Swacer

Hmm...sounds harmonic.

I would assume either the balancer on the CVT or a motor mount issue. The ECU is not going to fix any of that unless there is RPM bounce during the shuttering.

dbiegel

Swacer,

Did you have to pay an additional fee for doing the custom order or was it same price?

Also I was hoping to negotiate a price more toward invoice. Sounds like that would be even harder or impossible with a custom order?

rVague

The NX reliability has not been established yet as it is too new.

dbiegel

Thanks so much corrado. The rear legroom looks fantastic! The cargo pics make me a little apprehensive. We are looking to upgrade from our current 2013 Accord and I'm wondering if we'll actually lose real-world cargo space with this transition! I guess the NX and CR-V will be similar in that regard though, and being able to fold down part of the second row will help when we need more space, something we can't do with our Accord.

It amazes me that there are so many detailed specs online of cargo space and space behind 2nd row... but all pretty much useless because they don't separate vertical space from usable length/width. Your pics were very helpful.

dbiegel

Interesting. We have a 2013 Accord with the same exact drivetrain and no vibration issues, although the CVT feels weird / stuttery sometimes when accelerating from a stop.

Also, our budget is a bit more limited. We wanted to stay around 30k, but are thinking to "stretch" the extra 5-6k for the NX if it's worth it. So the ability to custom order, get a good deal, and avoid paying for anything we don't need are all critical.

Swacer

Nothing extra. Keep in mind almost all car companies allow custom orders. My camaro was custom ordered.

My price I'm going to get is going to be right around invoice. But we will do final negotiation when it arrives.

rocdude

@dbiegl

It will be interesting to see how the NX Hybrid works, because this car has CVT and not the automatic transmission. CVT gets better gas mileage, but the bugs have not been completely worked out as of yet. I am hoping to keep the NX for atleast 5 to 8 years. Hopefully the CVT will be more main stream and refined than what it is now. already CVT is being installed in most Japanese and Korean cars, now including Lexus.

LexusChris

iTrader: (1)

Owning a 2014 CR-V, i'd say it's a great car with a lot of space interior and cargo wise but I don't think they are the same league, but I think a better comparison would be the RDX or even an RX 350, i'm sure the with the new model coming soon dealers will start pushing that SUV . It's too bad they put the CVT in the 2015 CR-V, i've read owners complaining about vibration issues and not meeting the new MPG figures for the new motor plus it only got 4 stars in the latest NHTSA .

pamiboy

Exactly NX vs CRV is not a real comparison at all. Price wise or quality wise. Both are in slightly different levels. Really depends on what your needs are and what is the best car for YOU.
Do you have small kids? Do you have another vehicle in family? Do you live in city / suburbs? Do you frequently have to carry large objects? Do you like firm ride or cushy ride😄? These are some of the questions that only you can answer and will affect the choice of cars.

dbiegel

I appreciate all the responses. With some more research I ran into a bit of a wildcard: Acura is offering a pretty amazing lease deal on the RDX, basically $309 a month with $2,299 down, first month free. That equates to a 3-year total ownership cost of about $13k. For comparison, that's about 4k less (25% less) than an base NX lease, and I think significantly cheaper than leasing a CR-V Touring (can't seem to find lease pricing for that online). If you assume 55% residual value after 3 years, it works out to thousands cheaper over that time period than either a NX or CR-V Touring and don't have to deal with selling it at the end. Would never buy an RDX because it's due for a redesign but these numbers put it more around the price point of a mid-trim CRV which is very interesting.

Would love to get some more thoughts on these 3 vehicles pros/cons and what you would pick.

Joeb427

iTrader: (1)

The best bang for the buck is the CR-V Touring for under $33K with haggling.Maybe even under $32K.
Some nice options for the bucks.
Great reliability too.

"The Touring tacks on 18-inch wheels, projector beam headlights, a power liftgate, adaptive cruise control, a forward collision mitigation system, a lane departure warning system, driver seat memory settings, a navigation system and HD radio."

dbiegel

Update: after viewing and test driving a bunch of vehicles including the Lexus NX and Honda CR-V Touring, we actually ended up getting a 2015 Subaru Outback 2.5i Premium fully loaded w/EyeSight.

We really liked the CR-V touring but the new Outback with EyeSight tech impressed me most. After test driving it, I felt it truly shined over the CR-V Touring in all the key areas such as ride quality, usable space (the cargo area is almost a foot longer than the CR-V -- and much more useful than a few extra inches in height! Cargo space specs are so misleading!), quietness, comfort, execution of controls and other details, much better AWD, better real-world MPG, and the next generation EyeSight system (only on the 2015 Legacy and Outback, not Forester) is absolutely amazing technology -- rated the best collision prevention of any automaker's system out there. Plus all the other great tech like MirrorLink, Blind Spot Detect, Rear Cross-Traffic Alert, Approach Detect, Adaptive Cruise that goes to 0 mph unlike the CRV's that only works at high speed... it even tells you if you're stopped at a light and the vehicle in front of you takes off and you're not paying attention... much better visibility throughout with transparent side mirror triangle area even... top crash test results in every way possible... etc etc. All in all it just totally impressed for the price point and I preferred it strongly to the CR-V Touring in most ways.

The Lexus NX was not for us. Everything about it seemed like someone in Lexus marketing said "do whatever you can to try to make it look sporty" without understanding the consequences. It felt tiny inside even though it wasn't. Visibility poor due to the styling. Basically just came across as less usable vehicle than the Outback or CR-V, for a lot more money, and less practical due to the compromises that were made. I actually loved the styling but not enough to make up for everything else I didn't like about it. Probably a great car for others but just not for us and our young family.

Anyways thanks again for all the responses, they definitely helped us in our journey.

SW17LS

Just wanted to chime in about vertical height in an SUV cargo area. If one has never owned an SUVyou may not understand why that's important. Vertical height is what makes an SUV carry more than a car with a trunk with the same cargo area footprint. When packing for a trip with the rear row in use, The ability to lay things on top of each other up to the roof is huge. If you're only going to pack the vehicle up to the window line, you're not getting any benefit for having an SUV, may as well buy an IS.

As for the outback, they are very nice vehicles. I would not buy an Outback or a new CR-V because I hate CVT transmissions. That and there's something about a station wagon that just doesn't appeal to me with the Outback.

Swacer

Could always get a roof carrier. Problem solved.

SW17LS

You could...but then you have a big roof carrier on top of your vehicle which is a PITA. You need a rack, it's ugly, you have to store it somewhere when you're not using it, when you get to your destination you have to worry about height the whole time you're there, etc. I want to put all my luggage inside my car...which is why I bought an SUV for trips over a car. You can put a roof carrier on a car too.