R Z

Unfortunately, even Carfax is only as good as the reports entered into their system. When I bought my car, I did a thorough search through Lexus and Carfax. It all came back clean. But now I'm seeing there was some damage on the passenger side back panel. Not enough to be an issue, but it's apparent that anything can fall through the cracks.

Gbp

Agreed that you can't always rely on Carfax to provide complete information. It all depends on what gets reported to Carfax or, rather, whatever Carfax draws its information from. My main point is that short of complete service records for a vehicle, a conbination of online Lexus service records, Carfax, Autotrader, and an independent mechanic's evaluation (with or without other information), are important tools when considering purchasing a car.

Perhaps a good mechanic ciould have detected the minor damage you described.

sparky3

Just drove a 2015 ES300h. Nice car, but I might get bored after a while.
Ironically, and this is the truth - my boss just PM'd me and he's giving me a promotion I've been after for months now. Might have to step back into a newer LS. There's a reason it's the flagship...

redlight30

My 2010 SWB AWD had close to $20k in warranty repairs on the suspension (struts/shocks( you name it, which is one reason i unloaded it. That year seems to have real issues for whatever reason as in consumer reports it was the only black circle i saw on any year any category.

peteybabes

Specifically '09-'10 had suspension issues (consumer reports) and squeaking brake issues.

Gbp

Does anyone know if the problems reported in 2009-2010 had mostly to do with cars equipped with the air suspension? Furthermore, what changes occurred in 2011 to change the reliability of the suspension from much worse than average to better than average? Thanks!

Wandl

From the TSB's that Lexus released, they revised the control arms 2011 onwards (someone correct me if I'm wrong). 07-10 models had the control arm problems that led to costly ($3-$5k) repairs but isn't prevalent in all cars...

Gbp

Thanks! Apparently, it's T-SB-0021-12

http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/...dPdf?id=173798

From the same data source, here are the search results for 2010 LS460 TSB's:

http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/Tsb/...75&Model=5862&

2010 LS600h TSB's:

http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/Tsb/...=75&Model=6589

You can change the YEAR value in the above URL's to see TSB's for other LS460 or LS609h model years. You can also do a TSB search here for a specific year, make, and model, but it seems you must enter a particular car system to search within (at least for the 2010 LS460, but not the 2010 LS600h):

http://www.revbase.com/bbbmotor

The above information might prove useful to those experiencing problems with their cars.