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Old 04-25-14, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sg021
That actually brings up an interesting theoretical point since that Macan won't get to the US. Based on US prices, the Macan S starts at $50k, and the AWD RX at $41k. Knock a few thousand off the Macan for the much smaller engine, and suddenly the cars are only 4-5k apart.

Porsche gives you a million a la carte options to run the tab way up, whereas you can select from all of 2 packages on your RX.
Porsche does indeed offer a lot of packages and options, but let's not be overly dramatic on the RX. Available packages on the RX:

Navigation System Package
Rear Seat Entertainment and Navigation Package
Premium Package
Comfort Package
Luxury Package with Blind Spot Monitor
Sport Appearance Package

You could also consider the F Sport a package.

On top of that, there are 11 stand alone options.
Old 04-25-14, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
Porsche does indeed offer a lot of packages and options, but let's not be overly dramatic on the RX. Available packages on the RX:

Navigation System Package
Rear Seat Entertainment and Navigation Package
Premium Package
Comfort Package
Luxury Package with Blind Spot Monitor
Sport Appearance Package

You could also consider the F Sport a package.

On top of that, there are 11 stand alone options.
You are right, I forgot about that other page. Why is none of that integrated into the builder? It's like they're trying to drive people away...
Old 04-25-14, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
And here I thought that Lexus was first with full LED headlights :-)

SUVs cost more than sedans... So just like X3 is more expensive than 3 series, so would NX be more expensive than ES.

Not to mention that ES does not have the same equipment and features and certainly interior looks like two steps below NX.

So this is why they artificially limit the price.
I really don't think the NX will be more expensive than the ES. When the RX came out in 1998, it was about the same price as the ES. The NX dimensions are about the same as the original RX.
Old 04-25-14, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sg021
You are right, I forgot about that other page. Why is none of that integrated into the builder? It's like they're trying to drive people away...
Agreed. The "Build Your Lexus" portion of the site is horrendous and causes a lot of confusion and frustration.
Old 04-25-14, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
Agreed. The "Build Your Lexus" portion of the site is horrendous and causes a lot of confusion and frustration.
It could use a serious upgrade/revamp.

I also would like to see more panoramic roofs on Lexus vehicles..all of them...really a shame the LS doesn't offer it.
Old 04-25-14, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LexFather
I also would like to see more panoramic roofs on Lexus vehicles..all of them...really a shame the LS doesn't offer it.
I agree. When we bought our RX, the lack of a panoramic roof was a real disappointment. We had rented an SRX with the roof while on vacation in Hawaii and loved it, and had a similar experience with a Grand Cherokee as a rental in San Diego.
Old 04-25-14, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I agree. When we bought our RX, the lack of a panoramic roof was a real disappointment. We had rented an SRX with the roof while on vacation in Hawaii and loved it, and had a similar experience with a Grand Cherokee as a rental in San Diego.
Agreed. In particular, I find the marketing/packaging decision made for the RX and the Toyota Venza sold in N.A. very strange. For Venza, you can get the panoramic roof whereas it not available in RX and yet they make the roof rail almost a standard equipment but with no inserts.

While one might think the reason is Venza, which has a lower height, being considered a RV used in urban setting and so nobody really beat it up with stuff being loaded on the roof and do camping.

However, it doesn't necessarily imply all RV owners would use the roof rail because it has a higher clearance and height. For one, I never use the roof rail. In fact, without inserts, the roof rail are for cosmetics and it is a chore when doing a hand car wash.

In Japan, the roof rail only was standard with the sports package only prior to the Spindle Grill treatment. Currently, it is optional even with the F Sport models. For some other countries, the roof rail has never been available at all.

Now for the NX, I see Lexus has tried to differentiate the luxury and F Sport version by either having panoramic glass or roof rail. For regular model (luxury model or called Version L in some countries such as Japan), it comes with panoramic glass (could be optional, don't know yet). For F Sport, it comes with roof rail.

If panoramic glass is not made available Stateside, then the way to differentiate F Sport from regular NX models is the lack of certain basic features such as auto-sensing wiper, ventilated seats, etc. I hope it is not the case as I am sure some 2014 IS owners have complained about it.
Old 04-25-14, 10:23 AM
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2011 Ford Escape 2.5L Hybrid AWD
+177 hp @ 6000 RPM
+3829 lbs @ 174.7" length
+ 30/27 MPG

How much better can the NX300h do with 17 more hp? Is 32 MPG (combined) even possible in AWD?
Old 04-25-14, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Psychoart
2011 Ford Escape 2.5L Hybrid AWD
+177 hp @ 6000 RPM
+3829 lbs @ 174.7" length
+ 30/27 MPG

How much better can the NX300h do with 17 more hp? Is 32 MPG (combined) even possible in AWD?
This is some good perspective, but that was the first gen Escape Hybrid and its MPGs wasn't that great. It;s the same mileage as an RXh or Highlander hybrid which has 100+ more hp and weighs 800+ lbs more.

34-36mpgs for the NXh appears very realistic (AWD on the lower end, FWD higher end)

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Old 04-25-14, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
This is some good perspective, but that was the first gen Escape Hybrid and its MPGs wasn't that great. It;s the same mileage as an RXh or Highlander hybrid which has 100+ more hp and weighs 800+ lbs more.

34-36mpgs for the NXh appears very realistic (AWD on the lower end, FWD higher end)
The one he posted posted is actually a second gen. The first gen debuted as a 2005 model with a 2.0 I4 (133hp) and electric motors made the total (155hp). FWD 30/28/29 and AWD 28/26/27
Old 04-25-14, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
34-36mpgs for the NXh appears very realistic (AWD on the lower end, FWD higher end)
Seeing as how we're already averaging close to 28 mpg in our 2010 RX 450h, that wouldn't be enough of a fuel-economy improvement to tempt me to trade it in for a lower-powered, smaller, and probably less comfortable NXh -- even if we had a lot of miles on our '10 RXh, which we don't. (Bought it last Nov. with less than 15K on it.)

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Old 04-25-14, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamlab
No Mark Levinson = No Buy...
Here's a confirmation of ML on the NX, although we're still not sure of the US-spec, which is usually deprived of many fancier options.
Old 04-25-14, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Aptosuser
Seeing as how we're already averaging close to 28 mpg in our 2010 RX 450h, that wouldn't be enough of a fuel-economy improvement to tempt me to trade it in for a lower-powered, smaller, and probably less comfortable NXh -- even if we had a lot of miles on our '10 RXh, which we don't. (Bought it last Nov. with less than 15K on it.)
If you average 28 MPG in RX450h, you would probably average 8-10 MPG more on NX200h.

Now, trading 100hp? I wouldnt.

NX should be considerably lighter car, so driving experience should be quite different, even if NX is likely going to be considerably slower.
Old 04-25-14, 05:24 PM
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Does anyone know the type of fuel the NX turbo will take? Considering the RX takes unleaded it would make sense the turbo does too. I would think considering high fuel prices keep going up this would draw more ppl to look at the NX if it doesn't require premium fuel....especially since the Q5 n X3 requires premium.
Old 04-25-14, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MiFu
Does anyone know the type of fuel the NX turbo will take? Considering the RX takes unleaded it would make sense the turbo does too. I would think considering high fuel prices keep going up this would draw more ppl to look at the NX if it doesn't require premium fuel....especially since the Q5 n X3 requires premium.
Got to believe premium will be required with the turbo.


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