LS460 Carista App Review - Ability To Change Lexus Personalized Settings
06-19-14, 04:27 PM
#31
Additional to my last:
It might be helpful for Carista to somehow relate the "official" Lexus Personalized Settings to Carista's Lexus settings. To that end, I have attached the LPS sheet for my 2013 LS460 from the Lexus Drivers site. Hope this helps.
It might be helpful for Carista to somehow relate the "official" Lexus Personalized Settings to Carista's Lexus settings. To that end, I have attached the LPS sheet for my 2013 LS460 from the Lexus Drivers site. Hope this helps.
06-19-14, 04:54 PM
#32
Ok, here are my replies:
Temperature dial calibration
-2°C / -1°C / *NORMAL* / +1°C / +2°C
This is a setting with which you can "offset" the temperature that the climate control is showing if for some reason it shows it incorrectly. For example, if it's showing 20°C and it thinks it has reached this desired temp, but it's actually 21°C in the car, you can set it to +1°C to make what it shows more realistic. It's in Celsius because that's how the car takes it. I guess we could always show something like -3.6°F / -1.8°F / NORMAL / +1.8°F / +3.6°F if we detect that the user's locale is US. But for now, I figured it's not a big deal to leave it in Celsius. Only 25% of our customers are in the US... and the other 75% want Celsius.
What if I were to call it "Climate control temperature display correction"?
Ambient temperature calibration
-3°C / -2°C / -1°C / *NORMAL* / +1°C / +2°C / +3°C
Same as above, but for outside air temperature display.
Maybe "Ambient temperature display correction"?
A/C evaporator control
*AUTOMATIC* / MANUAL
Yeah, this one is pretty bad. The evaporator is a part of the A/C system... and I think this setting effectively means whether you want the A/C to turn on automatically. But I don't know under what conditions. If you figure it out by trying it, let me know and I'll change the name to something more descriptive. This is one of those "vague" ones I was talking about. They come from badly translated Japanese, mostly...
A/C ECO mode
*ENABLED* / DISABLED
I never really understood this ECO mode. A bunch of the settings are related to that. How does a driver activate/deactivate this mode, and what does it mean to be in this mode? Apparently it affects the heated seats as well.
Auto-increase blower speed when front defroster is on
*YES* / NO
Beautifully clear.
Auto-turn on A/C when AUTO button pressed (if needed)
*YES* / NO
This one corresponds to "Auto A/C Mode" from the LPS PDF. How should I name it? Maybe something like "Use A/C if needed when climate control is in AUTO mode"? Or maybe an inverted version: "Disable A/C in AUTO mode"?
Deactivate front defroster when AUTO button pressed
*YES* / NO
Good
Also blow to feet in face mode
*YES* / NO
Good, but I'd like someone to try this out and tell me how exactly it affects the vents. My understanding is that if you set the middle vents on the dash to be on, this will also blow air through the footwell vents. And I would expect when this is set to "NO", the vents will be individually selectable, with no dependencies between them.
Auto-activate steering-wheel heater
YES / *NO*
When does the steering-wheel heater get activated when this is on? Is it when the climate control is set to blow warm air? Or does this setting make the steering-wheel heater activate when it detects that it's necessary (e.g. when cabin temp is low, regardless of climate control setting)?
Steering-wheel heater activation threshold
MUCH WARMER / WARMER / *NORMAL* / COLDER / MUCH COLDER
This is the temperature threshold at which the previous setting would make the steering-wheel heater activate automatically. To make it more sensitive (i.e. engage even when it's not that cold), use the "MUCH WARMER" value. I'm open to suggestions. Would it be clearer if the values were "MOST SENSITIVE / SENSITIVE / NORMAL / LESS SENSITIVE / LEAST SENSITIVE"?
Temperature dial calibration
-2°C / -1°C / *NORMAL* / +1°C / +2°C
This is a setting with which you can "offset" the temperature that the climate control is showing if for some reason it shows it incorrectly. For example, if it's showing 20°C and it thinks it has reached this desired temp, but it's actually 21°C in the car, you can set it to +1°C to make what it shows more realistic. It's in Celsius because that's how the car takes it. I guess we could always show something like -3.6°F / -1.8°F / NORMAL / +1.8°F / +3.6°F if we detect that the user's locale is US. But for now, I figured it's not a big deal to leave it in Celsius. Only 25% of our customers are in the US... and the other 75% want Celsius.
What if I were to call it "Climate control temperature display correction"?
Ambient temperature calibration
-3°C / -2°C / -1°C / *NORMAL* / +1°C / +2°C / +3°C
Same as above, but for outside air temperature display.
Maybe "Ambient temperature display correction"?
A/C evaporator control
*AUTOMATIC* / MANUAL
Yeah, this one is pretty bad. The evaporator is a part of the A/C system... and I think this setting effectively means whether you want the A/C to turn on automatically. But I don't know under what conditions. If you figure it out by trying it, let me know and I'll change the name to something more descriptive. This is one of those "vague" ones I was talking about. They come from badly translated Japanese, mostly...
A/C ECO mode
*ENABLED* / DISABLED
I never really understood this ECO mode. A bunch of the settings are related to that. How does a driver activate/deactivate this mode, and what does it mean to be in this mode? Apparently it affects the heated seats as well.
Auto-increase blower speed when front defroster is on
*YES* / NO
Beautifully clear.
Auto-turn on A/C when AUTO button pressed (if needed)
*YES* / NO
This one corresponds to "Auto A/C Mode" from the LPS PDF. How should I name it? Maybe something like "Use A/C if needed when climate control is in AUTO mode"? Or maybe an inverted version: "Disable A/C in AUTO mode"?
Deactivate front defroster when AUTO button pressed
*YES* / NO
Good
Also blow to feet in face mode
*YES* / NO
Good, but I'd like someone to try this out and tell me how exactly it affects the vents. My understanding is that if you set the middle vents on the dash to be on, this will also blow air through the footwell vents. And I would expect when this is set to "NO", the vents will be individually selectable, with no dependencies between them.
Auto-activate steering-wheel heater
YES / *NO*
When does the steering-wheel heater get activated when this is on? Is it when the climate control is set to blow warm air? Or does this setting make the steering-wheel heater activate when it detects that it's necessary (e.g. when cabin temp is low, regardless of climate control setting)?
Steering-wheel heater activation threshold
MUCH WARMER / WARMER / *NORMAL* / COLDER / MUCH COLDER
This is the temperature threshold at which the previous setting would make the steering-wheel heater activate automatically. To make it more sensitive (i.e. engage even when it's not that cold), use the "MUCH WARMER" value. I'm open to suggestions. Would it be clearer if the values were "MOST SENSITIVE / SENSITIVE / NORMAL / LESS SENSITIVE / LEAST SENSITIVE"?
06-19-14, 07:53 PM
#33
Ok, here are my replies:
Temperature dial calibration
-2°C / -1°C / *NORMAL* / +1°C / +2°C
This is a setting with which you can "offset" the temperature that the climate control is showing if for some reason it shows it incorrectly. For example, if it's showing 20°C and it thinks it has reached this desired temp, but it's actually 21°C in the car, you can set it to +1°C to make what it shows more realistic. It's in Celsius because that's how the car takes it. I guess we could always show something like -3.6°F / -1.8°F / NORMAL / +1.8°F / +3.6°F if we detect that the user's locale is US. But for now, I figured it's not a big deal to leave it in Celsius. Only 25% of our customers are in the US... and the other 75% want Celsius.
What if I were to call it "Climate control temperature display correction"?
Ambient temperature calibration
-3°C / -2°C / -1°C / *NORMAL* / +1°C / +2°C / +3°C
Same as above, but for outside air temperature display.
Maybe "Ambient temperature display correction"?
Temperature dial calibration
-2°C / -1°C / *NORMAL* / +1°C / +2°C
This is a setting with which you can "offset" the temperature that the climate control is showing if for some reason it shows it incorrectly. For example, if it's showing 20°C and it thinks it has reached this desired temp, but it's actually 21°C in the car, you can set it to +1°C to make what it shows more realistic. It's in Celsius because that's how the car takes it. I guess we could always show something like -3.6°F / -1.8°F / NORMAL / +1.8°F / +3.6°F if we detect that the user's locale is US. But for now, I figured it's not a big deal to leave it in Celsius. Only 25% of our customers are in the US... and the other 75% want Celsius.
What if I were to call it "Climate control temperature display correction"?
Ambient temperature calibration
-3°C / -2°C / -1°C / *NORMAL* / +1°C / +2°C / +3°C
Same as above, but for outside air temperature display.
Maybe "Ambient temperature display correction"?
A/C evaporator control
*AUTOMATIC* / MANUAL
Yeah, this one is pretty bad. The evaporator is a part of the A/C system... and I think this setting effectively means whether you want the A/C to turn on automatically. But I don't know under what conditions. If you figure it out by trying it, let me know and I'll change the name to something more descriptive. This is one of those "vague" ones I was talking about. They come from badly translated Japanese, mostly...
*AUTOMATIC* / MANUAL
Yeah, this one is pretty bad. The evaporator is a part of the A/C system... and I think this setting effectively means whether you want the A/C to turn on automatically. But I don't know under what conditions. If you figure it out by trying it, let me know and I'll change the name to something more descriptive. This is one of those "vague" ones I was talking about. They come from badly translated Japanese, mostly...
A/C ECO mode
*ENABLED* / DISABLED
I never really understood this ECO mode. A bunch of the settings are related to that. How does a driver activate/deactivate this mode, and what does it mean to be in this mode? Apparently it affects the heated seats as well.
*ENABLED* / DISABLED
I never really understood this ECO mode. A bunch of the settings are related to that. How does a driver activate/deactivate this mode, and what does it mean to be in this mode? Apparently it affects the heated seats as well.
The modes basically control transmission shift points, steering response, and suspension components in models equipped with the related active components. ECO, the least aggressive car setup in order to improve fuel efficiency, also places limits on AC compressor operation (LESS), max. fan speed (LOWER), and the seat heaters (NOT AS HOT?) from what you say.
Auto-increase blower speed when front defroster is on
*YES* / NO
Beautifully clear.
Auto-turn on A/C when AUTO button pressed (if needed)
*YES* / NO
This one corresponds to "Auto A/C Mode" from the LPS PDF. How should I name it? Maybe something like "Use A/C if needed when climate control is in AUTO mode"? Or maybe an inverted version: "Disable A/C in AUTO mode"?
*YES* / NO
Beautifully clear.
Auto-turn on A/C when AUTO button pressed (if needed)
*YES* / NO
This one corresponds to "Auto A/C Mode" from the LPS PDF. How should I name it? Maybe something like "Use A/C if needed when climate control is in AUTO mode"? Or maybe an inverted version: "Disable A/C in AUTO mode"?
Deactivate front defroster when AUTO button pressed
*YES* / NO
Good
Also blow to feet in face mode
*YES* / NO
Good, but I'd like someone to try this out and tell me how exactly it affects the vents. My understanding is that if you set the middle vents on the dash to be on, this will also blow air through the footwell vents. And I would expect when this is set to "NO", the vents will be individually selectable, with no dependencies between them.
*YES* / NO
Good
Also blow to feet in face mode
*YES* / NO
Good, but I'd like someone to try this out and tell me how exactly it affects the vents. My understanding is that if you set the middle vents on the dash to be on, this will also blow air through the footwell vents. And I would expect when this is set to "NO", the vents will be individually selectable, with no dependencies between them.
Auto-activate steering-wheel heater
YES / *NO*
When does the steering-wheel heater get activated when this is on? Is it when the climate control is set to blow warm air? Or does this setting make the steering-wheel heater activate when it detects that it's necessary (e.g. when cabin temp is low, regardless of climate control setting)?
Steering-wheel heater activation threshold
MUCH WARMER / WARMER / *NORMAL* / COLDER / MUCH COLDER
This is the temperature threshold at which the previous setting would make the steering-wheel heater activate automatically. To make it more sensitive (i.e. engage even when it's not that cold), use the "MUCH WARMER" value. I'm open to suggestions. Would it be clearer if the values were "MOST SENSITIVE / SENSITIVE / NORMAL / LESS SENSITIVE / LEAST SENSITIVE"?
YES / *NO*
When does the steering-wheel heater get activated when this is on? Is it when the climate control is set to blow warm air? Or does this setting make the steering-wheel heater activate when it detects that it's necessary (e.g. when cabin temp is low, regardless of climate control setting)?
Steering-wheel heater activation threshold
MUCH WARMER / WARMER / *NORMAL* / COLDER / MUCH COLDER
This is the temperature threshold at which the previous setting would make the steering-wheel heater activate automatically. To make it more sensitive (i.e. engage even when it's not that cold), use the "MUCH WARMER" value. I'm open to suggestions. Would it be clearer if the values were "MOST SENSITIVE / SENSITIVE / NORMAL / LESS SENSITIVE / LEAST SENSITIVE"?
Thank you very much for your well-considered and germane comments. I think we'll make rapid progress on Carista's handling of the Lexus models since most have such similar slates of settings. I really appreciate the opportunity to work directly with a software developer to improve the app.
Last edited by williakz; 06-19-14 at 07:58 PM.
06-20-14, 07:47 AM
#34
Thanks very much williakz. I'll come up with an updated list and let you know. If you're able to test the TBA stuff, please post your results here. I'd be glad to go over the other categories too, if you're up for it 
06-20-14, 04:22 PM
#36
Wow! That Evaporator Control setting sound interesting. Anyone have any theories?
Also, seems like there's some conflation of Evaporator Control and Compressor Control here in the forums and maybe in Carista as well.
Thanks for all, Joe.
Also, seems like there's some conflation of Evaporator Control and Compressor Control here in the forums and maybe in Carista as well.
Thanks for all, Joe.
06-23-14, 01:16 AM
#37
Evap control setting to Manual means:
---when vent selector is set on foot/front windshield defrost, or dedicated front windshield defrost, A/C compressor is ON to dehumidify air regardless of temperature setting, regardless if A/C button is activated in Climate control.
---when set to Auto means:
when vent selector is set on foot/front windshield defrost, or dedicated front windshield defrost, A/C compressor is at the vehicle's control, vehicle will cycle A/C on and off to save energy and to keep air somewhat dehumidified
Most if not all A/C equipped vehicles automatically sets A/C on when vent is set at foot/front windshield or full frontwindshield regardless of what the A/C light says the A/C is on or not, regardless of temperature.
If you don't believe me, select foot/front windshield or full front windshield on a hot day and turn the fan on and temp set low, try whatever you like to keep the A/C off, you will get cooled dehumidified air (yes in the winter time the A/C will be on even though you're blasting full heat, A/C does not mean cool air, it only extracts moisture from the air and cooling air as a side effect). Then change the only variable which is the vent position, to Face only and then feel the air get hotter.
---when vent selector is set on foot/front windshield defrost, or dedicated front windshield defrost, A/C compressor is ON to dehumidify air regardless of temperature setting, regardless if A/C button is activated in Climate control.
---when set to Auto means:
when vent selector is set on foot/front windshield defrost, or dedicated front windshield defrost, A/C compressor is at the vehicle's control, vehicle will cycle A/C on and off to save energy and to keep air somewhat dehumidified
Most if not all A/C equipped vehicles automatically sets A/C on when vent is set at foot/front windshield or full frontwindshield regardless of what the A/C light says the A/C is on or not, regardless of temperature.
If you don't believe me, select foot/front windshield or full front windshield on a hot day and turn the fan on and temp set low, try whatever you like to keep the A/C off, you will get cooled dehumidified air (yes in the winter time the A/C will be on even though you're blasting full heat, A/C does not mean cool air, it only extracts moisture from the air and cooling air as a side effect). Then change the only variable which is the vent position, to Face only and then feel the air get hotter.
Last edited by Persocon; 06-23-14 at 01:21 AM.
06-23-14, 08:00 AM
#38
Evap control setting to Manual means:
---when vent selector is set on foot/front windshield defrost, or dedicated front windshield defrost, A/C compressor is ON to dehumidify air regardless of temperature setting, regardless if A/C button is activated in Climate control.
---when set to Auto means:
when vent selector is set on foot/front windshield defrost, or dedicated front windshield defrost, A/C compressor is at the vehicle's control, vehicle will cycle A/C on and off to save energy and to keep air somewhat dehumidified
Thanks for the info. (And why wouldn't people believe you?)
06-23-14, 02:33 PM
#41
Thanks guys! I think I'll have to try that on my friend's RX. So maybe the evaporator control name should be "A/C in windshield defroster mode": MAX A/C / AUTOMATIC
About BMW coding - it is RIDICULOUS!!! We just started looking into it for Carista (and I also bought an older M3 today for personal use!) and it's just a nightmare. If you ever thought using Techstream on your Lexus was user-unfriendly, you should see BMW's system... Oh well, all the more opportunity for Carista to shine
About BMW coding - it is RIDICULOUS!!! We just started looking into it for Carista (and I also bought an older M3 today for personal use!) and it's just a nightmare. If you ever thought using Techstream on your Lexus was user-unfriendly, you should see BMW's system... Oh well, all the more opportunity for Carista to shine
07-25-14, 05:01 PM
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Thanks for the review! Btw, the setting to enable/disable the auto slide/tilt of the steering wheel is coming up in the next version of Carista (and will be a free update to existing users). Actually, I'll have a beta version available for you guys that includes that setting very soon - probably this week.
About the issue you ran into when changing settings: it's definitely NOT normal to have to back out of the app between changing settings (unless you're turning off the ignition or something). Please try it again and press the "Report problem" button when you see an error message. That will allow you to send me a log of what happened with the communication and I'll be able to diagnose it better (and make sure you include your email or at least forum name so I know who sent it). Thanks.
(and will be a free update to existing users). Actually, I'll have a beta version available for you guys that includes that setting very soon - probably this week.About the issue you ran into when changing settings: it's definitely NOT normal to have to back out of the app between changing settings (unless you're turning off the ignition or something). Please try it again and press the "Report problem" button when you see an error message. That will allow you to send me a log of what happened with the communication and I'll be able to diagnose it better (and make sure you include your email or at least forum name so I know who sent it). Thanks.
07-25-14, 05:03 PM
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07-25-14, 06:01 PM
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Well thank you for the fast reply! Your software is still pretty amazing!!! The ability to customize is pretty great! Thanks again!!
08-06-14, 08:40 PM
#45
Intermediate
Yeah, but you have to know German if using E-SYS!
Please pardon my ignorance, but can I buy and use this app on my android tablet if I buy the OBDII dongle/plug-in thingie? Does the dongle provide allow the tablet to speak to the port?
What would I have to buy to do this?
Thanks
Please pardon my ignorance, but can I buy and use this app on my android tablet if I buy the OBDII dongle/plug-in thingie? Does the dongle provide allow the tablet to speak to the port?
What would I have to buy to do this?
Thanks
Last edited by FreddyG; 08-06-14 at 08:44 PM.
