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Old 10-07-14, 06:38 PM
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LS 460 is #8 but has the best reliability...and BMW's the worst...as the members tell us

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Panamera is just a sweet ride...if I ever get out of the LS line which after 2 years of ownership I highly doubt it

The Merc S class is top shelf of course but affordability and reliability are real life issues with it I guess
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The Lexus should be in the top 3 for its reliability and dependability as far as I'm concern. Each to their own.
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Originally Posted by dlbuckls10
The Lexus should be in the top 3 for its reliability and dependability as far as I'm concern. Each to their own.
Ummm...it got number ONE in that report. LOL.
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With all the perceived bloody murder around here and still having a stellar reliability report it makes you wonder how bad the other cars reliability must be like.
What I find remarkable is that we don't even know exactly how much better LS is in regards to reliability compared to the competition.
What if they allotted a sixth dot, would the LS fill that space also.
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Agreed!.

Unhappy people or complainers are move vocal compared to the happy or pleased

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With all the perceived bloody murder around here and still having a stellar reliability report it makes you wonder how bad the other cars reliability must be like.
What I find remarkable is that we don't even know exactly how much better LS is in regards to reliability compared to the competition.
What if they allotted a sixth dot, would the LS fill that space also.
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Originally Posted by GregoryNP
Agreed!. Unhappy people or complainers are move vocal compared to the happy or pleased
Which I try to convey around here, every LS460/600hl owner is not unhappy with their car or have every issue that is reported on this forum nor having every issue happen to them while owning the car. I also think it's getting old when previous gen LS owners come rain on 460 owners parade or try to persuade them from the 460. If you do your homework and make sure the items are thoroughly check and taking care of buying used one is not a bad idea. You have take complaints with a grain of salt and be open minded, remember this is the internet and we may not get the whole story nor know the real history of the car with the issue. However as always this community is glad to jump in help the member resolve their issue when presented or point them in the right direction. No car is perfect especially when dealing in the previous owned world, yes there are common issues that affect the 460 I won't deny that but the 460 is not a lemon.
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From Miriam-Webster's Dictionary:

Lem´on Pronunciation: lĕm´ŭn
noun

1. Yellow citrus fruit
2. BMW 745i

Guess I'm spolied with my LS after my BMW experiences.
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Originally Posted by roadfrog
From Miriam-Webster's Dictionary:

Lem´on Pronunciation: lĕm´ŭn
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1. Yellow citrus fruit
2. BMW 745i

Guess I'm spolied with my LS after my BMW experiences.
too funny. thanks.
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"sufficient power and gives it reasonable acceleration" Who are they kidding??? Sounds like we need to run thru the gears with their testers!!
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Originally Posted by hjones4841
"sufficient power and gives it reasonable acceleration" Who are they kidding??? Sounds like we need to run thru the gears with their testers!!

While the LS460 has good power, the acceleration is nothing to rave about. Quick for a heavy car, yes. Quick car in general, no.
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You gotta look at it from a "car reviewer" point of view. Everyone wants Bentley Continental Super Sport power and luxury, for a Fiat 500 price. They say its slow compared to the others, sure that may be. But look at the engineering. Lexus engines are reliable as hell and you can beat the crap out of them and they take it. Try that with that BMW 745i. They seriously get 11mpg. I drove a 2009 745LI for about 20 mins on a test drive, and that was about 19mins longer than I should have. The HUD showed 11mpg while cruising, and I mashed it to get to highway and it was much less when I looked down. It was fast though. But unreliable, TERRIBLE on gas, and its gauges are plain.

And seriously. No Audi belongs on this list. Not a single one. I tested one of those Audi SUV things. My lord. What a slug. Serious hesitation followed by braking insufficient for the weight. They overlook everything. Audi's reliability is set too high on this one. should get 3 out of 10 for reliability. Timing sets where you have to pull the transmission, oil consuming 2.8TT, sludge factory 1.8T, come on with that.
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Originally Posted by GSteg
While the LS460 has good power, the acceleration is nothing to rave about. Quick for a heavy car, yes. Quick car in general, no.
In it's defense it's quicker then 90% of the cars on the road. A luxury car is not suppose to be a lead sled, it's suppose to have quality power for luxury and in this department the LS is over fulfilled.
The problem is that some manufactures do not understand the concept so they play the marketing game with insane horsepower numbers to sell cars.
Much of this power is unusable on the road and will get anyone into trouble quick,the traction control will also get then the way.

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Originally Posted by Devh
Much of this power is unusable on the road and will get anyone into trouble quick,the traction control will also get then the way.
Coming from a long line of Detroit iron from 50 years of driving, I was pleasantly surprised by the power of the LS 460. On acceleration alone, it reminds me of the muscle cars of the 1960s without all their drama.

I certainly need no more power than the Lexus 4.6; and you are correct, even it can get an average driver quickly in trouble. With clogged urban roads and 18 wheeler lined rural interstates, there are not many places to use even a part of it. I will take a car that I can get into, confident that it will get me to "point B" without a detour to the local dealer or a call to the motor club.
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Originally Posted by hjones4841
Coming from a long line of Detroit iron from 50 years of driving, I was pleasantly surprised by the power of the LS 460. On acceleration alone, it reminds me of the muscle cars of the 1960s without all their drama.

I certainly need no more power than the Lexus 4.6; and you are correct, even it can get an average driver quickly in trouble. With clogged urban roads and 18 wheeler lined rural interstates, there are not many places to use even a part of it. I will take a car that I can get into, confident that it will get me to "point B" without a detour to the local dealer or a call to the motor club.
Exactly. The LS essentially has the power of the old big blocks.
I think the biggest problem with driving today is bad drivers that insist of talking on the phone, texting and eating behind the wheel. It's one of the main reasons why I decided that motorcycles are no longer for me.


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