mikeivan

A good friend, in the market for a new SUV, tells me that Mercedes Benz and BMW are bringing out all new, top line SUV's for 2018. This guy knows the market. Any chance that Lexus will follow suit and update the LX in 2018? Please? That would be a 10 year cycle. Wishful thinking, I know. Any info, appreciated.

Chocolate

Refresh came in 2016, so 2018/2019 is a safe bet. But, you may not like what you get. Think of the 3.5L Turbo 6 in the Expedition.

The 200 is getting long in the tooth for sure, but I like a model where some of the issues have been worked out. (Example: Radiator on the earlier 200s prone to failure were fixed in later years). We're at 9 years since the 200 series was introduced. But, the 8 speed only increased the fuel econ a tiny amount, so I expect more aggressive changes for the next model.

ClaytonW

The 2016 refresh was quite large. So forget for a new LX in 2018. Maybe there is a small chance in 2019 but I would bet for 2020 or 2021.

ggebhardt

Nothing would get me to purchase another Benz, nothing.

hankinid

So if a buyer is focused on a Toyota 200 series, why would you go after an MBZ or BMW? Watch a few comparo tests between the current models...Toyota comes out on top. Why would 2018's so-called German "top line SUV" beat the Toyota trucks?

Wandl

Following the LS460 thread, the revamped (supposed 2018 LS) is coming out with a V6. With that, I would imagine that the LX would also come with a more efficient powertrain; not sure it will be a supercharged V6 because of the heft and durability the LX/LC needs to live up to.
Given the refresh for 2016, I would imagine there would be "tweaks" for 2019 LX but assume 2021 or 2022 before a net-new LX comes out....LX/LC did change up a considerable bit for the 2016 LX, I can't imagine them only running this body style for 3-4 years.

ClaytonW

I agree - 2021/2022 is probably what we should expect.
BTW, I don't believe that new LS would have V6 as the only option although I also follow the LS460 thread (I own '14 LS460). It may happen that there will be V6 at the base model but V8 will be available (at least for the USA). Or... maybe not. But then I will not buy the new LS. At this moment I am quite unhappy because it's almost sure that the new LS will have its cruise control button moved on the steering wheel (not the lever).

Chocolate

The 5.7 L V8 is one of the least fuel efficient engines you can buy today for a passenger vehicle or light truck. Remember the tougher MPG standards coming, I expect a powertrain change in just a few years.

lexusrus

I would buy a BIG Benz SUV only if the reliability is up to par to Lexus .

T4Fun

every 3 years this is getting major refreshes. so by 2019 a whole new model will be here. count on it!

lexusrus

I can't wait! !!

malba2366

I think Toyota will try to make a more efficient V8 that they will use in the Tundra as well. The Germans have their hands tied with the move to turbos since they don't really sell any very fuel efficient cars like Toyota does.

Randy B

The Tundra/Sequoia is a North America market only platform. The 200 and 150 series are world markets. This year, the LX was sold with a 4.5 liter diesel as a LX570 option (First time ever as a Lexus). It's not a for sure solution to MPG, however its a start. The GX is not available in diesel anywhere. The 150/200 have been around in diesel since inception as Toyota's. They have some possibilities, its the sales/marketing department and the US import tariff that slow these diesels down for intro into the US.

Hopefully they will have a reasonable solution soon.

Randy B

Chocolate

I agree. A smaller but more advanced V8 is a strong possibility.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_UR_engine

The 5.7 (one of the largest displacement engines you can buy, other than in HD trucks) weighs in at 490 pounds.

ggebhardt

I would say the odds are very sim for the reliability part.