Lexus tops Consumer Reports once again
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Lexus tops Consumer Reports once again
Lexus is ranked #1 again by Consumer reports. Guess they did not fuss too much abou the 2015 NX test vehicle loaned to CR crapping out on them (electrical issues).
ARTICLE: https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...174501201.html
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'Consumer Reports' brand rating: Lexus best, Fiat worst
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...fiat/23910563/
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ARTICLE: https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...174501201.html
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'Consumer Reports' brand rating: Lexus best, Fiat worst
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...fiat/23910563/
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#3
The pursuit of F
Mazda surprises me since several owners that I know including family has had some issue or another from electrical to engine piston misfires in their 4-5 year old 3s and 6s.
Audi is definitely upping their game. If they had the same reliability as Lexus, they'd be number 1.
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Lexus Test Driver
Yeah, I'm surprised too. My dad had an '11 Scion tC and apart from the high noise levels, was well built and reliable.
Mazda surprises me since several owners that I know including family has had some issue or another from electrical to engine piston misfires in their 4-5 year old 3s and 6s.
Audi is definitely upping their game. If they had the same reliability as Lexus, they'd be number 1.
Mazda surprises me since several owners that I know including family has had some issue or another from electrical to engine piston misfires in their 4-5 year old 3s and 6s.
Audi is definitely upping their game. If they had the same reliability as Lexus, they'd be number 1.
If I wasn't handy, this thing would have cost thousands in the 3 yrs I have owned it.
Where is my Lexus??
#6
Lexus Champion
I bought a new '06 tC in late 2005. While it was a fun car, I had it in the shop for warranty repairs 16 times in less than 2 years. Granted that was almost 10 years ago. I always assumed I got a rather "unique" one and it was not representative of the brand.
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The pursuit of F
Wow, what were some of the more serious issues?
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Go Jeep!
It's good to see Jeep still going so well. I have known about their "quality" for quite some time.
Here's a fun Jeep story...
About 10 years ago, a friend of mine had a brand new Jeep Cherokee. She was a horsey girl and her hobby was horse "show jumping", so the Jeep was both her plush ride to horse events and something to hitch the horse trailer to. She told me how one day she parked the Jeep at a horse show venue, and it was a particularly hot day in summertime. The car was parked on grass.
At the end of the day she returned to the car, to find that both the driver's and passenger's side window were...missing. Then she spotted the windows - lying on the grass beside the car. Neither window was broken. Both windows had literally fallen out of the car door frames due to the heat of the day.
The incident later happened to her again, while parked at another horse show on another hot day. Quality.
Then, on a third hot horse show day, her vehicle literally caught fire...
OK, I made that up. But the window stuff is a 100% true story. She just used to laugh about it - mainly because she'd actually won the Jeep as a prize in a competition. At first I was envious, but later, less so I suspect she'd have felt pretty differently if she'd bought the car with her own cash.
Here's a fun Jeep story...
About 10 years ago, a friend of mine had a brand new Jeep Cherokee. She was a horsey girl and her hobby was horse "show jumping", so the Jeep was both her plush ride to horse events and something to hitch the horse trailer to. She told me how one day she parked the Jeep at a horse show venue, and it was a particularly hot day in summertime. The car was parked on grass.
At the end of the day she returned to the car, to find that both the driver's and passenger's side window were...missing. Then she spotted the windows - lying on the grass beside the car. Neither window was broken. Both windows had literally fallen out of the car door frames due to the heat of the day.
The incident later happened to her again, while parked at another horse show on another hot day. Quality.
Then, on a third hot horse show day, her vehicle literally caught fire...
OK, I made that up. But the window stuff is a 100% true story. She just used to laugh about it - mainly because she'd actually won the Jeep as a prize in a competition. At first I was envious, but later, less so I suspect she'd have felt pretty differently if she'd bought the car with her own cash.
#10
Lexus Champion
Mazda may have improved things in recent model years. I had a 2011with zero issues in 4+ years. Only routine maintenance. No warranty or TSB work. Great car, we still miss it.
#11
Lexus Champion
Lots of nagging little issues. Some of them include:
Headlight moisture
Rattling sunroof
Rattling liftgate
Buzzing dashboard
Stuck engine thermostat
Stereo display went out
Not factory related, but I had the dealer install a TRD Supercharger and that was replaced for bad bearings.
It was a shame because I really enjoyed the car otherwise.
Headlight moisture
Rattling sunroof
Rattling liftgate
Buzzing dashboard
Stuck engine thermostat
Stereo display went out
Not factory related, but I had the dealer install a TRD Supercharger and that was replaced for bad bearings.
It was a shame because I really enjoyed the car otherwise.
#12
Driver School Candidate
Does anyone else find it strange the Yahoo article bangs on about Tesla being "top", when that only refers to model itself - not the brand?
Surely the bigger story is which brand is the best overall? Lexus isn't even mentioned in the headline.
#13
Lexus Test Driver
From most people I know who have or had mazdas, their sweet period is the first 5 years. Then it starts going down hill apparently. Most traded in at that point or had their lease come up as issues started to appear.
Mine is a 2006 Mazda 3s hatch, and at 9 yrs old, she's showing A LOT of wear and tear in spaces it shouldn't.
Comparison, before my wife's tC was totalled last fall by some jackass, we had a running comparison between the 2006 Mazda3 and 2006 tC. At almost equal miles, you almost couldn't compare them. People thought they were several years apart. The Mazda has rust issues, rattles inside all the time, has interior LEDs out, CD changer is holding 6 of my cds hostage, eats brakes and rotors, clutch and transmission are terrible, eats wheel bearings and other parts (such as the purge valve) constantly. The tC, at 104k miles when she died, had no rust to speak of, was yet to require any work outside of normal maintenance. That little Toyota was a dream.
Lets just say, if I'm going to go Japanese, i shall not return to mazda ever again.
My other gripe with mazda is that they feel they are "luxury" in some way. And they openly charge you labor based on that. On Christmas eve of 2013, i got a CEL, and after getting gas, the car wouldn't restart. After doing some research, i found it was the purge valve and was an epic mazda fail on these cars. So I called mazda to get a price point and they wanted $450 to do the work. So I said hell with that, bought the part on an OEM mazda site for $75, and installed it in 15 mins. Crooks.
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It's good to see Jeep still going so well. I have known about their "quality" for quite some time.
Here's a fun Jeep story...
About 10 years ago, a friend of mine had a brand new Jeep Cherokee. She was a horsey girl and her hobby was horse "show jumping", so the Jeep was both her plush ride to horse events and something to hitch the horse trailer to. She told me how one day she parked the Jeep at a horse show venue, and it was a particularly hot day in summertime. The car was parked on grass.
At the end of the day she returned to the car, to find that both the driver's and passenger's side window were...missing. Then she spotted the windows - lying on the grass beside the car. Neither window was broken. Both windows had literally fallen out of the car door frames due to the heat of the day.
The incident later happened to her again, while parked at another horse show on another hot day. Quality.
Then, on a third hot horse show day, her vehicle literally caught fire...
OK, I made that up. But the window stuff is a 100% true story. She just used to laugh about it - mainly because she'd actually won the Jeep as a prize in a competition. At first I was envious, but later, less so I suspect she'd have felt pretty differently if she'd bought the car with her own cash.
Here's a fun Jeep story...
About 10 years ago, a friend of mine had a brand new Jeep Cherokee. She was a horsey girl and her hobby was horse "show jumping", so the Jeep was both her plush ride to horse events and something to hitch the horse trailer to. She told me how one day she parked the Jeep at a horse show venue, and it was a particularly hot day in summertime. The car was parked on grass.
At the end of the day she returned to the car, to find that both the driver's and passenger's side window were...missing. Then she spotted the windows - lying on the grass beside the car. Neither window was broken. Both windows had literally fallen out of the car door frames due to the heat of the day.
The incident later happened to her again, while parked at another horse show on another hot day. Quality.
Then, on a third hot horse show day, her vehicle literally caught fire...
OK, I made that up. But the window stuff is a 100% true story. She just used to laugh about it - mainly because she'd actually won the Jeep as a prize in a competition. At first I was envious, but later, less so I suspect she'd have felt pretty differently if she'd bought the car with her own cash.
#15
Lexus Champion
The more Mazda has separated themselves from Ford, the more success they have had.
From most people I know who have or had mazdas, their sweet period is the first 5 years. Then it starts going down hill apparently. Most traded in at that point or had their lease come up as issues started to appear.
Mine is a 2006 Mazda 3s hatch, and at 9 yrs old, she's showing A LOT of wear and tear in spaces it shouldn't.
Comparison, before my wife's tC was totalled last fall by some jackass, we had a running comparison between the 2006 Mazda3 and 2006 tC. At almost equal miles, you almost couldn't compare them. People thought they were several years apart. The Mazda has rust issues, rattles inside all the time, has interior LEDs out, CD changer is holding 6 of my cds hostage, eats brakes and rotors, clutch and transmission are terrible, eats wheel bearings and other parts (such as the purge valve) constantly. The tC, at 104k miles when she died, had no rust to speak of, was yet to require any work outside of normal maintenance. That little Toyota was a dream.
Lets just say, if I'm going to go Japanese, i shall not return to mazda ever again.
My other gripe with mazda is that they feel they are "luxury" in some way. And they openly charge you labor based on that. On Christmas eve of 2013, i got a CEL, and after getting gas, the car wouldn't restart. After doing some research, i found it was the purge valve and was an epic mazda fail on these cars. So I called mazda to get a price point and they wanted $450 to do the work. So I said hell with that, bought the part on an OEM mazda site for $75, and installed it in 15 mins. Crooks.
From most people I know who have or had mazdas, their sweet period is the first 5 years. Then it starts going down hill apparently. Most traded in at that point or had their lease come up as issues started to appear.
Mine is a 2006 Mazda 3s hatch, and at 9 yrs old, she's showing A LOT of wear and tear in spaces it shouldn't.
Comparison, before my wife's tC was totalled last fall by some jackass, we had a running comparison between the 2006 Mazda3 and 2006 tC. At almost equal miles, you almost couldn't compare them. People thought they were several years apart. The Mazda has rust issues, rattles inside all the time, has interior LEDs out, CD changer is holding 6 of my cds hostage, eats brakes and rotors, clutch and transmission are terrible, eats wheel bearings and other parts (such as the purge valve) constantly. The tC, at 104k miles when she died, had no rust to speak of, was yet to require any work outside of normal maintenance. That little Toyota was a dream.
Lets just say, if I'm going to go Japanese, i shall not return to mazda ever again.
My other gripe with mazda is that they feel they are "luxury" in some way. And they openly charge you labor based on that. On Christmas eve of 2013, i got a CEL, and after getting gas, the car wouldn't restart. After doing some research, i found it was the purge valve and was an epic mazda fail on these cars. So I called mazda to get a price point and they wanted $450 to do the work. So I said hell with that, bought the part on an OEM mazda site for $75, and installed it in 15 mins. Crooks.