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Would you consider a LWB version of the LS in F SPORT trim?

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Old 08-14-12, 04:55 PM
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Yes. Yes I would

Lexus would reallllly be missing out if they didn't.
Old 08-14-12, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GS3Tek
Yes. Yes I would

Lexus would reallllly be missing out if they didn't.
Yes, all the LWB AMG S, M-Sport 7, S8, XJ SuperSport clearly proved people want that.
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Originally Posted by BNR34
If I remember right, the LWB adds 200 lbs. But who cares about weight in a car like this? The main benefit of SWB in the F-Sport is nimbler handling.

That is the main point of these luxury barges.
actually, only a mere 80-90lb. 4244lb vs 4332lb. so weight is negligible when comparing swb vs lwb.

Originally Posted by BNR34
Not so much the weight, but the 5" shorter wheelbase does make a difference in how the car turn.
yes, lwb is about 1ft larger in turning circle (36.1 vs 37.4).

but then again, if someone tries to argue lwb is "worse" on handling than swb is like trying to argue a car 0-60 is 0.2sec faster than another. paper spec race is meaningless

in reality? lwb and swb they both handle about the same -- like boat, hehe...

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Yes, all the LWB AMG S, M-Sport 7, S8, XJ SuperSport clearly proved people want that.
yup, we have all been saying that. but some will argue on the b7. but then again, it's not from bmw
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Originally Posted by rominl
actually, only a mere 80-90lb. 4244lb vs 4332lb. so weight is negligible when comparing swb vs lwb.
Damn you got me again, my memory failed me again, it is the AWD that adds 350 lbs, the LWB is only 90 lbs. I am too lazy to look these stuff up now, just going with my bad memory

Originally Posted by rominl
yes, lwb is about 1ft larger in turning circle (36.1 vs 37.4).

but then again, if someone tries to argue lwb is "worse" on handling than swb is like trying to argue a car 0-60 is 0.2sec faster than another. paper spec race is meaningless

in reality? lwb and swb they both handle about the same -- like boat, hehe...
I guess so. I just think you can kind of feels the shorter wheelbase.

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yup, we have all been saying that. but some will argue on the b7. but then again, it's not from bmw
The B7 is available in both SWB and LWB. I think it might be a recent thing though, I think initially is SWB only. Ha, I got this one
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Originally Posted by BNR34
Damn you got me again, my memory failed me again, it is the AWD that adds 350 lbs, the LWB is only 90 lbs. I am too lazy to look these stuff up now, just going with my bad memory



I guess so. I just think you can kind of feels the shorter wheelbase.



The B7 is available in both SWB and LWB. I think it might be a recent thing though, I think initially is SWB only. Ha, I got this one
you can feel the difference between swb and lwb for sure, but nothing to make you crash the lwb more likely

hahaha, i didn't say b7 doesn't come in lwb. i was just saying some people would argue that (brought up before), just never said anything

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/3406252-post32.html

somehow very memorable of that post. but yes, it's a thing in the past, b7 is in every form now

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...ight=%2Ab7+swb

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Old 08-17-12, 05:41 AM
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LWB is the only way to go for me.
Old 08-17-12, 03:22 PM
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The long wheelbase is longer from the B pillar to the rear bumper and the main advantage is rear seat legroom. In general a longer wheelbase has a smoother ride by extending the distance between pavement changes. If you use the rear seat a lot then you are a candidate for the LWB. You do forfeit a bit of trunk volume in the LWB. The front seat space is the same in both versions. The long wheelbase models usually have more options and of course cost more too.

The strangest anomaly is the LS600hL with the Executive package. If the rear seat passenger uses the shiatsu massage while reclined the front seat must move forward eliminating it as a seat position. Then you are left with a three passenger configuration including the driver due to the massive rear center console. You also get the smallest trunk capacity of the LS series. In 2013 the hybrid battery was moved lower and trunk capacity is improved....I must say that the driver's seat is heaven on the 600hL and what is behind me is of no concern....

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Originally Posted by Rockville
The long wheelbase is longer from the B pillar to the rear bumper and the main advantage is rear seat legroom. In general a longer wheelbase has a smoother ride by extending the distance between pavement changes. If you use the rear seat a lot then you are a candidate for the LWB. You do forfeit a bit of trunk volume in the LWB. The front seat space is the same in both versions. The long wheelbase models usually have more options and of course cost more too.

The strangest anomaly is the LS600hL with the Executive package. If the rear seat passenger uses the shiatsu massage while reclined the front seat must move forward eliminating it as a seat position. Then you are left with a three passenger configuration including the driver due to the massive rear center console. You also get the smallest trunk capacity of the LS series. In 2013 the hybrid battery was moved lower and trunk capacity is improved....I must say that the driver's seat is heaven on the 600hL and what is behind me is of no concern....

Rock
the trunk size has to do with the packages i believe. at least from 07-09, if you get the base or touring ls460l, the trunk size is the same as the swb ls460. all 5 inches go to the rear cabin space. you lose trunk space when you go with rear seats upgrade package or the exec seating package, where they have a full AC compressor unit behind the rear seats thus eating up the trunk space
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Originally Posted by rominl
the trunk size has to do with the packages i believe. at least from 07-09, if you get the base or touring ls460l, the trunk size is the same as the swb ls460. all 5 inches go to the rear cabin space. you lose trunk space when you go with rear seats upgrade package or the exec seating package, where they have a full AC compressor unit behind the rear seats thus eating up the trunk space
That's right because mine has the 4zone ac and the rear upgrade pkg, and the trunk is smaller than my friend swb.
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Isn't there a 600hL Fsport?
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Originally Posted by LXurious
Isn't there a 600hL Fsport?
i guess it might not be the case for US spec cars?
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