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View Poll Results: What do you think the starting MSRP of the NX will be in the US and Canada?
US: less than 33K 6 9.68%
US: 33-35K 16 25.81%
US: 35-37K 24 38.71%
US: more than 37K 11 17.74%
CAN: less than 38K 1 1.61%
CAN: 38-40K 5 8.06%
CAN: 40-42K 4 6.45%
CAN: more than 42K 1 1.61%
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What do you think the starting price of the NX will be?

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Old 05-30-14, 09:28 AM   #16
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it shows NX is available on Jul 31 in Japan. Jun 6 - pre-order acceptance for Japanese market

Also note the weight difference between NX200t and N300h in the table on the lower left corner
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I would really like to see the base price under $35k. $34,500 or something is my hope.
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it shows NX is available on Jul 31 in Japan. Jun 6 - pre-order acceptance for Japanese market

Also note the weight difference between NX200t and N300h in the table on the lower left corner
AndyL, great find! We actually now have a publishing on curb weight. I'll post this key info in the "Official Thread" to make it more visible.

200t FWD: 1710 kg / 3762 lbs
200t AWD: 1770 kg / 3894 lbs

300h FWD: 1760 kg / 3872 lbs
300h AWD: 1820 kg / 4004 lbs
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AndyL, great find! We actually now have a publishing on curb weight. I'll post this key info in the "Official Thread" to make it more visible.

200t FWD: 1710 kg / 3762 lbs
200t AWD: 1770 kg / 3894 lbs

300h FWD: 1760 kg / 3872 lbs
300h AWD: 1820 kg / 4004 lbs
Actually the fuel consumption is also available but it is based on the Japanese method - JC08 mode which I I think there is no way to convert it to EPA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_ec...tomobiles#JC08

Under JC08 mode,

NX200t
12.8km/l (FF)
12.4km/l (4WD)

NX300h
21.0km/l (FF)
19.8km/l (4WD)

As a comparison and also under JC08 mode,

2014 IS250
11.6km/l (RWD)
10.6km/l (4WD)

2014 IS350
10.0km/l (RWD) (without moonroof and Mark Levinson)
9.8km/l (RWD) (with both moonroof and Mark Levinson)

2014 IS300h
23.2km/l (RWD)

Note the figures for NX -- I assume they are without any kind of moonroof.
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23.2 km/l for IS300h is the very basic version. 20.4 km/l is the stated consumption for a normally equipped car, and a more accurate number to compare with.

The base IS300h is more basic than the base NX300h.
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Actually the fuel consumption is also available but it is based on the Japanese method - JC08 mode which I I think there is no way to convert it to EPA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_ec...tomobiles#JC08

Under JC08 mode,

NX200t
12.8km/l (FF)
12.4km/l (4WD)

NX300h
21.0km/l (FF)
19.8km/l (4WD)

As a comparison and also under JC08 mode,

2014 IS250
11.6km/l (RWD)
10.6km/l (4WD)

2014 IS350
10.0km/l (RWD) (without moonroof and Mark Levinson)
9.8km/l (RWD) (with both moonroof and Mark Levinson)

2014 IS300h
23.2km/l (RWD)

Note the figures for NX -- I assume they are without any kind of moonroof.


Nice to see the NX is less thirsty than the IS. This is good information. We can calculate a fairly accurate fuel consumption for the N.American market. Here goes.

Comparing the NX200t FWD to the IS250 RWD, the NX is a factor x better than the IS:
12.8 / 11.6 = x
x = 1.103

Calculate fuel consumption y for the NX 200t FWD using the factor above and known IS250 RWD fuel econ figures:

US:
y (NX) = 24 mpg (IS) x 1.103
y = 26.5 mpg

Canada:
y (NX) = 8.3L/100km / 1.103
y = 7.5L/100km

Folks this is very realistic and figures we can look forward to!

For the sake of completion, here's the 300h:

Comparing the NX300h FWD to the IS250 RWD, the NX is a factor x better than the IS:
21.0 / 11.6 = x
x = 1.81

Calculate fuel consumption y for the NX 300h FWD using the factor above and known IS250 RWD fuel econ figures:

US:
y (NX) = 24 mpg (IS) x 1.81
y = 43.4 mpg

Canada:
y (NX) = 8.3L/100km / 1.81
y = 4.6L/100km

Hmm... This seems too optimistic since the ES is 40 mpg and CT is 42 mpg...
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Nice to see the NX is less thirsty than the IS. This is good information. We can calculate a fairly accurate fuel consumption for the N.American market. Here goes.

Comparing the NX200t FWD to the IS250 RWD, the NX is a factor x better than the IS:
12.8 / 11.6 = x
x = 1.103

Calculate fuel consumption y for the NX 200t FWD using the factor above and known IS250 RWD fuel econ figures:

US:
y (NX) = 24 mpg (IS) x 1.103
y = 26.5 mpg

Canada:
y (NX) = 8.3L/100km / 1.103
y = 7.5L/100km

Folks this is very realistic and figures we can look forward to!

For the sake of completion, here's the 300h:

Comparing the NX300h FWD to the IS250 RWD, the NX is a factor x better than the IS:
21.0 / 11.6 = x
x = 1.81

Calculate fuel consumption y for the NX 300h FWD using the factor above and known IS250 RWD fuel econ figures:

US:
y (NX) = 24 mpg (IS) x 1.81
y = 43.4 mpg

Canada:
y (NX) = 8.3L/100km / 1.81
y = 4.6L/100km

Hmm... This seems too optimistic since the ES is 40 mpg and CT is 42 mpg...
Great effort and thanks CorradoMR2. :thumb up:

However, note the actual EPA should be different as JC08 uses a different methodology to calculate the fuel consumption figure.

What you have produced is a figure which will be useful to compare to the actual EPA when they become available.

Then when NXs are actually on the road, owners can report their figures and see which one ---- EPA or JC08 (or other methods used elsewhere) is a better reflection of the actual consumption based on their own experience.

Of course, some variation should occur because various options/features take weight.
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23.2 km/l for IS300h is the very basic version. 20.4 km/l is the stated consumption for a normally equipped car, and a more accurate number to compare with.

The base IS300h is more basic than the base NX300h.
Agreed. Another factor thatdeviates the result is due to different method being used to calculate the fuel consumption figure.

Just curious, which method is used in Sweden?
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Agreed. Another factor thatdeviates the result is due to different method being used to calculate the fuel consumption figure.

Just curious, which method is used in Sweden?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_European_Driving_Cycle is used.

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I believe the US EPA is closer to reality.
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If you compare curb weight to current H models the nex NX300h will be closer to 30 to 34 miles per gallon. Maybe even less. Can someone followup and do some more calculations. Thanks.
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NEDC is used.

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I believe the US EPA is closer to reality.
Thanks jhs82. I wonder what is this chart called?
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Thanks jhs82. I wonder what is this chart called?
I have no idea.
It just shows time and speed for the test. I don't think it got a specific name.
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I have no idea.
It just shows time and speed for the test. I don't think it got a specific name.
I see. Thanks for the chart. It provides some good insight to this subject.
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Actually the fuel consumption is also available but it is based on the Japanese method - JC08 mode which I I think there is no way to convert it to EPA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_ec...tomobiles#JC08

Under JC08 mode,

NX200t
12.8km/l (FF)
12.4km/l (4WD)

NX300h
21.0km/l (FF)
19.8km/l (4WD)

As a comparison and also under JC08 mode,

2014 IS250
11.6km/l (RWD)
10.6km/l (4WD)

2014 IS350
10.0km/l (RWD) (without moonroof and Mark Levinson)
9.8km/l (RWD) (with both moonroof and Mark Levinson)

2014 IS300h
23.2km/l (RWD)

Note the figures for NX -- I assume they are without any kind of moonroof.
I wonder if they are correct numbers... it doesnt seem like NX200t should have same consumption as IS250 F-Sport... especially considering how small difference between AWD and FWD is, and that NX200t has start/stop in Japan, unlike iS, which is doing wonders for JC08.

From European numbers, we know that NX300h has around 10-15% worse fuel consumption than IS300h, which is as expected.
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i feel they might have made up a lot of those numbers.. might be wrong... numbers do match Harrier for Hybrid version, but not turbo one.

It is almost impossible for 200t and 300h to have such similar weight, it makes no sense at all. 2WD Harrier 2.0l is 1560kg while loaded Harrier Hybrid is 1800kg. 1800kg in Harrier and 20kg more in NX300h makes a lot of sense.

But for 200t to be 200kg heavier than 2.0l in Harrier - it just doesnt make sense - numbers simply dont work.

Here are harrier specs:
http://toyota.jp/harrier/003_p_001/spec/spec/hybrid/

Harrier is "luxury" Rav4 version for Japan, thats more closely based on Rav4.
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