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04-30-14, 08:56 PM
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Holy ****, guys, settle down. Those are 0-62 numbers quoted from a spanish outlet which means they are not comparable to numbers from an american mag/media outlet which means that you can't really infer a damn thing yet. Some use a rollout, some do 0-60, some do 0-62, etc. I expect it will be in the ESh acceleration range because it is the same drivetrain in a similar weight chassis and that is probably the acceleration expectation of the customer. It will be a hair faster than the L4 Rav4... again, matching the expectation of someone buying a ~35mpg luxury CUV based on a Rav4. I have a lot of seat time in the 2.5L non-hybrid (own one), 2.5HSD (multiple test drives), 1.8HSD (own one), 3.5L non-hybrid, and the 1.8L non-hybrid. The 2.5HSD feels a lot like the 2.5L non-hybrid but with a bit more power (not up to the 3.5L, but noticeable difference) and a lot smoother. It is a fantastic power train for effortless driving. And it will smoke a Corolla. in the Camry hybrid, it put up numbers comparable to the 2.0T Hyundai Sonata. I would LOVE if my Prius v has the 2.5HSD. Great mileage, great responsiveness, and very smooth. Hell, I wish my '14 Rav4 has the 2.5HSD because it is just a much more refined power train.
Anyway, it is simple physics. You don't get efficient cars by making them fast. The 2.0T will be the quick one.... just like the ES350 is quicker than the ES300h. If you want efficient, you get the hybrid. If you want fast, get the 2.0T. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Anyway, it is simple physics. You don't get efficient cars by making them fast. The 2.0T will be the quick one.... just like the ES350 is quicker than the ES300h. If you want efficient, you get the hybrid. If you want fast, get the 2.0T. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
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04-30-14, 09:58 PM
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Holy ****, guys, settle down. Those are 0-62 numbers quoted from a spanish outlet which means they are not comparable to numbers from an american mag/media outlet which means that you can't really infer a damn thing yet. Some use a rollout, some do 0-60, some do 0-62, etc. I expect it will be in the ESh acceleration range because it is the same drivetrain in a similar weight chassis and that is probably the acceleration expectation of the customer. It will be a hair faster than the L4 Rav4... again, matching the expectation of someone buying a ~35mpg luxury CUV based on a Rav4. I have a lot of seat time in the 2.5L non-hybrid (own one), 2.5HSD (multiple test drives), 1.8HSD (own one), 3.5L non-hybrid, and the 1.8L non-hybrid. The 2.5HSD feels a lot like the 2.5L non-hybrid but with a bit more power (not up to the 3.5L, but noticeable difference) and a lot smoother. It is a fantastic power train for effortless driving. And it will smoke a Corolla. in the Camry hybrid, it put up numbers comparable to the 2.0T Hyundai Sonata. I would LOVE if my Prius v has the 2.5HSD. Great mileage, great responsiveness, and very smooth. Hell, I wish my '14 Rav4 has the 2.5HSD because it is just a much more refined power train.
Anyway, it is simple physics. You don't get efficient cars by making them fast. The 2.0T will be the quick one.... just like the ES350 is quicker than the ES300h. If you want efficient, you get the hybrid. If you want fast, get the 2.0T. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Anyway, it is simple physics. You don't get efficient cars by making them fast. The 2.0T will be the quick one.... just like the ES350 is quicker than the ES300h. If you want efficient, you get the hybrid. If you want fast, get the 2.0T. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
What I was saying is that for a Luxury car of this class, the presuming 9.9s from 0-62 mph is not acceptable IMO. For a car that would be about 3 times as expensive as a Corolla (which certainly is "no free lunch"), mileage is important, but there are other variables that should be tweaked in the Hybrid version to match its worthiness.
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04-30-14, 10:55 PM
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05-01-14, 02:58 AM
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Thanks for the video. It really is a nice looking car, and you get a much better feel for the size and shape watching it drive the parking lot.
Not to continue with the sky is falling bit, but if he's full out accelerating at the 6:00 mark that doesn't allay my fears for the hybrid acceleration.
Not to continue with the sky is falling bit, but if he's full out accelerating at the 6:00 mark that doesn't allay my fears for the hybrid acceleration.
05-01-14, 04:13 AM
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I'm well aware of the difference between the turbo and the Hybrid. However, your explanation feels like a talk to a NKOTB. That's quite laughable or offensive in some other way.
What I was saying is that for a Luxury car of this class, the presuming 9.9s from 0-62 mph is not acceptable IMO. For a car that would be about 3 times as expensive as a Corolla (which certainly is "no free lunch"), mileage is important, but there are other variables that should be tweaked in the Hybrid version to match its worthiness.
What I was saying is that for a Luxury car of this class, the presuming 9.9s from 0-62 mph is not acceptable IMO. For a car that would be about 3 times as expensive as a Corolla (which certainly is "no free lunch"), mileage is important, but there are other variables that should be tweaked in the Hybrid version to match its worthiness.
Compared to the other 2.5HSD vehicles, Lexus will likely adjust the diff ratio to help acceleration meet the customers' expectation versus the final drive of the ES300h/CamHy/AvHy.
05-01-14, 04:24 AM
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Very nice, thanks for sharing.
I was wondering about the turn signal stalks, if they were like the IS's. We get answers in this video. From a functional standpoint, they're not. Basically the stalks click in, stay put in that position, then spring back after the steering is turned (from 6:36 to about 6:55). It functions like the rest of the Lexus vehicles, except the IS where the stalk doesn't lock in with the steering - it just springs back right after you activate the signal.
I was wondering about the turn signal stalks, if they were like the IS's. We get answers in this video. From a functional standpoint, they're not. Basically the stalks click in, stay put in that position, then spring back after the steering is turned (from 6:36 to about 6:55). It functions like the rest of the Lexus vehicles, except the IS where the stalk doesn't lock in with the steering - it just springs back right after you activate the signal.
05-01-14, 04:51 AM
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Very nice, thanks for sharing.
I was wondering about the turn signal stalks, if they were like the IS's. We get answers in this video. From a functional standpoint, they're not. Basically the stalks click in, stay put in that position, then spring back after the steering is turned (from 6:36 to about 6:55). It functions like the rest of the Lexus vehicles, except the IS where the stalk doesn't lock in with the steering - it just springs back right after you activate the signal.
I was wondering about the turn signal stalks, if they were like the IS's. We get answers in this video. From a functional standpoint, they're not. Basically the stalks click in, stay put in that position, then spring back after the steering is turned (from 6:36 to about 6:55). It functions like the rest of the Lexus vehicles, except the IS where the stalk doesn't lock in with the steering - it just springs back right after you activate the signal.
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05-01-14, 04:54 AM
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Q: What new technologies are incorporated into NX?
Kato: In order to realise our Premium Urban Sports Gear concept we had to adopt many new technologies. Of course, one important focus was the development of a brand new turbo engine. As a corporation we already had the 3S-GTE turbo technology that won past WRC events. I believed that combining this turbo technology with modern environmental technology would create an advantage for Lexus. We worked hard to get the engine sound just right. For the F Sport model we wanted a more emotional engine sound, so we electronically developed a note that sounds great acoustically. I think you’ll be surprised at how smooth the turbo engine accelerates.
Kato: In order to realise our Premium Urban Sports Gear concept we had to adopt many new technologies. Of course, one important focus was the development of a brand new turbo engine. As a corporation we already had the 3S-GTE turbo technology that won past WRC events. I believed that combining this turbo technology with modern environmental technology would create an advantage for Lexus. We worked hard to get the engine sound just right. For the F Sport model we wanted a more emotional engine sound, so we electronically developed a note that sounds great acoustically. I think you’ll be surprised at how smooth the turbo engine accelerates.
05-01-14, 08:27 AM
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134hp to push around 2800lbs versus 200hp to push around 3800lbs. That is a 10% hp to weight ratio advantage to the NX. I'm saying that the NX will not be 9.9 sec to 60. It will be in the 8 to mid 8 range when motor trend gets hold of it for your apples to apples comparison. Basically, stay calm, wait and see.
Compared to the other 2.5HSD vehicles, Lexus will likely adjust the diff ratio to help acceleration meet the customers' expectation versus the final drive of the ES300h/CamHy/AvHy.
Compared to the other 2.5HSD vehicles, Lexus will likely adjust the diff ratio to help acceleration meet the customers' expectation versus the final drive of the ES300h/CamHy/AvHy.
This is why Lexus thinks they will sell a lot more Turbo's in USA.
However, 0-62 is worst part of hybrid performance... it should do really well in passing acceleration, way faster than Rav4 2.5l for instance.