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Old 09-07-14, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tresmith00
pano roof sighting...first time seeing it. Anyone know or think this feature is coming stateside?
Not in the USA for sure ... Also no 360 camera view ... No Mark Levinson

Mostly these are left out to keep the price away from the RX and because the RX does not offer the first two either. We will likely see them after the RX is redesigned and differentiated further price-wise from the NX ... The RX likely will grow in size a touch and allow for a 3rd row seat and grow a bit in price too ... Allowing the NX to add the left off features and grow in price
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Old 09-08-14, 02:34 PM
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Hey that guy had a CT.. just like me. I am thinking of switching from CT to NX too. Seems like a good upgrade.

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Old 09-15-14, 04:56 PM
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Besides some obvious typos and incorrect info like "price starting below 30K", it's a decent read and worth checking the pics.



http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/09...h-first-drive/

Lexus NX 200t/300h First Drive: The Compact SUV That Acts HUGE

Lexus hopes to entice a younger buyer with its new line-up of cars. It has started more or less with the redesigned IS, which has always appealed to younger buyers/drivers, but we now get a chance to see this design emphasis across other vehicles, particularly the NX and RC. The NX is Lexus’ entry into the small SUV market. And boy is it a great car for this segment. While Lexus already has the RX, GX, and LX line of SUVs, it was missing a comparable competitor to the cars like the Audi Q3, BMW X3. The NX offers two variants, the NX 300h hybrid and NX 200t (also available is the NX 200t F SPORT trim).

I had the pleasure to drive around the Lexus NX 200t F Sport and the Lexus NX 300h for a few hours around Nashville, TN to see what this new vehicle was all about. Does the new NX exemplify the Lexus badge? Let’s find out.



Design
The NX is a looker, it has the sleek lines you’d expect from a luxury car targeted towards younger buyers. All around you can see the balance of ruggedness of an SUV and the elegance of a luxury vehicle. Throughout you can see the finer touches that implants Lexus’s design thumbprint. Like the L-shaped LED fog-lights underneath the headlights or the brake light that extends across the back of the car, even across the gap between the side (turn signals/brakelights) and rear hatch. It’s hard not to think of this car as a smaller version of the Lexus RX, but Lexus really equates the car to more of a larger sibling to the IS. The IS too received an overhaul recently with much fanfare and really kicked-off a new set of design features across the Lexus brand. Lexus is really trying to make its designs more appealing to a younger buyer and it really shows and the designs are no longer your parent’s Lexus anymore, it is exciting.


The auto industry likes to throw around the terms bold, exciting and whatever other adjectives that hopefully help sell cars. Though in the case of recognizable brand like Lexus it is hard to deviate significantly and risk alienating your core fans. Lexus took a lot of consideration into the design and making sure even with new designs it still speaks as a “Lexus” car. I could continue to try and describe the features myself, but I would not be able to do it justice, take a look for yourself in the gallery below.



The NX comes with either standard or premium headlamps; the standard set shows of the classic circular high beams whereas the premium headlamps have the more defined rectangular headlamps along with more LED lamps in the turn signals and daytime running lamps. I think it goes without saying the premium lights standout more than the standard set.


While Lexus calls the NX a compact SUV it ended up being quite spacious and roomy, while still feeling quite easy to navigate around the city.

To give you an idea of where NX fits in, it measures in at 182.3 inches (4,630 mm) long, 83.9 inches (2130 mm) wide, 64.8 inches (1,645 mm) tall and a wheelbase of 104.7 inches (2,660mm). For comparison sake the BMW X3 is 183.4 inches long, 74.1 inches wide, 66.1 inches tall, and a wheelbase of 110.6 inches; the Audi Q3 measures 172.6 inches long, 79.4 inches wide, 62.5 inches tall, and wheelbase of 102.4 inches.


Interior


The inside of the NX is certainly what you’d expect from Lexus. It offers premium materials, a clean design and very little clutter on the dash/console. The latter part we will cover in detail when we get to the technology of the car. One huge noticeable attribute about the NX is just how much leg room is available. While the NX acts like a bigger version of the IS, I felt the NX has plenty of leg room. In fact during one portion of the ride I had 6’6” gentleman sitting in the front passenger seat in front of me and I had plenty of leg room. Something that isn’t always found in most compact SUVs.


The NX has a lot of cool new high tech offerings, including its UX center display, navigation system and even an optional wireless charging pad (Qi compatible) for your mobile devices.


The center console is not cluttered but there are plenty of buttons to help you get to the desired action with minimal clicking. Fewer button presses to get you to turn on your favorite tunes or adjusting the AC is a plus in my book.



And thanks to the conveniently placed track-pad located on the driver’s right hand side you don’t have to stretch your arms to reach the display console or turn a **** to cycle through menu options. After using the trackpad system for a few hours, it now ranks as one of my favorite input method, partly because of the placement, it sits nicely under my hand, it just feels like the most natural placement. The alternative is tapping the navigation/console dash and that usually means stretching forward which becomes another distraction while I should be focused on driving.

While we weren’t able to play with the UX system fully, this was a pre-production vehicle, I found it to be sleek and thought it was really well thought out for the driver. And while the Lexus Enform system was not ready for us to play with during the test drive I can say that it will work much like GM’s OnStar system. It will have its own dedicated data connection. Which means you can remotely start your car, check car stats on your smartphone, etc.

Speaking of the Lexus Enform App it integrates with the following apps to the car:

Bing
Facebook Places
iHeartRadio
Slacker Radio
MovieTickets.com
OpenTable
Pandora
Yelp
Stocks
Sports
Fuel Prices
Saved Destinations

Drive

Lexus likes to boast about its latest construction methods found in newer Lexus vehicles (2013, GS, ES, LS and 2014 IS) making for a sturdier body, better handling and making the car more responsive. You often find out that “responsive,” “sporty” in turn means a bumpier ride, though that is far from how the NX rides. The NX by design looks and feels sporty but puts out a luxurious ride. Sound and shock dampening additionally helps with that but overall, drivers should be content with its peppy yet smooth, comfortable drive.


NX 300h (Hybrid)
The NX 300h deserves a bit more attention than a simple mention here. While surely it is a hybrid variation of the NX, it certainly can boast, proudly, that it doesn’t feel too much like a hybrid vehicle. That’s not a knock on hybrids, but hybrids generally are built and bought for the purpose of fuel economy sake.

I suppose one of the more predominant complaints about hybrid vehicles is the lack of power or the pick-up one may experience in traditional gas-powered vehicles. Traversing around Nashville, I found it to have nearly equal performance to that of the NX 200t. With hybrid engines, I usually expect some delay in acceleration though I found the 300h to have enough pick-up to speed up on to high speed ramps.

The NX 300h gives you the feel of an SUV without all the guilt of a heavy gas guzzling one. The hybrid engine is one of the better hybrid experiences I’ve driven in. You have 3 drive options on the NX 300h, eco, normal and sport. Normal kicks on your normal drive mode, obviously, and feels like you are driving most gas-powered vehicles. Driving in eco forces the car to drive on the electric motor if it is so charged (from the regen system) to do so.

Electronically Controlled Brake-Regeneration system (ECB-R) works in conjunction with the hydraulic and braking system to maximize recover as much as energy as possible, because it is after a hybrid vehicle.


NX 200t
The NX 200t features a turbocharged 2.0 liter 4-cylinder engine, an engine that was made specifically for the NX and not borrowed from another platform, features Lexus’s first gasoline direct-injected turbocharged engine. It is designed to deliver torque more effectively at lower speeds. The NX 200t puts out 235 horsepower @ 4,800-5,600 rpm (175 kW, 238 ps); 258 lb.-ft. of torque @ 1,650-4,000 rpm (350 Nm, 357 kg-m). While the 300h is a fine car, the NX 200t has the extra pep and torque that just make it so much more fun to drive.

The NX 300h on the other hand puts out 154 hp @ 5700 rpm (115 kW, 156 ps); torque: 152 lb.-ft. @ 4,400-4,900 rpm (206 Nm, 210 kg-m); total system horsepower = 194 hp (145 kW, 197 ps).

I think at the end of the day between these two cars you’re going to see a tad more performance in the 200t, but it doesn’t mean the 300h can’t hang on for a nice ride. The Lexus engineers did a pretty stellar job of maximizing the hybrid engine to delivery performance and efficiency in one nice neat package.


Dynamic Radar Cruise Control has quickly become my favorite feature on any of these new cars. And the Lexus version is as responsive as any other system I’ve had the pleasure of testing. The DRCC maintains the proper distance between cars, by accelerating and decelerating in relation to the vehicle in front, even bringing the car to a complete stop. Though it does not automatically start up from a complete stop, you can re-enable it by tapping “Resume” or the pressing accelerator pedal to resume movement.

The Electronic Control Unit will analyze distance while the car is in motion and alert the driver in the event of a possible collision, if that doesn’t happen the ECU will activate the pre-collision brakes. The NX also offers a bunch of other safety features we’ve come to expect in this price category, lane departure warning, blind spot monitoring, and even rear cross-traffic alerts (for those moments when a car speeds by as you’re backing out of that tricky parking lot).


Final Thoughts
I was really pleasantly surprised to see Lexus take bolder steps in its design. There’s something to be said for its classic design cues, though these new design elements help the brand appeal to more youthful buyers.

The NX is a small SUV that acts big. That’s a compliment. I can’t tell you how many cars I’ve gotten into that look big on the outside only to disappoint when you go stretch out your legs. The Lexus NX is a truly efficient vehicle, not just as it pertains to fuel consumption, but in how usable the space is. Lexus claims you can store 4 golf bags in the rear, I probably won’t be hauling too many clubs in the back, but I can probably make a quick to the hardware store and grab whatever weekend project I’m working on and still have room to grab some groceries. The NX is a versatile car without the guilt of a giant gas-guzzling SUV all with a sticker price starting at just under $30,000.
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Originally Posted by Husker4the
Not in the USA for sure ... Also no 360 camera view ... No Mark Levinson

Mostly these are left out to keep the price away from the RX and because the RX does not offer the first two either. We will likely see them after the RX is redesigned and differentiated further price-wise from the NX ... The RX likely will grow in size a touch and allow for a 3rd row seat and grow a bit in price too ... Allowing the NX to add the left off features and grow in price
I have a Pano roof in my X5d. Although it's an interesting premise to "open the sky", you will find that you rarely, if ever, actually do that so IMHO it was a complete waste of an engineering exercise. I would have bought one without it if I could have saved the coin.

The other thing that you all may not realize is that those HUGE glass panels weigh FAR more than most other materials and adding weight to a vehicle that you are trying to get fuel economy out of is coupter-productive. We are super pleased to see that Lexus is smart enough to not fall for that particular marketing gimmick as the price will already be high enough.

I am seeking a replacement SUV with EXCELLENT fuel economy to replace my wife's '06 Highander Hybrid and this NX300h looks like a VERY good fit.
Old 09-16-14, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bunka
I have a Pano roof in my X5d. Although it's an interesting premise to "open the sky", you will find that you rarely, if ever, actually do that so IMHO it was a complete waste of an engineering exercise. I would have bought one without it if I could have saved the coin.

The other thing that you all may not realize is that those HUGE glass panels weigh FAR more than most other materials and adding weight to a vehicle that you are trying to get fuel economy out of is coupter-productive. We are super pleased to see that Lexus is smart enough to not fall for that particular marketing gimmick as the price will already be high enough.

I am seeking a replacement SUV with EXCELLENT fuel economy to replace my wife's '06 Highander Hybrid and this NX300h looks like a VERY good fit.
Glass is indeed heavy heavy.

According to the NX brochure from Lexus Japan, the pano roof would add 20KG to a NX without any roof and for sunroof and the roof rail, it would be extra 10KG on a NX without roof. So when sunroof is almost a standard equipment for North American market, the weight penalty for adding a pano roof would have been 10KG.

Another concern that I have is if there is hail storm, would it be more difficult and expensive to fix a pano roof than one without?
Old 09-16-14, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyL
Another concern that I have is if there is hail storm, would it be more difficult and expensive to fix a pano roof than one without?
I would think so. I would also check with my insurance company to see if they even cover these. Cost of replacement would be high and probably hard to find in stock anywhere. If you had to wait for weeks for the panel what would you do in the meantime?
I don't understand the interest in these, just another fad.
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Originally Posted by AndyL
Glass is indeed heavy heavy.

According to the NX brochure from Lexus Japan, the pano roof would add 20KG to a NX without any roof and for sunroof and the roof rail, it would be extra 10KG on a NX without roof. So when sunroof is almost a standard equipment for North American market, the weight penalty for adding a pano roof would have been 10KG.

Another concern that I have is if there is hail storm, would it be more difficult and expensive to fix a pano roof than one without?
Due to the natural characteristics of today's modern glass, the Pano roof actually does BETTER in a hail storm than a "normal" roof. Glass is actually "harder" & more rigid than the soft steel used on most roofs so where you would normally have a bunch of "pock" marks, you have nothing other than in the places on the edges and that is the most difficult place to remove a dent from on ANY vehicle so the pano actually "saves" a lot of the regular work. My brother owns his own dent business which is where I heard this from some 2 years ago when I bought my X5d w/Pano..
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Originally Posted by bunka
Due to the natural characteristics of today's modern glass, the Pano roof actually does BETTER in a hail storm than a "normal" roof. Glass is actually "harder" & more rigid than the soft steel used on most roofs so where you would normally have a bunch of "pock" marks, you have nothing other than in the places on the edges and that is the most difficult place to remove a dent from on ANY vehicle so the pano actually "saves" a lot of the regular work. My brother owns his own dent business which is where I heard this from some 2 years ago when I bought my X5d w/Pano..
its not like i would worry about that, i just dont care about Pano myself as it does not do much for the driver - it is much better for back passangers.

Usually it is not glass but some special polycarbonate thats tougher, lighter and probably cheaper... first products had issues with longevity but i dont think thats a problem for current ones.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
its not like i would worry about that, i just dont care about Pano myself as it does not do much for the driver - it is much better for back passangers.

Usually it is not glass but some special polycarbonate thats tougher, lighter and probably cheaper... first products had issues with longevity but i dont think thats a problem for current ones.
The one in my BMW is DEFINITELY THICK, SOLID GLASS.
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We drive the latest luxo-ute to enter the ring, the Lexus NX.
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For those who understand Spanish, this guy is detailed and is particularly passionate about the design.

Also this has some good footage for those Obsidian/R.Red lovers!

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This one is a bit harsh on the weight and competitiveness, but agrees it'll be a sales success:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...0h_first_test/
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Originally Posted by JDR76
This one is a bit harsh on the weight and competitiveness, but agrees it'll be a sales success:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...0h_first_test/
it is kind of funny because their weights for Q5 and Q5 TDI are up to 300lbs heavier than NX.

But I guess it is a meme now how Lexus is heavy and germans are light... this is true, but only for one model... lol.

Reminds me how Germans claimed new Golf is 500lbs is lighter than before, then they ridiculed competition like Auris for not being light enough then when Autobild had tests of same car, they ended up being same weight.


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