Official 2013 Lexus LS460/460L/600hL & F-Sport thread
08-06-12, 12:47 AM
#407
Thanks for the helpful review. Your cup comment has me really worried now because that's just one of those things that I use 10x in one drive to work -- more than the A/C or the radio. It better not be some small cup holder that allows only the smallest glasses to work without messing with the radio controls. OY.
I don't get the big hype about how it looks "just like a GS." Unless one drives an LS AND a GS alll the time, I don't think it makes one bit of difference if the GS is similar inside. I personally haven't had a GS in over 10 years so I would care less if my LS "matches" other people's GSs. I have always found the LS to have a much more refined look and feel in a minor but important way compared to the smaller Lexuses, so I am betting this will be the case with the new LS's interior also.
I agree -- I hope it's quiet! And as powerful as my current LS. And that joystick thingy has me a little freaked out. Last time I got to play with one of those was in a BMW 7 series last year and it did NOT work well... I hope Lexus kept it simple and intuitive.
I don't get the big hype about how it looks "just like a GS." Unless one drives an LS AND a GS alll the time, I don't think it makes one bit of difference if the GS is similar inside. I personally haven't had a GS in over 10 years so I would care less if my LS "matches" other people's GSs. I have always found the LS to have a much more refined look and feel in a minor but important way compared to the smaller Lexuses, so I am betting this will be the case with the new LS's interior also.
I agree -- I hope it's quiet! And as powerful as my current LS. And that joystick thingy has me a little freaked out. Last time I got to play with one of those was in a BMW 7 series last year and it did NOT work well... I hope Lexus kept it simple and intuitive.
08-06-12, 10:45 AM
#408
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did i read no hud for u.s. '13 ls? if so, why the hell not? 
08-06-12, 10:56 AM
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I think there is no space behind the instrument panel to fit the HUD projection unit. Also, if I am not mistaken the windshield optics have to be changed for a clear picture in the area where the info is projected.
The windshield is a carry over from last model I think.
We will have to wait for the next proper model change and then we will have it in colour!
The windshield is a carry over from last model I think.
We will have to wait for the next proper model change and then we will have it in colour!
08-06-12, 11:45 AM
#411
I stopped looking at this after I seen the pics and some specs, it is just too long to read.
I just want to say one thing, ACTIVE SWAY BAR.................HOLY MOLY THAT IS HUGE!!!!
Finally one feature that truely stand out and make a HUGE differences in how the car drive, this feature is crazy nice from all the ones that I felt from other car maker, no body roll and still retain full comfort
I hope it doesn't get discontinue like on the initial GS450h, the initial few batches of the GSh had the active sway, then got discontinued because it was too pricy and no body wanted it I think. It was a $4k option if I remember right.
I just want to say one thing, ACTIVE SWAY BAR.................HOLY MOLY THAT IS HUGE!!!!
Finally one feature that truely stand out and make a HUGE differences in how the car drive, this feature is crazy nice from all the ones that I felt from other car maker, no body roll and still retain full comfort
I hope it doesn't get discontinue like on the initial GS450h, the initial few batches of the GSh had the active sway, then got discontinued because it was too pricy and no body wanted it I think. It was a $4k option if I remember right.
08-06-12, 12:15 PM
#412
I stopped looking at this after I seen the pics and some specs, it is just too long to read.
I just want to say one thing, ACTIVE SWAY BAR.................HOLY MOLY THAT IS HUGE!!!!
Finally one feature that truely stand out and make a HUGE differences in how the car drive, this feature is crazy nice from all the ones that I felt from other car maker, no body roll and still retain full comfort
I hope it doesn't get discontinue like on the initial GS450h, the initial few batches of the GSh had the active sway, then got discontinued because it was too pricy and no body wanted it I think. It was a $4k option if I remember right.
I just want to say one thing, ACTIVE SWAY BAR.................HOLY MOLY THAT IS HUGE!!!!
Finally one feature that truely stand out and make a HUGE differences in how the car drive, this feature is crazy nice from all the ones that I felt from other car maker, no body roll and still retain full comfort
I hope it doesn't get discontinue like on the initial GS450h, the initial few batches of the GSh had the active sway, then got discontinued because it was too pricy and no body wanted it I think. It was a $4k option if I remember right.
08-06-12, 12:33 PM
#413
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In other countries territories like in Europe or Japan or even in Asian countries (like Philippines), the F-sport contains the entire LDH package and comes with it as standard (so everything from suspension, VGRS, DRS, etc. is included).
08-06-12, 12:53 PM
#414
Most people won't get it, face it, most Lexus owners just want a smooth and quiet ride, period. I hope they just make it standard, at least on the F-Sport.
I love DRS too, I had a car with DRS, I loved it.
08-06-12, 12:57 PM
#415
I know the rest of the world love all that stuff, so they get it all.
08-06-12, 01:10 PM
#416
and also those are not in the specs either.
08-06-12, 01:23 PM
#417
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I think there is no space behind the instrument panel to fit the HUD projection unit. Also, if I am not mistaken the windshield optics have to be changed for a clear picture in the area where the info is projected.
The windshield is a carry over from last model I think.
We will have to wait for the next proper model change and then we will have it in colour!
The windshield is a carry over from last model I think.
We will have to wait for the next proper model change and then we will have it in colour!
08-06-12, 01:56 PM
#418
Oh yes I love active sway bar, it feels like a huge racing sway bar in the turns and total comfort all the other times!!
Most people won't get it, face it, most Lexus owners just want a smooth and quiet ride, period. I hope they just make it standard, at least on the F-Sport.
I love DRS too, I had a car with DRS, I loved it.
Most people won't get it, face it, most Lexus owners just want a smooth and quiet ride, period. I hope they just make it standard, at least on the F-Sport.
I love DRS too, I had a car with DRS, I loved it.
the HUD system itself of course is not anything crazy (given it's been around since 90s), but when i said ecu i meant to say if they have to changed / upgrade to a whole different ecu, then it might not be as cost effective anymore.
the ls460 has been around since 2007, i don't think at that time any lexus passenger cars had HUD. even in this facelift, although interior changed, but the drive train is still the same so the main ecu is likely the same. if that's required to be changed in order to support HUD, that could explain why it's still missing. RX HUD started in 2010 i think? GS started 2013, so those probably have a newer ecu
the optic point that Car Nut brought up can be very valid too, i don't know enough on that to comment, always thought it's matter of reflection. given the ls is much bigger than gs and rx, i am not sure if space can remotely be a problem though
08-06-12, 02:11 PM
#419
probably combination of technical and practical for the HUD... i doubt it is windshield since thats not so hard to adapt (it gets some special kind of treatment against the glare)... but they might have needed it positioned differently, or the instrument panel, or both... who knows, it is not there in any case.
08-06-12, 02:14 PM
#420
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maybe i was mixing up with mercedes and lexus lx 'night vision'...
