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Old 04-06-08, 01:32 PM
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I pretty much messed up my motor, i was changing my plugs and I guess something fell in to the hole and when i tried to crack it all i heard was something banging and pinging. I check the plugs and one of them is messed up, the top is plug is completely flat
Anyways i was wondering if I should buy a 2jzgte motor and use my w58(i think they mate together I don't know a deff answer) or do you guys think my block is ok and just get a gte head. I was planing going NA-T in the long run. Just wanted to get some feedback on what you guys would do. I'm kinda on a budget also, im still in college
Old 04-06-08, 01:57 PM
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pull the plug out and use one of those thin magnets and stick into the combustion chamber to pull what ever it is out and put a new spark plug in there and see if it runs right. Who knows you may get lucky.
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I actually shine a flashlight in there and i can see small holes in the top of the piston head.............. it sure doesn't look like any the rest of them, because at first I wasn't aware that something dropped in there
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Before you go chasing another motor down, do a leakdown test and a compression test. I've seen this happen, and while the piston gets a beat up a bit, the motor ends up being fine. If it's messed up, then you already know the drill.
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hrmm whats wrong in this picture
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ouch...i would do like TTSC3 said, and do a leakdown and comp test..i figure if you didnt let it run too long, at the worst you need a new piston...still cheaper than a whole new engine, and a good chance for some Weisco or Arias
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Ya i'm afraid I let it run too long, it won't start, wont even crank. I tried searching with a magnet thingy in the chamber and got nothing, Shine a flashlight down there and it was ugly. Anyone know any vendors that sell good pistons for cheap?? Thinking i might fully build the motor instead of doing a swap, you guys think the block and head is still good?
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Pull the head and look at the piston... you could have bent a valve too. Still all in all you may be able to get new pistons and a new valve or 2 and be fine.
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i would think even with a bent valve and a busted piston at the worst, it should still crank...may run like straight crap, but hey..

and if you didnt find anything with the magnet, could be 1 of 2 things...it either shaved and scored, and destroyed itself into the piston/side of the block/or the spark plug, OR its in your oil pan...

drop the pan, strain the oil, then start at the head..rip it apart is the only 100% sure fire way to see the extent of the damage, and what will need to be replaced.

i would say the block could be machined if its not to bad..go old school, bore it 30over, and order pistons to match..then go from there
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what i see is a set of Bosch plugs. I have heard a few horror stories about these little guys doing serious damage and it may be the cause of your problem. Try another set of plugs and do a leakdown test just to be 100% sure the motor is toast.

The W58 can bolt up to the 2JZGTE, but i wouldn't reccomend it, it might not stand up to the punishment, but there are some NA-T guys who run it with 400hp, no probs.
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1j or 2j?
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2j

Prob a dumb question but is there a DIY pull of the head ... I can see the head studs and such but don't know what tool to use. The sockets are too big
Thanks for the help guys
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