. My buddy also gave me some sort of aftermaker pressure plate that is red (maybe south bend?) but i have no clue what brand it is. Would that aftermarket pressure plate mated with a stock disk suffice the power im putting down (around 400 rwhp). Does anyone know what the limit is for the stock clutch? I really would like to know for sure cz i have a new one sitting around and ill just use that if it will hold the power.
My concerns are that this vehicle is my daily and i drive alot so i dont want anything rash or hard pedal feel wise. I can live with a little stiffer pedal but nothing too extreme. I do, although, drive "sprited" so i want to be able to put the power down and not worry about blowing **** up.
Also im looking into lightweight flywheels but im just worried that it may make alot of noise or chatter. Anybody have experiance with this? Help make my decision, i need to get back in my Lexo, get it on the road, and get the F out of my sisters Honda Prelude (yuck, stupid hondas)...
-Zeeshaun
I have a stock clutch right now but i do not know if it can handle it. My buddy also gave me some sort of aftermaker pressure plate that is red (maybe south bend?) but i have no clue what brand it is. Would that aftermarket pressure plate mated with a stock disk suffice the power im putting down (around 400 rwhp). Does anyone know what the limit is for the stock clutch? I really would like to know for sure cz i have a new one sitting around and ill just use that if it will hold the power.
My concerns are that this vehicle is my daily and i drive alot so i dont want anything rash or hard pedal feel wise. I can live with a little stiffer pedal but nothing too extreme. I do, although, drive "sprited" so i want to be able to put the power down and not worry about blowing **** up.
Also im looking into lightweight flywheels but im just worried that it may make alot of noise or chatter. Anybody have experiance with this? Help make my decision, i need to get back in my Lexo, get it on the road, and get the F out of my sisters Honda Prelude (yuck, stupid hondas)...
-Zeeshaun
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