Go Back   Club Lexus Forums > Lexus Model Forums > LS Models > LS460, LS460L and LS600h
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

07 LS460 Upper & Lower control arm bushings replacement

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-22-14, 01:23 PM   #31
Devh
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Maryland
Posts: 408
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by roadfrog View Post
Well, the good news is that apparently it's not a big deal to repair now like it once was.

As someone who came from BMW 7 ownership where EVERYTHING was high drama and high dollar (including replacing a battery), this is all so trivial by comparison! LOL.

Sooooo good to be in a Lexus now. I don NOT miss my E65 AT ALL.
Since it's seems like wide spread problem I can see third party manufactures ready to tool replacement control arms with bushings in them.

Even the E60 BMW had known front bushing issues but that was the least of it's problems.
This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Club Lexus!
Devh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-14, 04:44 PM   #32
roadfrog
Lexus Test Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
roadfrog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 856
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devh View Post
Since it's seems like wide spread problem I can see third party manufactures ready to tool replacement control arms with bushings in them.

Even the E60 BMW had known front bushing issues but that was the least of it's problems.
Amen Devh!

Even the Brake Actuator issue I see within this forum, is trivial by comparison to the BMW issues I had.
roadfrog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-14, 08:28 PM   #33
vampiece
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 1
Default

Vvman, great post. I'm in sg as well and am having the same problem. Can you forward the contact to your workshop? Thanks!
vampiece is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-14, 04:35 PM   #34
randomwalk
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 556
Default

Vman,
where did you source your parts? Thanks.
randomwalk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-14, 06:56 PM   #35
Vvman
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 33
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by randomwalk View Post
Vman,
where did you source your parts? Thanks.
The parts are available on ebay, randomwalk.
Vvman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-14, 09:08 PM   #36
Tee
Moderator
Trader Score: (0)
 
Tee's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 3,472
Default

Vvman, great write up with pics and follow up of members questions!

I added this thread to the FAQ sticky, thank you for posting this informative contribution to the LS460 community.
__________________

2007 LS460L Noble Spinel Mica/Cashmere
2012 RX350 Matador Red Mica/Parchment
2007 LS460 Black Sapphire Pearl/Cashmere (R.I.P.) http://tinyurl.com/78c36hd
2004 LS430 Modern Luxury-Flint Mica/Ash (R.I.P.) http://tinyurl.com/7wvpux5
My Build, Pics & Vids Thread: http://tinyurl.com/ckybwbo
Tee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-14, 05:43 AM   #37
Vvman
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 33
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tee View Post
Vvman, great write up with pics and follow up of members questions!

I added this thread to the FAQ sticky, thank you for posting this informative contribution to the LS460 community.
Thank you Tee.

Its been my pleasure to share information on this forum. I do not wish to claim any credit as I have also benefitted a great deal from the vast amount of information here.

Just happy to be a part of this passionate CL community.

Cheers.
Vvman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-14, 08:52 AM   #38
zalymann
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: KL
Posts: 1
Default

Hi Vvman,

Am new to this post but was wondering how the ride is now?

I had some squeaking noise from my rear passenger wheel and the dealer said I had to change my rear upper and lower arm assembly because the bushings have worn out. He said that there were shops who could swap the bushings but it could affect the tire thread wear.

Do you know if this is a possibility?

Am interested to replace the bushings also but am worried about tyre wear as well.

Any suggestions?
zalymann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-14, 07:40 PM   #39
Vvman
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 33
Default

Hello zalymann

Welcome to CL.

It has been a few weeks since I have the bushings replaced, they are absolutely awesome, no noise, everything nice n tight, just the way they should be.

I assume you have a 07-12 LS460. I have 104k km on the car and my rear control arm bushings are just fine, these are more durable than the ones on the front.

Unfortunately there is no known bushing replacement/fix for the rear, other than swapping out the entire arms AFAIK. All front control arm bushings are available on ebay but I have yet come across any for the rear.

I am not questioning the professionalism of your dealer but I just don't see how putting new good condition bushings/or arms can adversely affect tire wear?? If that is true, wouldn't all cars fresh from the factory suffer from excessive tire wear?

I do know for a fact that if you have free play due to loose suspension parts, (worn bushings or otherwise) that would throw your alignment out of specs, toe angles being the biggest culprit and consequently induce uneven and excessive tire wear.

Get the rear bushings replaced (whole arms if necessary), do a wheel alignment after that, your tires will be fine.

Good luck.

Last edited by Vvman; 02-09-14 at 05:47 PM..
Vvman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-14, 12:04 PM   #40
randomwalk
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 556
Default

Vvman,

I saw on eBay they sell both upper and lower control arms with the new bushing. However, looking at the pictures, and comparing to the lower bushing kits, the kits seems to have more bushings than on the lower control arm...where does the rest of the lower control arm bushings in the kit go?

Here is the front lower bushing kit:

Click the image to open in full size.

Here is the whole front lower control arm:

Click the image to open in full size.

So looking at the lower front control arm above, only one is used/mounted on the lower control arm. Where do the other two go? (four left in the 1st picture -- two on each side)

Last edited by randomwalk; 02-15-14 at 12:08 PM..
randomwalk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-14, 12:34 PM   #41
randomwalk
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 556
Default

I see it now...the lower control arms actually, there are four arms (two black and two silver)...
randomwalk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-14, 06:33 PM   #42
robert1408
Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Tx
Posts: 180
Default

Looks to me like the top pair are the lateral (main) lower control arm, the middle pair for the shock/spring unit lower mount in that main arm and the bottom pair for the forward (compliance) lower arm.
__________________


I want to die peacefully in my sleep like Grandpa did, not screaming like the people in his carů 2007 LS 460 swb. Mercury metallic, grey interior. Bone stock, oe 18" wheels,ML radio, nav
robert1408 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-14, 10:26 PM   #43
Vvman
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 33
Default

Randomwalk

There are 2 lower arms per side on our rides, yes, the black pairs as shown in your 2nd pic and another silver coloured pairs.

The middle pairs in your 1st pic (not to scale, they are actually much larger than the other 2 pairs) will fit into the black colored arms.

And the small bushings on left side of the silver control arms (pic below) is where the shock absorbers actually sits.
Attached Images
 

Last edited by Vvman; 02-15-14 at 10:34 PM..
Vvman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-14, 05:55 AM   #44
randomwalk
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 556
Default

Thanks vvman

I believe the other side (back) of front wheel has another set of the silver arm with bushings ?
Also there are more bushings on the rear wheel too (didn't check)
randomwalk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-14, 07:15 AM   #45
Vvman
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 33
Default

Hi Randomwalk

I have attached a photo of the arms/linkages of the right front wheel before the bushings replacement. Notice the tear on the bushings in red circle.

The arm that is highlighted here in yellow (behind the silver lower control arm that runs laterally) is actually the anti-roll bar. Yes, the arb has a bushing on each side and they look quite durable. The arb link which connects the arb to the lower control arm does not have a bushing though.

There are quite a number of bushings at the rear, and unfortunately, as I have mentioned earlier, there is no known replacement bushings available on the market today. Guess will have to swap the entire arm if something breaks there.
Attached Images
 

Last edited by Vvman; 02-16-14 at 07:24 AM..
Vvman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-14, 07:15 AM
 
 
 
 
Reply

Tags
2007, 460, arm, arms, armstrong, bushing, bushings, control, distributors, feedback, forum, lexus, lower, ls, ls460, rear, replacement

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
NOVEL Headers. RichieISF IS F 85 10-12-13 12:06 PM
Tanabe df210 lowering sport springs Vishuz GS - Second Generation 25 12-06-11 12:15 PM
Best coilovers ??? connorsc Suspension and Brakes 37 10-22-10 10:19 AM
MO GS300 black chrome emblems LexCafe 2Gen GS430 / 400/ 300 Classifieds (98-05) 0 09-19-10 08:47 PM
GS350, CLS55 lil cousin... GMTLgs350 GS - Third Generation 32 03-24-08 07:21 PM

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:23 PM.

Join ClubLexus
Advertising


Copyright © 2000-2008 Internet Brands, Inc. All Rights Reserved
Privacy Policy | Disclaimer | Terms of Use | JOBS


Get all contact info