Rounded bolt -- AAAAGGGHHHH!
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Rounded bolt -- AAAAGGGHHHH!
Okay, so I'm replacing the gas struts in my trunk, that hold up the trunk lid. I got one installed without a problem. But on the other one, the bolt is too tight to remove. Unfortunately I managed to round off part of it. I tried using some Liquid Wrench to loosen it, with no results. I can't fit a bolt-out socket on it because there is something covering the bolt head (it's a bolt with a ball on it that fits into a socket on the old strut). I'm also worried that the ball might extend out too far for a socket to reach the bolt part that it needs to grip.
Normally one can use a propane torch to heat up the thing and make it expand. This is NOT a good idea in this case because 1) it's a compressed gas strut, and the gas end is the one with the bolt on it, and 2) it's 7" away from the gas tank.
Does anyone have any recommendations on proceeding? Perhaps use a Dremel tool to cut the plastic part of the strut off the ball, and hope that a bolt-out socket will fit over the exposed ball to reach the bolt?
Normally one can use a propane torch to heat up the thing and make it expand. This is NOT a good idea in this case because 1) it's a compressed gas strut, and the gas end is the one with the bolt on it, and 2) it's 7" away from the gas tank.
Does anyone have any recommendations on proceeding? Perhaps use a Dremel tool to cut the plastic part of the strut off the ball, and hope that a bolt-out socket will fit over the exposed ball to reach the bolt?
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I think the round thing can be popped off, I'm not sure cause I replaced a strut over a year ago. Anyways, do a search, I found a tutorial, which I used, to help me replace my strut.
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Well yes, I did find that tutorial, and it was very helpful in replacing the one strut I managed to get unbolted. It doesn't really address the issue of prying off the ball end of a strut that can't be unbolted. I gave that a try, and honestly the old strut doesn't seem to be designed to release once the ball is snapped into place.
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The strut will not release from the ball?
(There was a little clip holding it, that may not be fully removed.)
Or the ball/bolt will not unscrew from the mounting?
(Vise grips are your friend.)
(There was a little clip holding it, that may not be fully removed.)
Or the ball/bolt will not unscrew from the mounting?
(Vise grips are your friend.)
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...as is heat.
I've installed 4 sets of those trunk struts and would not hesitate to use a torch.
It is not that close to the cylinder or the tank, and it's not gonna need much heat before the loc-tite begins to soften. If you're that cautious, use a cigarette lighter.
It is not that close to the cylinder or the tank, and it's not gonna need much heat before the loc-tite begins to soften. If you're that cautious, use a cigarette lighter.
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Originally Posted by TeeDub
The strut will not release from the ball?
(There was a little clip holding it, that may not be fully removed.)
Or the ball/bolt will not unscrew from the mounting?
(Vise grips are your friend.)
(There was a little clip holding it, that may not be fully removed.)
Or the ball/bolt will not unscrew from the mounting?
(Vise grips are your friend.)
I actually did try using a Zippo lighter to heat the bolt and loosen it. It didn't work. Afterward I thought, "open flame on the gas end of a gas strut, and 7" away from the gas tank, just screams 'Bad Idea (TM).'"
I think a Dremel is my next step.
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I had similar problems when I removed mine... There really should be just a littel metal clip holding the strut to the ball... If you can get in there and look (easier said than done.)
If nothing else, get a bigger hammer. (Just whack the strut a time or two and beat it off the ball.. That whole ball/screw is going to come out anyway.)
If nothing else, get a bigger hammer. (Just whack the strut a time or two and beat it off the ball.. That whole ball/screw is going to come out anyway.)
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Originally Posted by TeeDub
I had similar problems when I removed mine... There really should be just a littel metal clip holding the strut to the ball... If you can get in there and look (easier said than done.)
A big hammer sounds like a good idea, and possibly good therapy.
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A coarse file or rotary tool to remove the cartridge. Then the file to get some flats back on the rounded nut so you can get a wrench on it.
This is one PITA with various hand tools and fasteners. The production levels leave some wide tolerances and the wrong combo screws it all up. A while back I had to take a micrometer to a bunch of hex keys and measure the tolerances. I learned then I should check critical bolts before randomly taking a wrench to them. Even knowing that, I go at it blindly and have messed up my share along the way.
Good luck with yours.
This is one PITA with various hand tools and fasteners. The production levels leave some wide tolerances and the wrong combo screws it all up. A while back I had to take a micrometer to a bunch of hex keys and measure the tolerances. I learned then I should check critical bolts before randomly taking a wrench to them. Even knowing that, I go at it blindly and have messed up my share along the way.
Good luck with yours.
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Originally Posted by RA40
I learned then I should check critical bolts before randomly taking a wrench to them.
He couldn't find an English wrench that would fit it, either, so I presume that production tolerance for the bolt in question is to blame.
Thanks for the advice about the file -- that's a good idea. I'm going to try cutting the strut and the ball off and seeing if I can fit a socket wrench on it.
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