LexFather

I need to read up on what the competition offers to be honest. I hope it eventually gets more than one engine choice.

SW17LS

Just because the NX is built on a Rav 4 Chassis doesn't mean it will be a rebadged Rav 4. Your RX is on a Camry Chassis....is it a rebadged Camry? Weren't you as foolish as an NX buyer for buying your RX when you could have had a Highlander or Venza? Same chassis. Same motors. The chassis is just the starting point.

Using your logic...the RX should not sell...yet it is the best selling vehicle in the segment. ES should not sell...best selling vehicle in the segment. The RX and ES make up over half of Lexus' total sales...and are derived from Toyota chassis with Toyota power trains so why would nobody buy an NX because its derived from the Rav4?

275HP is tremendous for a small SUV lol. Bear in mind the 2.0 Q5 gets 220hp. The Q5 3.0 TFSI only gets 272HP.

HP is only part of it. The Rav4 is a very cheap, dowdy driving appliance. Its not going to even be comparable to an NX.

You act as if the only thing compact luxury SUV buyers want is power lol. The NX will be far more attractive, well built, luxurious, more nicely appointed, smoother and quieter riding, and better handling SUV than an economy Rav4. As for your RX...why should you trade an RX in on an NX? The RX is supposed to be the move up vehicle from the NX.

You just don't understand this segment of vehicle, but you have to recognize people are buying small luxury SUVs with less power than a V6 Rav4 every day already, its a very popular segment. Look at the Q5, they are everywhere and almost every one I see is the 2.0 with only 220hp. Look at the X3, most of them are the 28i with only 240hp.

Different segment but look at the Rav4...why do you think they d/c'd the V6? Nobody bought it.

LexBob2

The compact luxury CUV segment is still hot right now. With X3, GLK, Q5, and RDX. The NX with the Lexus badge should do well. I saw the new Lincoln MKC at the auto show on Monday and it looks very nice in person and should sell well provided Lincoln can generate interest in it.

Aptosuser

I replaced my '07 RAV4 V6 with a barely used (excuse me, "pre-owned") RX 450h in November. I loved the RAV 268 hp V6 engine's smoothness and power, but I couldn't take the ride anymore. I'd originally planned to wait for the NX hybrid that I'd heard Lexus would bring to market for 2015, but the RX deal was just too good to pass up. The biggest question I have at this point is whether the NX will ride better than the RAV4. Secondly, how much capacity will it have? One report I read said that in the concept car, the center console went all the way from the front seat to the rear seat, which would limit the number of passengers to four. As for power, I read that the NX hybrid crossover will use the same drivetrain as the 2012 and later Camry hybrid, which generates 200 combined hp between the ICE and the EV. We like our '12 Camry hybrid and that would probably be enough for me in an NX but it seems like a lot of people commenting in this thread want something with more oomph.

I haven't seen anything about Toyota coming out with a hybrid RAV4 anytime soon and I'm wondering whether their strategy is to entice RAV owners, especially those who bought 4-cylinder cars either by choice or default, to upgrade to a baby Lexus.

rogerh00

Well, your wrong there. I plan on turning in my RX for the NX-h. Not everyone makes their buying decision on HP.

Aptosuser

What year is your RX and how long have you had it?

dgsvt

Had to pick up a new key for moms new honda. They are a BMW dealership also... X3 m sport 3.0 inside. After hearing how crappy the interior was I was amazed. It was very nice. In fact it was a huge improvement over my 50k 2011 rx350. 300hp 50k... The x3 with the 2.0 was 43k window sticker. I hope that the estimates of a 50k price for the NX are wrong as the competition is way lower than that and their interior is a step above a 50k rx350. Salesman saw my lexus and said that BMW has service included in price. What??? I have 8k in service cost over 7 years 120k miles with my is350 and that 8k doesn't include tires.

SW17LS

Did you not know this? BMWs come with 4 years 50,000 miles of included maintenance. Brakes are included, but not tires.

You pay for it, just in the price of the vehicle. In my experience optioned similarly BMWs are about $10,000 more expensive than a comparable Lexus.

dgsvt

That 8k was not including tires... I am confused how or why Lexus would price this anywhere near 50k if they are going to spec it with 240hp and a lower quality interior than rx350. I am not replacing rx with nx. Was thinking of replacing is350 with nx and then replacing rx with a gs-f

RXSF

^^ there are a few things we need to get straightened out.

The bmw only comes with 4 years/50 thousand miles of free maintenance.

Your new lexus will come with 2 free maintenance included, at 5K and at 10K (oil change). The bmw will only require 1 year/10K mile visits while lexus recommends every 5K, basically to top off fluid and rotate tires. In essence, you can skip them.

In my experience, the service cost for newer lexus models is about $150-200 dollars. So assuming you don't go through your brakes in 4 years, you are only spending at most 800 dollars on maintenance,

As for the cost of the NX, it is slotting under the RX so I am assuming a starting price of 35K. The RX has the opportunity to move a bit upmarket next generation, probably coming in the low 40s.

SW17LS

What did you spend $8k on in maintenance to an IS?!?

Why would you assume that its going to have a lower quality interior than the RX350? I would imagine that the RX will go upmarket some and get larger with the NX in the lineup. $50k would be an absolutely loaded NX. Go to BMW.com and price the X3. Prices on dealer stocked cars look good, but when you compare them feature for feature those cars are very lightly featured. I just priced a X3 3.5 X Drive with leather and the M Sport package. Its $50k as you said. That car doesn't even have navigation, smart key entry/start or heated seats. When I add the technology package, premium package and cold weather package that would be comparable to a loaded NX the price is...$56,075.

As for HP...again look at the competition. Q5 is over $50k loaded with the 3.0 @ 240hp. Guess what a 240 HP X3 28i with those options stickers for? $52,875.

rogerh00

I have a 2013 Rx on a 3 yr lease which is about half over. I'm speculating by the time my lease is up the new RX will be out or known. Speculation is it will be bloated up to accommodate a third row like the Highlander was in 2008. I want no part of a mini van RX hence my planning on an NX as a replacement especially since it will be available with the hybrid system. Of course this is all pending on seeing and driving the real NX and new RX. This time frame will also give the NX a year to be on the market. I never want to buy a first yr vehicle.

LexBob2

On the Q5, the TDI has 240 hp. (and a lot of torque) and the 3.0 gas engine is 272 hp.

Aptosuser

I can understand why you'd get a new vehicle so soon since you're leasing. You'd probably be returning your '13 RX in 2016 when the NX will have been on the market for a year. It makes no sense for me financially or otherwise since I'm buying our CPO '10 RXh to own (and plan to pay off the loan this year) and because I really, really like the car. You're smart to stay away from any new car in its first model year. I made that mistake when I traded a 1971 VW Super Beetle for one of the first VW Rabbits in 1975. It was a total disaster and I haven't looked at a VW since.

I am looking forward to seeing the new NXh in any case. Maybe the dealer will let me drive one as a loaner sometime.

dgsvt

Someone on here said the interior on the NX would be comparable to an ES350 or the next lower quality level sedan... The RX is very plain, but still nicer than the ES. Example would be fake plastic stitching on dash to imitate a real stitched dash.

I was not home when I typed the 8K service number. The service cost on my 2005 RX330 was $8,488 over the 100K miles I owned it. That did not include the cost of tires as the dealership included a free tire for life warranty. Just paid for mounting and balancing of said free tires.

The IS350 service bill is at 10,179.48 and I haven't completed the 120K service yet as the odo is at 119,197. This also includes the same free tires for life warranty. I am not complaining and know there are other cheaper options for service. I am happy with the level of service I get and there is always a loaner car there for me. This is what my is350 needed so far.
5K service free
10K service 180.50
15K service 341.54
20K service 465.33 included mount an balance front tires and alignment
25K service 163.47
30K service 624.00
35K service 181.17
40K service 548.12 included mount and balance front tires and alignment
(warranty replaced front wheel bearings)
45K service 433.53
50K service 173.54
55K service 192.66
60K service 1,769.32 included brake pads flush brake fluid, mount and balance 4 tires and alignment
65K service 279.06
70K service 407.21 included new battery and spark plugs ( I know I got a deal due to the valve spring recall being done at the same time so plug install was free)
75K service 439.88
80K service 244.27 fuel injector throttle body cleaning
85K service 170.11
90K service 1,877.30 included complete brake job rotors and pads plus fluid flush. mount and balance 4 tires and alignment. warranty replacement of wheel hubs and cam gears
95K service 171.15
100K service 357.88 included new hid headlight bulb
105K service 454.78 included other hid headlight bulb
110K service 163.27
115K service 541.56 included spark plugs, pcv valve, rear diff service. These were done before the 120K service due to the dealership completing the Cam gear recall. These other services were discounted due to the recall.

There you have it... $10K spent in the service department not including 5 sets of front tires and 2 sets of rear tires. If we are comparing 40K miles for service I have about $2,600 spent by that point. Again, I am very happy with my dealership and would recommend them to all my friends and family.