View Poll Results: Do you notice any abnormal wind buffeting noise from the driver's side over 40 mph?
Yes, it's noticeable almost all the time
17
25.00%
Yes, but only when it's really windy
14
20.59%
No, it's fine - nothing unusual
37
54.41%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll
NX Owner Survey - Excessive Wind Noise?
#16
Racer
I'm just kidding around.
Is the NX louder at 80 mph than at 30 mph? Of course! Is it abnormally louder? No, not at all.
#17
The pursuit of F
Thread Starter
Video/Audio of Wind Buffeting Sound.
Here's a half decent video and sound though I wish the road noise was not so overbearing. Listen carefully and you'll hear the wind buffeting around 5-6 seconds and a couple spots later in this short clip where the sound cuts out a bit. In person, it's much more noticeable.
#18
Here's a half decent video and sound though I wish the road noise was not so overbearing. Listen carefully and you'll hear the wind buffeting around 5-6 seconds and a couple spots later in this short clip where the sound cuts out a bit. In person, it's much more noticeable.
#19
The pursuit of F
Thread Starter
I captured the HUD speed 79 kph and you see the speed in the side glass. It's louder at Hwy speeds.
#20
Lexus Test Driver
CorradoMR2, thanks for the video. I played twice but all I hear is the change of wind noise. Maybe the road noise is a bit overbearing. Can you point out which seconds out of those 22 secs that we are supposed to hear the noise?
And I finally understand what you mean by excessive wind noise. It is not a whistle. I experience whistle or wind leaking into the driver's window in my 3IS despite I already had dealership replaced the glass run in the summer which improves the situation but when the temperature gets colder now, the problem kinda of comes back mildly.
There is a product like what is shown in the picture. It is a kit to reduce wind noise. This company (エーモン - http://www.amon.co.jp) is very popular/common in Japan and this is one of the kits that reduces wind noise.
Note the kit adds some fins or structures to reduce the wind noise. They are held by self-adhesive tapes. Our 3IS also has a built-in fin on the black triangular plastic at the A-pillar. Not sure if it helps? I admit they don't look good but they may hide themselves on a black mirror like the one on NX F-Sport.
And I finally understand what you mean by excessive wind noise. It is not a whistle. I experience whistle or wind leaking into the driver's window in my 3IS despite I already had dealership replaced the glass run in the summer which improves the situation but when the temperature gets colder now, the problem kinda of comes back mildly.
There is a product like what is shown in the picture. It is a kit to reduce wind noise. This company (エーモン - http://www.amon.co.jp) is very popular/common in Japan and this is one of the kits that reduces wind noise.
Note the kit adds some fins or structures to reduce the wind noise. They are held by self-adhesive tapes. Our 3IS also has a built-in fin on the black triangular plastic at the A-pillar. Not sure if it helps? I admit they don't look good but they may hide themselves on a black mirror like the one on NX F-Sport.
Last edited by AndyL; 12-04-15 at 08:47 PM.
#21
Racer
I have the NX 200t (non-FS) and have no abnormal wind noise whatsoever.
Just curious if this is an F-Sport phenomenon? Could the lack of the pointed "shark nose" front end of the F-Sport be producing some airflow turbulence coming up from the front-end down the lateral of the vehicle?
Just curious if this is an F-Sport phenomenon? Could the lack of the pointed "shark nose" front end of the F-Sport be producing some airflow turbulence coming up from the front-end down the lateral of the vehicle?
#23
The pursuit of F
Thread Starter
CorradoMR2, thanks for the video. I played twice but all I hear is the change of wind noise. Maybe the road noise is a bit overbearing. Can you point out which seconds out of those 22 secs that we are supposed to hear the noise?
And I finally understand what you mean by excessive wind noise. It is not a whistle. I experience whistle or wind leaking into the driver's window in my 3IS despite I already had dealership replaced the glass run in the summer which improves the situation but when the temperature gets colder now, the problem kinda of comes back mildly.
There is a product like what is shown in the picture. It is a kit to reduce wind noise. This company (エーモン - http://www.amon.co.jp) is very popular/common in Japan and this is one of the kits that reduces wind noise.
Note the kit adds some fins or structures to reduce the wind noise. They are held by self-adhesive tapes. Our 3IS also has a built-in fin on the black triangular plastic at the A-pillar. Not sure if it helps? I admit they don't look good but they may hide themselves on a black mirror like the one on NX F-Sport.
And I finally understand what you mean by excessive wind noise. It is not a whistle. I experience whistle or wind leaking into the driver's window in my 3IS despite I already had dealership replaced the glass run in the summer which improves the situation but when the temperature gets colder now, the problem kinda of comes back mildly.
There is a product like what is shown in the picture. It is a kit to reduce wind noise. This company (エーモン - http://www.amon.co.jp) is very popular/common in Japan and this is one of the kits that reduces wind noise.
Note the kit adds some fins or structures to reduce the wind noise. They are held by self-adhesive tapes. Our 3IS also has a built-in fin on the black triangular plastic at the A-pillar. Not sure if it helps? I admit they don't look good but they may hide themselves on a black mirror like the one on NX F-Sport.
Always resourceful AndyL thanks for posting this fin kit. Might be worth trying if the price is right. I suspect the buffeting is caused by the wind interacting with the mirror and small corner side glass. Then factor in the fact that the glass is regular temperlite, the buffeting noise channels through to the driver's ear. When I test drove the new RX which has the same mirror as the NX and similar small side window, no buffeting noise. I suspect the sound is still there but the triple layer-Lamisafe sound-insulating side glass filters it out.
Made me think of this video on the Volt that resolved this window-down buffeting noise. My car sounds like this but obviously to a much lesser degree with the window closed of course...
I have the NX 200t (non-FS) and have no abnormal wind noise whatsoever.
Just curious if this is an F-Sport phenomenon? Could the lack of the pointed "shark nose" front end of the F-Sport be producing some airflow turbulence coming up from the front-end down the lateral of the vehicle?
Just curious if this is an F-Sport phenomenon? Could the lack of the pointed "shark nose" front end of the F-Sport be producing some airflow turbulence coming up from the front-end down the lateral of the vehicle?
Last edited by corradoMR2; 12-05-15 at 05:33 AM.
#26
The pursuit of F
Thread Starter
I'm experimenting with this deer warning whistle, placed backwards. I'll report back after a few days of use.
Last edited by corradoMR2; 12-07-15 at 06:48 PM.
#27
Lexus Test Driver
Yes. Exaxtly. Just wished the difference I hear in person is better reflected in the video.
Between 5-6 seconds, 10-11 seconds, etc there's a slight cut in sound. Again, the video quality is not great...
Always resourceful AndyL thanks for posting this fin kit. Might be worth trying if the price is right. I suspect the buffeting is caused by the wind interacting with the mirror and small corner side glass. Then factor in the fact that the glass is regular temperlite, the buffeting noise channels through to the driver's ear. When I test drove the new RX which has the same mirror as the NX and similar small side window, no buffeting noise. I suspect the sound is still there but the triple layer-Lamisafe sound-insulating side glass filters it out.
Made me think of this video on the Volt that resolved this window-down buffeting noise. My car sounds like this but obviously to a much lesser degree with the window closed of course...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w04vo4PXozA
Never thought of that and plausible!
Between 5-6 seconds, 10-11 seconds, etc there's a slight cut in sound. Again, the video quality is not great...
Always resourceful AndyL thanks for posting this fin kit. Might be worth trying if the price is right. I suspect the buffeting is caused by the wind interacting with the mirror and small corner side glass. Then factor in the fact that the glass is regular temperlite, the buffeting noise channels through to the driver's ear. When I test drove the new RX which has the same mirror as the NX and similar small side window, no buffeting noise. I suspect the sound is still there but the triple layer-Lamisafe sound-insulating side glass filters it out.
Made me think of this video on the Volt that resolved this window-down buffeting noise. My car sounds like this but obviously to a much lesser degree with the window closed of course...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w04vo4PXozA
Never thought of that and plausible!
Reasons -
You have to stick all of the parts and not just the fin to the mirror casing to make it work. The fins stick to the B-pillar definitely would mar the finish if you intend to take them off. This is written in the packaging.
There is a bigger picture of the packaging in this link -
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/geki-car/3225536/
On another note, the mirror casing on the RX actually is different. The shape looks similar but the lines and shapes are of different relative proportion. Also the distance of the mirror casing to the side window is different as well. And the relative position of the side mirror to the A-pillar as well as the size of the A-pillar triangular window is different as well. So I bet Lexus has made some improvement on RX regarding the wind buffeting noise. I also suspect the direction/angle of the creases on the upper portion of the door panel may contribute to the wind noise.
#28
The pursuit of F
Thread Starter
^^^AndyL thanks for the information.
As for an update on my testing on noise reduction, I have exhausted many possibilities from the "deer whistle" above to additional rubber mouldings around the door frame... in short no improvement in wind buffeting or noise in general.
The only "conclusion" at this time is that only major aerodynamic changes will reduce the wind noise, or with the addition of Lamisafe side glass like the RX has.
I found sound acoustic film exists that can be applied over glass. I'd try it. Anyone know where to buy this? http://www.s-lec.eu/uk/automotive/acoustic/19/
As for an update on my testing on noise reduction, I have exhausted many possibilities from the "deer whistle" above to additional rubber mouldings around the door frame... in short no improvement in wind buffeting or noise in general.
The only "conclusion" at this time is that only major aerodynamic changes will reduce the wind noise, or with the addition of Lamisafe side glass like the RX has.
I found sound acoustic film exists that can be applied over glass. I'd try it. Anyone know where to buy this? http://www.s-lec.eu/uk/automotive/acoustic/19/
#29
Racer
#30
^^^AndyL thanks for the information.
As for an update on my testing on noise reduction, I have exhausted many possibilities from the "deer whistle" above to additional rubber mouldings around the door frame... in short no improvement in wind buffeting or noise in general.
The only "conclusion" at this time is that only major aerodynamic changes will reduce the wind noise, or with the addition of Lamisafe side glass like the RX has.
I found sound acoustic film exists that can be applied over glass. I'd try it. Anyone know where to buy this? http://www.s-lec.eu/uk/automotive/acoustic/19/
As for an update on my testing on noise reduction, I have exhausted many possibilities from the "deer whistle" above to additional rubber mouldings around the door frame... in short no improvement in wind buffeting or noise in general.
The only "conclusion" at this time is that only major aerodynamic changes will reduce the wind noise, or with the addition of Lamisafe side glass like the RX has.
I found sound acoustic film exists that can be applied over glass. I'd try it. Anyone know where to buy this? http://www.s-lec.eu/uk/automotive/acoustic/19/
I've also been paying attention to whether I can hear this on the passenger side and the sound is just as prevalent there. I tried driving with the mirror folded but that doesn't make any difference at all (it wouldn't be any more aerodynamic but I thought I'd try).
I'm a little disappointed as this is the main issue that I've been having with the car. If there's a fix then I could wait until Lexus possibly issues a TSB but I don't see that happening since we don't know the exact cause yet.
I am looking to tint my front windows so if there's a tint that can also help block acoustics then that would be my best option there (yay 2 in 1). Gotta start looking into this.