2016 BMW X1 or NX? - Club Lexus Forums


Go Back   Club Lexus Forums > Lexus Model Forums > NX Models
Sign In
Register Forgot Password?

2016 BMW X1 or NX?

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-07-15, 01:58 PM   #1
hohohong
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: wa
Posts: 2
Default 2016 BMW X1 or NX?

BMW just announced X1. I'm digging the look more than NX.

And NX is a little pricier than X1,... I would think.

Dilemma,....
This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Club Lexus!
hohohong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-15, 02:14 PM   #2
mrsinsyder
Rookie
Trader Score: (0)
 
mrsinsyder's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 95
Default

I have a feeling that a well-equipped X1 will be more expensive than an NX. The base X1 has traditionally been stripped down.
mrsinsyder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-15, 02:22 PM   #3
LexBob2
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,709
Default

The NX and X3 are closer in size along with other segment models.
__________________
2013 Audi Q5 Premium Plus.
2014 BMW 328i X Drive Premium, Luxury Line.
LexBob2 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-15, 02:54 PM   #4
Ronn1
Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
Ronn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: VA
Posts: 145
Default

BMW reliability is not as good as Lexus. I have several friends that have had many problems with BMW and Mercedes. They are nice looking, but beware of the issues. I was very interested in the X3 , but decided after my friends problems, I would stick with Lexus.
Ronn1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-15, 04:49 PM   #5
LexBob2
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,709
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronn1 View Post
BMW reliability is not as good as Lexus. I have several friends that have had many problems with BMW and Mercedes. They are nice looking, but beware of the issues. I was very interested in the X3 , but decided after my friends problems, I would stick with Lexus.
While not at Lexus levels, CR says from their Owner Surveys that the reliability of the X1 and X3 in both 4 and 6 cylinder form is Average. It's good to know in advance what to expect reliability-wise though.

I think it's safe to assume the NX will continue the trend of very good reliability.
__________________
2013 Audi Q5 Premium Plus.
2014 BMW 328i X Drive Premium, Luxury Line.
LexBob2 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-15, 05:19 PM   #6
corradoMR2
The pursuit of F Sport
Trader Score: (0)
 
corradoMR2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 5,281
Default

Personally not my cup of tea, but the new X1 looks much improved over the current one especially the interior. It's now FWD based on the Mini platform and is shorter overall than the current one at 175 inches which translates to being about 8 inches shorter than the NX or X3. As some have echoed above, reliability is a question mark with BMW so a caution to buy and keep longer term, but OK as a 3-year lease to stay within warranty. Available this Fall. Option for option, X1 =NX on price, but NX competes with the X3 which the latter is 10-15% more similarly equipped. Good luck in your decision.

Click the image to open in full size.

Click the image to open in full size.
__________________

___________________________________________________________________________
2015 NX200t F Sport, 2014 IS250 AWD F Sport
IS Build Thread: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/buil...ng-thread.html
NX Build Thread: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/nx-m...ld-thread.html
Previous: '13 RX F Sport, '11 CT, '08 IS AWD, '07 RXh, '05 RX
corradoMR2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 12:54 AM   #7
phatm3
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: HI
Posts: 20
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by corradoMR2 View Post
Personally not my cup of tea, but the new X1 looks much improved over the current one especially the interior. It's now FWD based on the Mini platform and is shorter overall than the current one at 175 inches which translates to being about 8 inches shorter than the NX or X3. As some have echoed above, reliability is a question mark with BMW so a caution to buy and keep longer term, but OK as a 3-year lease to stay within warranty. Available this Fall. Option for option, X1 =NX on price, but NX competes with the X3 which the latter is 10-15% more similarly equipped. Good luck in your decision.

Click the image to open in full size.

Click the image to open in full size.
Echoing everyone above, and coming from an ML350 and E46 M3, reliability on these BMWs and MBs are not good. BMW sucks as far as rubber is concerned, bushing and bearings fail early and often. Parts are expensive and labor is 10times more expensive. And I take care of my cars to the point of obsessive. Our MB had to go back to the dealerships several times a year.
Our daughters have Prius cars and no issues whatsoever. Both are over three year old cars. Can't beat Toyota reliability.
Plus the NX blows away the X1 in the looks department. My two cents
phatm3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 05:18 AM   #8
Swacer
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: PA
Posts: 727
Default

The BMW will always be more expensive when you compare apples to apples. The germans have a terrible pricing arrangement in which the "starting" price is a level lower than base, and then everything must be added. Its a very good way to "get what you want", but it makes price comparison impossible.

Personally, I've thought over the last couple years that BMW interiors are looking cheaper and cheaper. Heck, there is a brand new M4 in our parking lot, and with the exception of the display screen, it looks no better than my Chevy Camaro. Which doesn't say much when you're comparing 40k to 74k.

Reliability is a joke for germans, I personally would only lease a german car because at year 3 or 4, you can give it back and make it their problem. A Toyota, you buy and know it will be there in the long term. So if you're looking for a short term possession, maybe reliability doesn't matter to you? But if you're looking beyond 3-4 yrs, the BMW will not work for you.

The other issue too is that the germans have built their cars such that the typical person can not do the work at home. Many times changing brakes and rotors anymore require special "keys" to unlock things. Or special tools for removal. All the more to suck you into the dealership to pay stupid high prices for labor. Lexus is the lowest price per hour of the luxury brands.
__________________
Weekend Toy - 2012 Chevrolet 2SS/RS Camaro~Roto-Fab Cold Air Intake~Stainless Works Exhaust~Stainless Power Headers~VMAX Ported Throttle Body~Tuned By Frost~~GMP Strut Tower Brace~GEN5DYI Spare Clutch Reservior~Barton Short Throw~ShowStopper Side Markers~UMI Performance Trailing Arms~UMI Performance Tunnel Brace~Elite Engineering Catch Can~VMR V710 Wheels w/Nitto Invos

Daily Driver - 2015 Lexus NX200T AWD F-Sport
Swacer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 05:46 AM   #9
wildeklave
Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
wildeklave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 170
Default

I was evaluating the X! in the past. It gets great drive-ability reviews.

What held me back on it was:
- 1 cup holder (many customers complained that the interior was so tight that there was just 1)
- The X1 is basically a tall station wagon made to look like an SUV. The ground clearance is probably an inch higher than a 3 series. The height is only about 61 inches vs. a 3 series of 56.5, a Corolla of 57.5, a Focus of 57.7, and the NX of 64.8 inches. The Kia Soul, Honda HRV, and Nissan Juke are all taller as well yet none are as tall as a typical SUV..
wildeklave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 06:20 AM   #10
LexBob2
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,709
Default

As mentioned before, the X1 is really in a different size class and segment. It no doubt well be cross shopped, but the NX X3, Q5, RDX, MKC etc. are all in that Luxury Compact CUV segment size and price wise.
__________________
2013 Audi Q5 Premium Plus.
2014 BMW 328i X Drive Premium, Luxury Line.
LexBob2 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 08:42 AM   #11
F6FHellcat
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
F6FHellcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: CO
Posts: 19
Default

There is a pretty good thread on this site comparing the 2015 X1 with the 2015 NX. I have owned both vehicles and am much more satisfied with the NX. Not knowing the details for the 2016 X1, here are some aspects to consider:

-- 2015 X1 lower to the ground than the 2015 NX; I prefer the taller NX
-- BMW pricing on the 2015 X1 is complicated with a panoply of different options; base; X-Line, M, four-cylinder, six-cylinder, FWD, AWD, etc. You really need to do a lot of careful comparisons to figure out which might be the better value
-- 2015 X1 is a sort of a wagon and sort of an SUV
-- BMW offers four years of no charge regular maintenance to the original owner
-- I would be interested to see which will hold value better -- the X1 or the NX
F6FHellcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 08:59 AM   #12
aIRpeACE
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
aIRpeACE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: PA
Posts: 38
Default

i believe the NX is a little roomier and more refined vehicle than the x1
aIRpeACE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 09:14 AM   #13
GlenK
Rookie
Trader Score: (0)
 
GlenK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 87
Default

I looked at BMWs and quite honestly just didn't like the looks of their SUVs. Not really sure why, just didn't like um...
GlenK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 10:09 AM   #14
brendaman
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: MD
Posts: 21
Default

I drive a 3-series BMW now and have been for past 15 years. I love it. It's fun to drive. I zip through city and highway. Test-drove the X3 and loved it as well and thought that would be my next car (the old X1 was too much of a station wagon for me). After the warranty expired on my BMW, I started taking it to a BMW-dedicated mechanic, who advised that I either lease it or if buying it, get rid of it when the warranty ran out. He says there is just too much plastic on the new Bimmers which wear out easily. And as others have said, the labor costs are higher relative to the Lexus.

If you want it for the looks and fun driving, go ahead. Don't be fooled into thinking that it will be more reliable or have a low cost of ownership, compared to a Lexus. If I were going to get another German driving machine, I'd look at the Audi. Consumer Reports rates it higher than BMW or Mercedes. Of course, Lexus is at the top of their list.
brendaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 10:46 AM   #15
My0gr81
Lexus Test Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ontario
Posts: 866
Default

Pricing NX compares to X1

Size / Features NX compares to X3

The X1 is really a older generation 3 series station wagon chassis with higher ground clearance and xDrive. They report those sales as Cars, not trucks or SUV.

Think of it like this: Buying an NX as like buying an X3 at the same price as an X1, with better interior and better reliability.
My0gr81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-15, 10:46 AM
 
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[WWI] NX Advertised Cargo Capacity corradoMR2 Lexus Customer Service 4 05-05-15 06:18 PM
Comparing NX 200t with BMW X1 F6FHellcat NX Models 10 05-04-15 09:38 AM
NX models.. Hot sale for Lexus? vietboy1st NX Models 3 12-14-14 08:33 AM
Lexus NX vs BMW X4 wildeklave NX Models 3 12-05-14 02:48 PM
NX "BMW X4" style rendering. Yay or Nay? corradoMR2 NX Models 16 06-25-14 08:52 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:13 PM.

Join ClubLexus

Copyright © 2000-2015 Internet Brands, Inc. All Rights Reserved
Privacy Policy | Disclaimer | Terms of Use | JOBS


Get all contact info