Torque steer
#1
Driver School Candidate
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Torque steer
Having owned several AWD vehicles it felt unusual having so much torque steer when accelerating in a straight line. Anyone else notice this? I know its FWD based which is likely the reason, but I expected a more linear effort.
#2
It is not only FWD based it is FWD 100% of the time unless it detects slippage and then the AWD kicks in and can split up to 50/50 if I recall correctly.
So, essentially you are driving a FWD car most of the time, you will not see the AWD features most of the time.
Phil
So, essentially you are driving a FWD car most of the time, you will not see the AWD features most of the time.
Phil
#3
I have a FWD and do notice torque steer when accelerating. Haven't drivin a car with over 200hp before this, so feels like it is very powerful. I just grip the wheel and gas it!
#4
The pursuit of F
I have AWD and yes, torque steer is noticeable as the pull is very strong. Engaging the four-wheel lock at a standing start reduces the torque steer but this mode disengages at 25 mph+.
#5
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I guess the torque lock would solve that problem but when you engage that does it always stay on, or do you have to press the button everytime you start the vehicle?
#6
Lexus Test Driver
As many others have said, torque steer is because the car is FWD Bias. It is upward to 80/20 bias to the front I believe. Thus, you're going to drive like a normal FWD car and all the poor torque management that comes with it lol
And t o Bdwg, FWD vs. AWD has nothing to do with your ford edge spinning in the rain. That is simply poor front suspension geometry, weight distribution, and gearing. I know you won't do this, but this is just to say, if you'd take 2 50lb weight bars, weld them to the front of your car near the front of the frame, and take the stock transmission out and change the gear ratio about .2, betcha $10 it stops spinning.
The same is true when my wife had her 2006 tC. The front gear was extremely too short and the car would spin. Short gearing + FWD + Light weight (relative) = poor handling from a stop.
Any true ability to put power down comes from a car that is RWD or utilizes RWD bias when AWD.
And t o Bdwg, FWD vs. AWD has nothing to do with your ford edge spinning in the rain. That is simply poor front suspension geometry, weight distribution, and gearing. I know you won't do this, but this is just to say, if you'd take 2 50lb weight bars, weld them to the front of your car near the front of the frame, and take the stock transmission out and change the gear ratio about .2, betcha $10 it stops spinning.
The same is true when my wife had her 2006 tC. The front gear was extremely too short and the car would spin. Short gearing + FWD + Light weight (relative) = poor handling from a stop.
Any true ability to put power down comes from a car that is RWD or utilizes RWD bias when AWD.
Last edited by Swacer; 04-24-15 at 05:06 AM.
#7
The pursuit of F
Do the front wheels spin in the rain when you punch it from a stop? Or does the AWD kick in right away to prevent that? I had a FWD Edge Sport and it spun everytime so I'm hoping the NX handles that better.
I guess the torque lock would solve that problem but when you engage that does it always stay on, or do you have to press the button everytime you start the vehicle?
I guess the torque lock would solve that problem but when you engage that does it always stay on, or do you have to press the button everytime you start the vehicle?
Last edited by corradoMR2; 04-24-15 at 10:20 AM.
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#8
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Thanks for the info I'm going to drive it again to get a better feel. I'm used to Mercedes 4matic system so that's probably why it's more noticeable. I have a heavy foot.
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Premium isn't bad, a buddy and I did a quick number crunch and found that with premium, you only spend ~$200 more a year on gas when driving like 12k miles a year. Heck, that's less than an anniversary dinner lol
I have my Camaro tuned to 93 or higher (used to only need 91 or higher), my previous gen coupe ran premium, my wife's IS runs premium. You just kinda get used to it.
I wonder though, if someone can please hack the ECU so I can get the NX's boost limit increased another 4-5psi. Might be able to squeeze 270hp out of it, which would make it a little bit better of a "get up and go". Also, wouldn't hurt to have someone look into the torque curve vs. the turbo spin up time.
However....Toyota locks the ECUs...because tuning isn't allowed for some reason
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